Wow. Thanks for that info. I had never really heard much about him as a great until this draft. Then coming on here and reading how he was better then Beckenbauer in 72 really caught my attention.
Already sent most of my stuff yesterday, will finish it in a few hours and then we can start whenever you and Pat are fine with it.
Yes, he is considered as their greatest playmaker ever and also as one of their best players of all time. In fact even @Balu had him in his all time Geman XI. Netzer was the star of the Gladbach side which is considered one of the greatest German club sides ever and a side that went toe to toe with Beckenbauer, Maier, Breitner & Müller's Bayern, winning two Bundesliga titles. He was also the best player in the Germany 1972 side (considered to be Germany's greatest side ever, even when taking the '74 WC winning team into consideration) and was the standout player of the Euro 1972. Unfortunately he doesn't get the credit he deserves as he was just rather a wee bit unlucky in the WCs and European Cups.
He was injured for the 1970 WC and he left Gladbach after falling out with manager Weisweiler in 1973. He didn't have a great debut season at Real (who quite frankly put, used him wrongly) and he also pissed off Schon, the German manager, since Schon had said every player must be playing in Bundesliga to start in the 1974 WC team. He also directly didn't inform Schon of the decision to move to Real and this angered him even further apparently. Schon also preferred the more industrious Overath but if circumstances had been good for Netzer (no injuries or falling out with Gladbach manager and had stayed with Gladbach), I honestly think Netzer would have started the 1974 WC after that blistering 1972 Euros that he had. It's fair to say that the team would have probably performed better with him in it but squabbles over bonuses pay-out, tough training camps etc played their part in Germany's initial poor performances too.
In the European Cup, he gave plenty of brilliant displays, tearing apart Facchetti's Inter Milan and playing a blinder against Beckenbauer's Bayern for Real in the 1975 semi-final, 2nd leg. However, the first match unfortunately scrapped due to a can being thrown onto the pitch and in the second instance Müller's deadliness just gave Bayern the win out of nowhere (it was a fairly even match which was decided by Müller in brutal fashion). Also played a blinder in the UEFA Cup final 1973 but they just lost out to Liverpool after a tactical blunder by the manager in the first leg. All in all, he genuinely showed his pedigree on the biggest stages but just was a bit unlucky not to win an European Cup or to be part of the 1974 WC winning team.
Anyway judge him for yourself and if possible try to watch the video above or better yet, full games of him playing for Germany 1972. It was nothing short of sensational. Always thought Balu was exaggerating a bit when he said that team was one of the most entertaining and free flowing sides in history but he really was spot on with that. It's a crying shame that there isn't much available of Netzer's Gladbach though, who by all accounts were even more stunning to watch.
40s Retro Football Fantasy Draft | Finished
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Why would you think that? I very rarely do that
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Reinforcement Details
Completed Games
Aldo 7-7 mazhar13 (Aldo wins on penalties)
Tuppet 15-4 Gol123
Gio/Theon 10-7 ctp
Balu 8-10 Invictus
harms 7-1 RedTiger
Joga Bonito 8-8 Skizzo/Pat_Mustard (Joga wins on penalties)
Chesterlestreet 10-3 crappycraperson
NM/EAP 11-3 Marty1968
Current Reinforcement Pool
RedTiger 1. Beckenbauer 2. Oblak 3. Maier 4. Fischer 5. McNeill 6. Dobiaš 7. Tony Dunne 8. Sparwasser 9. Mifflin 10. McFarland 11. van der Kuijlen 12. Caju
Gol123 1. Van Hanegem 2. Overath 3. Johnstone 4. Hulshoff 5. Kindvall 6. Rubén Marcos 7. Matosas 8. Skoblar 9. Pavoni 10. Ubiña 11. Tomaszewski 12. Nordqvist
Balu 1. G. Müller 2. Vogts 3. Rensenbrink 4. Dobrin 5. Benetti 6. Cuccureddu 7. Holcer 8. Jennings 9. Dinu 10. Magnusson 11. Frosio 12. Cullmans
ctp 1. Rivelino 2. Marzolini 3. Jansen 4. Heynckes 5. Höttges 6. Mészöly 7. Fichtel 8. Más 9. Iribar 10. Libuda 11. Velázquez 12. Toshack
mazhar13 1. Jairzinho 2. Zoff 3. B Dietz 4. Giles 5. Buchan 6. Simões 7. Hurst 8. Hunter 9. Lodetti 10. Hansen 11. Jensen 12. Quine
Skizzo/Pat_Mustard 1. Cruyff 2. Keizer 3. Olsen 4. Gemmell 5. Murdoch 6. Jardine 7. Rexach 8. Hellström 9. Flohe 10. Kolotov 11. Morini 12. Acimovic
Marty1968 1. Gerson 2. Carlos Alberto 3. Rosato 4. Schwarzenbeck 5. Cubilla 6. Grabowski 7. Everaldo 8. Panenka 9. Croy 10. Capello 11. Geels 12. Coutinho
crappycraperson 1. Moore 2. Tostão 3. Bene 4. Van Moer 5. Khurtsilava 6. Bell 7. Urbanczyk 8. Shilton 9. Domenghini 10. Asensi 11. Carrascosa 12. Bertini
All players unpicked in the initial draft are also available for reinforcements.
Current Reinforcement Drafting Order
Joga Bonito
Tuppet
harms
NM/EAP
Gio/Theon
Invictus
Chesterlestreet
Aldo
Aldo 7-7 mazhar13 (Aldo wins on penalties)
Tuppet 15-4 Gol123
Gio/Theon 10-7 ctp
Balu 8-10 Invictus
harms 7-1 RedTiger
Joga Bonito 8-8 Skizzo/Pat_Mustard (Joga wins on penalties)
Chesterlestreet 10-3 crappycraperson
NM/EAP 11-3 Marty1968
Current Reinforcement Pool
RedTiger 1. Beckenbauer 2. Oblak 3. Maier 4. Fischer 5. McNeill 6. Dobiaš 7. Tony Dunne 8. Sparwasser 9. Mifflin 10. McFarland 11. van der Kuijlen 12. Caju
Gol123 1. Van Hanegem 2. Overath 3. Johnstone 4. Hulshoff 5. Kindvall 6. Rubén Marcos 7. Matosas 8. Skoblar 9. Pavoni 10. Ubiña 11. Tomaszewski 12. Nordqvist
Balu 1. G. Müller 2. Vogts 3. Rensenbrink 4. Dobrin 5. Benetti 6. Cuccureddu 7. Holcer 8. Jennings 9. Dinu 10. Magnusson 11. Frosio 12. Cullmans
ctp 1. Rivelino 2. Marzolini 3. Jansen 4. Heynckes 5. Höttges 6. Mészöly 7. Fichtel 8. Más 9. Iribar 10. Libuda 11. Velázquez 12. Toshack
mazhar13 1. Jairzinho 2. Zoff 3. B Dietz 4. Giles 5. Buchan 6. Simões 7. Hurst 8. Hunter 9. Lodetti 10. Hansen 11. Jensen 12. Quine
Skizzo/Pat_Mustard 1. Cruyff 2. Keizer 3. Olsen 4. Gemmell 5. Murdoch 6. Jardine 7. Rexach 8. Hellström 9. Flohe 10. Kolotov 11. Morini 12. Acimovic
Marty1968 1. Gerson 2. Carlos Alberto 3. Rosato 4. Schwarzenbeck 5. Cubilla 6. Grabowski 7. Everaldo 8. Panenka 9. Croy 10. Capello 11. Geels 12. Coutinho
crappycraperson 1. Moore 2. Tostão 3. Bene 4. Van Moer 5. Khurtsilava 6. Bell 7. Urbanczyk 8. Shilton 9. Domenghini 10. Asensi 11. Carrascosa 12. Bertini
All players unpicked in the initial draft are also available for reinforcements.
Current Reinforcement Drafting Order
Joga Bonito
Tuppet
harms
NM/EAP
Gio/Theon
Invictus
Chesterlestreet
Aldo
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I recall you saying they are amongst the top 5 most exciting International teams of all time (or something along those lines) which I thought might have been a bit of an exaggeration at that time. I thought they would have been exciting to a certain extent and total football-esque but I honestly wasn't expecting such fluidity and ability on the ball. Watching Beckenbauer & Netzer take the piss out of the opposition was hilarious to watch and the opposition just didn't know what to do with themWhy would you think that? I very rarely do that
. That one-touch footie at 24.06 in the video I uploaded was just .
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Cheers.I get that.Its better to add player who is work alcoholic and in that category Neeseken,Breitner and Tardelli would great.
work alcoholic?
Typo, he meant workaholic.work alcoholic?
Aye, industrious but talented players would be best alongside him.
Don't hate the Viagra, man.
That said, with people quoting Bataille (not much of a philosopher in a draft context - a shabby provocateur more than anything, certainly not final worthy), I plan on basing my thesis on Kant. Should've been Hume, arguably, given my Bremnerism - but Hume is just too much of a bloody idiot for my purposes. A charlatan, as Coleridge rightly said.
Also, Pelé is the best player in the draft. He really is. Actually. So feck you.
I'll keep updating the thread marked post about reinforcements as the matches are completed.
It's quite tough for me to vote in most of these matches. Most of the matches have been fairly even so far with very, very few clear winners around. This is quite a good tournament so far.
Player profiles:
(Updated as we go along)
Ray Clemence
Five league titles, two FA Cups, three times winner of the European Cup, three times winner of the UEFA Cup, declared the best goal keeper...ever by Total Football magazine. The last part is ridiculous, of course, but it is nevertheless interesting and an indication of how highly many rate Clemence.
Played with Hughes and Smith at Liverpool, winning the '77 EC with both players.
Terry Cooper
Generally regarded as the best left back in England in the late 1960s/early 1970s and an important part of Revie's famous Leeds vintage of that era. An expert at overlapping and inter-playing with his winger, Cooper had an excellent cross on him. Won the league and the FA Cup with Leeds, plus the UEFA Cup twice – and would have won more too if his career hadn't slowed down due to a nasty injury.
Jan Pivarnik
Winner of Euro '76 with Czechoslovakia, Pivarnik was an offensive, aggressive fullback who won the league twice with Slovan Bratislava. Like many of the era, he didn't play outside his domestic league until he was well past his prime. Pivarnik was named Czech footballer of the year in 1974 and two years later he made the team of the tournament in Euro '76, alongside Beckenbauer and Krol.
Emlyn Hughes:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emlyn_Hughes
Tommy Smith:
Note on Hughes and Smith: For me an added benefit of picking this legendary Liverpool pair is their versatility. Both players can be fielded both as centre halves and as fullbacks (and even at a push further up the pitch in some sort of DM role).
Billy Bremner:
Volodymyr Muntyan
A player who mastered multiple midfield roles (central, attacking, even defensive and wide – or wide-ish at least, in Lobanovsky's version of the 4-4-2) and who was characterized both by his tenacity and his technical proficiency. An allrounder who proved himself as such at the highest level with both the USSR national team and Dynamo Kyiv (both under Maslov and Lovanovsky). He won seven league titles and the Cup Winner's Cup with DK, while also making deep runs in the European Cup proper, including a narrow S-F exit to M'Gladbach in '77 (the year a trio of his team mates here won it for Liverpool).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volodymyr_Muntyan#Honours
Mario Corso
Considered one of the finest Italian wingers ever, most famous for his left peg, il piede sinistro de Dio, with which he frequently both shot and passed the ball in the “dead leaf” style perhaps most immediately associated with Didi. Corso, however, had more strings to play on: A fast, technically superb and intelligent player, he was a crucial component in Helenio Herrera's famous (infamous, some would say) Inter side, with which Corso won multiple trophies, two European Cups on the trot (and two successive wins against Independiente in the following Intercontinental Cups) most notably. His career for Italy was less impressive on the face of things, but most would agree that this state of affairs wasn't down to footballing reasons as much as personal differences (and preferences).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mario_Corso#International
(I won't rely on him for goals primarily, but he was, as one might imagine, a great free kick taker).
Peter Lorimer
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Lorimer
Jimmy Greaves
124 goals in 157 games for Chelsea.
220 goals in 321 games for Spurs.
44 goals in 57 games for England (including a record six hat-tricks).
More goals than any other player in the history of the English top-flight.
But this is my favourite, actually. Greaves' brief spell in Milan was for various reasons a fiasco. He only played a dozen times for AC. But he bloody well managed to score nine goals in that dozen.
(A selection of his goals).
Mike England
Edson...something or other, some Brazilian bloke.
(Updated as we go along)
Ray Clemence
Five league titles, two FA Cups, three times winner of the European Cup, three times winner of the UEFA Cup, declared the best goal keeper...ever by Total Football magazine. The last part is ridiculous, of course, but it is nevertheless interesting and an indication of how highly many rate Clemence.
Played with Hughes and Smith at Liverpool, winning the '77 EC with both players.
Terry Cooper
Generally regarded as the best left back in England in the late 1960s/early 1970s and an important part of Revie's famous Leeds vintage of that era. An expert at overlapping and inter-playing with his winger, Cooper had an excellent cross on him. Won the league and the FA Cup with Leeds, plus the UEFA Cup twice – and would have won more too if his career hadn't slowed down due to a nasty injury.
Jan Pivarnik
Winner of Euro '76 with Czechoslovakia, Pivarnik was an offensive, aggressive fullback who won the league twice with Slovan Bratislava. Like many of the era, he didn't play outside his domestic league until he was well past his prime. Pivarnik was named Czech footballer of the year in 1974 and two years later he made the team of the tournament in Euro '76, alongside Beckenbauer and Krol.
Emlyn Hughes:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emlyn_Hughes
Tommy Smith:
http://www.lfchistory.net/Players/Player/Profile/413
Note on Hughes and Smith: For me an added benefit of picking this legendary Liverpool pair is their versatility. Both players can be fielded both as centre halves and as fullbacks (and even at a push further up the pitch in some sort of DM role).
Billy Bremner:
Volodymyr Muntyan
A player who mastered multiple midfield roles (central, attacking, even defensive and wide – or wide-ish at least, in Lobanovsky's version of the 4-4-2) and who was characterized both by his tenacity and his technical proficiency. An allrounder who proved himself as such at the highest level with both the USSR national team and Dynamo Kyiv (both under Maslov and Lovanovsky). He won seven league titles and the Cup Winner's Cup with DK, while also making deep runs in the European Cup proper, including a narrow S-F exit to M'Gladbach in '77 (the year a trio of his team mates here won it for Liverpool).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volodymyr_Muntyan#Honours
Mario Corso
Considered one of the finest Italian wingers ever, most famous for his left peg, il piede sinistro de Dio, with which he frequently both shot and passed the ball in the “dead leaf” style perhaps most immediately associated with Didi. Corso, however, had more strings to play on: A fast, technically superb and intelligent player, he was a crucial component in Helenio Herrera's famous (infamous, some would say) Inter side, with which Corso won multiple trophies, two European Cups on the trot (and two successive wins against Independiente in the following Intercontinental Cups) most notably. His career for Italy was less impressive on the face of things, but most would agree that this state of affairs wasn't down to footballing reasons as much as personal differences (and preferences).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mario_Corso#International
(I won't rely on him for goals primarily, but he was, as one might imagine, a great free kick taker).
Peter Lorimer
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Lorimer
Jimmy Greaves
124 goals in 157 games for Chelsea.
220 goals in 321 games for Spurs.
44 goals in 57 games for England (including a record six hat-tricks).
More goals than any other player in the history of the English top-flight.
But this is my favourite, actually. Greaves' brief spell in Milan was for various reasons a fiasco. He only played a dozen times for AC. But he bloody well managed to score nine goals in that dozen.
(A selection of his goals).
Mike England
Edson...something or other, some Brazilian bloke.
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@Aldo @Marty1968
I have my profiles done.. will need till tomorrow morning EST to do my tactics as it is 1 am here. sorry for the delay
I have my profiles done.. will need till tomorrow morning EST to do my tactics as it is 1 am here. sorry for the delay
No problem, have sent mine. Ready whenever.
@Aldo
Stuff sent, just start whenever. I can't promise to be extremely active (and the write-up had to be done in a jiffy here), due to other commitments, but I will try to participate as much as I can.
Stuff sent, just start whenever. I can't promise to be extremely active (and the write-up had to be done in a jiffy here), due to other commitments, but I will try to participate as much as I can.
Waiting for crappy and NM/eap
10 mins
what's up with crappy's game?
We need to take responsibility to generate interest. There aren't many experts in 1960s and 1970s football not taking part.
It's been a sheer piss-take so far - and I'll gladly take some of the blame, but I've been working pretty much constantly, and I can't sit down and engage in fantasy football into the night now (a man has to eat and sleep).
So, there it is - bloody shame, but sometimes the timing just can't be helped. Hopefully there will be some discussion tomorrow (poll doesn't close until four-ish or so in the afternoon, I think.
So, there it is - bloody shame, but sometimes the timing just can't be helped. Hopefully there will be some discussion tomorrow (poll doesn't close until four-ish or so in the afternoon, I think.
Sometimes you have to just spam and post yourself. Obviously if you don't have time, then there's not much you can do.
I spent periods of time posting to myself in the match thread, then tagged 15 or so people to try and have them pop in and drum up some discussion. All for nought in the end, mind
Then again, we did have twice as many pages as the next closest match.
I spent periods of time posting to myself in the match thread, then tagged 15 or so people to try and have them pop in and drum up some discussion. All for nought in the end, mind
Then again, we did have twice as many pages as the next closest match.
I just missed the game, I thought that it wasn't up yet
Middle of draft order again?
I can only hope that @Tuppet will make the best choice for his team.
Updated the reinforcements details with the finalised order and pool.
@Tuppet can now proceed with the first pick.
Standard rules - 8 hours for a pick. 2 rounds of drafting.
@Tuppet can now proceed with the first pick.
Standard rules - 8 hours for a pick. 2 rounds of drafting.
I've but a vague idea who's actually through here:
Aldo
Chester
Invictus
Joga
Tuppet
EAP/NM
...and the last three?
Aldo
Chester
Invictus
Joga
Tuppet
EAP/NM
...and the last three?
Here's the thread marked post with all the info.
Here's a remarkable stat about Der Kaiser. In a 10 year period from 1966-1976, the beginning of Beckenbauer's career in the Bundesliga till he went to America, Der Kaiser never finished outside the top 5 of the ballon d'Or, bar once in 1969 when he finished a dismal 7th. He won it twice, finished runners up twice, came third once, fourth four times and fifth once.
Ouch.
Joga Bonito 1. Beckenbauer
Tuppet 1.
harms 1.
NM/EAP 1.
Gio/Theon 1.
Invictus 1.
Chesterlestreet 1.
Aldo 1.
Tuppet 1.
harms 1.
NM/EAP 1.
Gio/Theon 1.
Invictus 1.
Chesterlestreet 1.
Aldo 1.
Need to look at Joga's team.
Aldo 1. Best 2. Chumpitaz 3. Pirri 4. Israel 5. Ademir da Guia 6. Boninsegna 7. Furino 8. Prati 9. Stepney 10. Lawler 11. F. Cruz 12. Sala
Chesterlestreet 1. Pelé 2. Greaves 3. Bremner 4. Corso 5. E. Hughes 6. Lorimer 7. Muntyan 8. Smith 9. Cooper 10. Pivarnik 11. Clemence 12. England
Invictus 1. Eusébio 2. Mazzola 3. Haan 4. Suurbier 5. Perfumo 6. Weber 7. Bonev 8. Bransch 9. Carpegiani 10. Viktor 11. Rildo 12. Fazekas
Gio/Theon 1. Figueroa 2. Cubillas 3. Deyna 4. Clodoaldo 5. Bulgarelli 6. Rocha 7. Ancheta 8. Mazurkiewicz 9. Asparuhov 10. Shalamanov 11. Anczok 12. Meroni
NM/EAP 1. Facchetti 2. Riva 3. Jair 4. Stiles 5. Luis Pereira 6. Martin Peters 7. Bosquier 8. Yakimov 9. De Sisti 10. Anquilletti 11. Rudakov 12. Valdes
harms 1. Krol 2. Florian Albert 3. Van Himst 4. Roth 5. Blankenburg 6. Lennox 7. Dzodzuashvili 8. G. Mühren 9. Bedin 10. Kaplychnyi 11. van Beveren 12. Penev
Tuppet 1. Rivera 2. Džajić 3. Shesternyov 4. Causio 5. Lubański 6. Piazza 7. Bo Larsson 8. Lovchev 9. Fazlagic 10. Julio Meléndez Calderón 11. Leao 12. Sotil
Joga Bonito 1. Law 2. Netzer 3. A.Ball 4. Wimmer 5. Gadocha 6. Greig 7. Byshovets 8. Sieloff 9. Reaney 10. Kapellmann 11. Nigbur 12. Madeley
@Aldo Could you also post this under the reinforcement details post, so that it's easier to track the current teams.
Chesterlestreet 1. Pelé 2. Greaves 3. Bremner 4. Corso 5. E. Hughes 6. Lorimer 7. Muntyan 8. Smith 9. Cooper 10. Pivarnik 11. Clemence 12. England
Invictus 1. Eusébio 2. Mazzola 3. Haan 4. Suurbier 5. Perfumo 6. Weber 7. Bonev 8. Bransch 9. Carpegiani 10. Viktor 11. Rildo 12. Fazekas
Gio/Theon 1. Figueroa 2. Cubillas 3. Deyna 4. Clodoaldo 5. Bulgarelli 6. Rocha 7. Ancheta 8. Mazurkiewicz 9. Asparuhov 10. Shalamanov 11. Anczok 12. Meroni
NM/EAP 1. Facchetti 2. Riva 3. Jair 4. Stiles 5. Luis Pereira 6. Martin Peters 7. Bosquier 8. Yakimov 9. De Sisti 10. Anquilletti 11. Rudakov 12. Valdes
harms 1. Krol 2. Florian Albert 3. Van Himst 4. Roth 5. Blankenburg 6. Lennox 7. Dzodzuashvili 8. G. Mühren 9. Bedin 10. Kaplychnyi 11. van Beveren 12. Penev
Tuppet 1. Rivera 2. Džajić 3. Shesternyov 4. Causio 5. Lubański 6. Piazza 7. Bo Larsson 8. Lovchev 9. Fazlagic 10. Julio Meléndez Calderón 11. Leao 12. Sotil
Joga Bonito 1. Law 2. Netzer 3. A.Ball 4. Wimmer 5. Gadocha 6. Greig 7. Byshovets 8. Sieloff 9. Reaney 10. Kapellmann 11. Nigbur 12. Madeley
@Aldo Could you also post this under the reinforcement details post, so that it's easier to track the current teams.
Joga Bonito 1. Beckenbauer
Tuppet 1. Muller
harms 1.
NM/EAP 1.
Gio/Theon 1.
Invictus 1.
Chesterlestreet 1.
Aldo 1.
@harms
Why start a new list for the reinforcements instead of just continuing the orginal one with 13. and 14. like we always did?
Why not?
This.
It's pointless. The full rosters will have to be updated anyway.
Aldo 1. Best 2. Chumpitaz 3. Pirri 4. Israel 5. Ademir da Guia 6. Boninsegna 7. Furino 8. Prati 9. Stepney 10. Lawler 11. F. Cruz 12. Sala
Chesterlestreet 1. Pelé 2. Greaves 3. Bremner 4. Corso 5. E. Hughes 6. Lorimer 7. Muntyan 8. Smith 9. Cooper 10. Pivarnik 11. Clemence 12. England
Invictus 1. Eusébio 2. Mazzola 3. Haan 4. Suurbier 5. Perfumo 6. Weber 7. Bonev 8. Bransch 9. Carpegiani 10. Viktor 11. Rildo 12. Fazekas
Gio/Theon 1. Figueroa 2. Cubillas 3. Deyna 4. Clodoaldo 5. Bulgarelli 6. Rocha 7. Ancheta 8. Mazurkiewicz 9. Asparuhov 10. Shalamanov 11. Anczok 12. Meroni
NM/EAP 1. Facchetti 2. Riva 3. Jair 4. Stiles 5. Luis Pereira 6. Martin Peters 7. Bosquier 8. Yakimov 9. De Sisti 10. Anquilletti 11. Rudakov 12. Valdes
harms 1. Krol 2. Florian Albert 3. Van Himst 4. Roth 5. Blankenburg 6. Lennox 7. Dzodzuashvili 8. G. Mühren 9. Bedin 10. Kaplychnyi 11. van Beveren 12. Penev
Tuppet 1. Rivera 2. Džajić 3. Shesternyov 4. Causio 5. Lubański 6. Piazza 7. Bo Larsson 8. Lovchev 9. Fazlagic 10. Julio Meléndez Calderón 11. Leao 12. Sotil 13. Muller 14.
Joga Bonito 1. Law 2. Netzer 3. A.Ball 4. Wimmer 5. Gadocha 6. Greig 7. Byshovets 8. Sieloff 9. Reaney 10. Kapellmann 11. Nigbur 12. Madeley 13. Beckenbauer 14.
@harms
Chesterlestreet 1. Pelé 2. Greaves 3. Bremner 4. Corso 5. E. Hughes 6. Lorimer 7. Muntyan 8. Smith 9. Cooper 10. Pivarnik 11. Clemence 12. England
Invictus 1. Eusébio 2. Mazzola 3. Haan 4. Suurbier 5. Perfumo 6. Weber 7. Bonev 8. Bransch 9. Carpegiani 10. Viktor 11. Rildo 12. Fazekas
Gio/Theon 1. Figueroa 2. Cubillas 3. Deyna 4. Clodoaldo 5. Bulgarelli 6. Rocha 7. Ancheta 8. Mazurkiewicz 9. Asparuhov 10. Shalamanov 11. Anczok 12. Meroni
NM/EAP 1. Facchetti 2. Riva 3. Jair 4. Stiles 5. Luis Pereira 6. Martin Peters 7. Bosquier 8. Yakimov 9. De Sisti 10. Anquilletti 11. Rudakov 12. Valdes
harms 1. Krol 2. Florian Albert 3. Van Himst 4. Roth 5. Blankenburg 6. Lennox 7. Dzodzuashvili 8. G. Mühren 9. Bedin 10. Kaplychnyi 11. van Beveren 12. Penev
Tuppet 1. Rivera 2. Džajić 3. Shesternyov 4. Causio 5. Lubański 6. Piazza 7. Bo Larsson 8. Lovchev 9. Fazlagic 10. Julio Meléndez Calderón 11. Leao 12. Sotil 13. Muller 14.
Joga Bonito 1. Law 2. Netzer 3. A.Ball 4. Wimmer 5. Gadocha 6. Greig 7. Byshovets 8. Sieloff 9. Reaney 10. Kapellmann 11. Nigbur 12. Madeley 13. Beckenbauer 14.
@harms
I love you! And he is the perfect pick for you, no doubt, much better than Cruyff with Rivera here
Joga Bonito 1. Beckenbauer
Tuppet 1. Muller
harms 1.
NM/EAP 1.
Gio/Theon 1.
Invictus 1.
Chesterlestreet 1.
Aldo 1.
@harms