You will be selling players because that's the mode of business at Spurs. Buy cheap, sell high. Building a stadium isn't going to change that, not unless you drastically improve.
A serious look at Mauricio Pochettino
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
Originally you said we'll be selling players because "the [stadium] construction cost has skyrocketed". Now you say it's because "that's the mode of business at Spurs".
This changed reasoning shows your wishful thinking and your desire to come up with any old justification for it.
The main thing that has sky-rocketed is Spurs income: £209.8m (year ended June 30th 2016, an increase of 7% on the prior year), £305.6m last season (according to Deloitte), which would be an increase of 45% on the prior season. And next season the increase will again be massive, probably taking us through the £400m barrier.
In summary, Spurs are not short of money and have zero need to sell players.
It shows how little you know if you think an overspend in infrastructure or stadium means we have to sell a player. If you go get a loan for capital investment any bank is going to insist proof that u can prove u can make payments up to and over the initial amount.
Ok please explain our mode of business? Also point out how our stadium won't change "our mode of business".
When I said they would turn into another Arsenal it meant their management is content with top 4 and Pochetinno is under no pressure to win big trophies just like Wenger at Arsenal not the size or profile of the club.
Thiery Henry about the bolded part so you agree with my point about the money what I said was using money as an excuse doesn't work for them because even after stadium expansion and extra resources generated they would still have two Manchester clubs significantly able to outspend them and in the long run money talks.
Rubbish basically. If you think silly money would make Spurs consider selling Kane you are in cloud cuckoo land. Just because you want it to happen doesn't mean it has any basis in reality.
The stadium costs are completely covered and does not in any way have to be paid for by selling key players.
First of all...a league cup wouldn't change anything. I don't think you actually realise the project at Spurs and what the ambition is.
Read these quotes from Poch from yesterday.
Mauricio Pochettino feels the pressure of sending Tottenham to their new stadium as a Champions League team but insists the club's long-term plan is more important than winning a trophy.
Spurs face Arsenal at Wembley on Saturday, knowing victory would deliver a major boost to their own chances of finishing in the Premier League top four and deal a hammer blow to the hopes of their north London rivals.
Arsenal trail Tottenham by four points in the table, with the prospect of Pochettino's side ending a second consecutive season above the Gunners now within sight.
League position, however, counts for only so much. Spurs are yet to win any silverware during Pochettino's tenure, while a turbulent few years for Arsenal has still included them lifting the FA Cup three times in four seasons
Pochettino, whose side are due to return to an overhauled White Hart Lane next season, claims reviewing Tottenham's progress on trophies alone is to miss the wider point.
"When we arrived we realised how difficult it was and what would be the process of moving from one stadium to another. We knew it was a difficult moment in terms of the whole process of the club but we went through
"I feel the responsibility to manage a club and a company, that you need results to be sure that all the income will be at a level to start a process to build a new stadium, to attract players, to play Champions League.
"That is a little bit unfair when you compare us with another. People say, 'Tottenham need to win a title'. But for me, the process is more than winning a title.
"Another thing that is important, when you compete against massive sides like City, United, Arsenal, Chelsea, Liverpool and the broadcasters give them massive money - that massive money, for them, goes to investing in new players.
"For us it means to build the project so that one day we have the capacity to do the same or change the philosophy."
What he's basically saying is for our rivals, they can spend all their money on players and concentrate on winning trophies. For us as have had to concentrate on building the club up on and off the field to enable us to get into a position to consistently challenge for the elite titles.
Winning a league cup won't change that.
Also for you to somehow make it a negative that he didn't win a trophy at Southampton. What on earth do you expect? There isn't a manager on earth who could guarantee Southampton trophies bar incredible fortune and luck. Football is quite a simple game, the teams with the best players normally win all the trophies...and the biggest and richest clubs have all the best players. So you tell me which top managers managed midtable sides like Espanyol and Southampton and won trophies? I'm interested to hear that. Did Mourinho or Pep Guardiola? Hmmm no they didn't.
Big pile of an excuse that, he now has a very good team that stayed together for a number of years (cohesiveness that other teams going through transitions do not exhibit) with the best out and out striker in the world (admittedly, he has a huge stake in developing those players), hence hiding behind ‘process’ and ‘project’ is ridiculous when topic turns to winning some silverware. Personally, while he is obviously a fantastic manager he become to comfortable at Spurs with the way they operate, meaning little pressure - later years Wenger if you will.
I kind of get Poch's point, but he can only hide behind the 'process' argument for so long. They can't compete with City or United for players fee-wise, but they have a good squad and made shedloads selling some players, so it's not like they can't afford top talent.
Got Spurs playing champagne football
Prediction:
He's gonna leave for Real and take Kane with him.
He's gonna leave for Real and take Kane with him.
They're so aggressive.
Love the way he plays a 4231. Another great win for Poch today.
He's on our radar. I have no doubt
And when he gets fired;he'll come to us
Wanted him in2016 but I'm over that now.
Just want us to take some lessons from them especially in big games.
The more aggressive team wind most of the time.
Just want us to take some lessons from them especially in big games.
The more aggressive team wind most of the time.
Completely shut us and Arsenal out, using a 4231.
Roaming attacking midfielders and high full backs, but always a box of four (centre backs and defensive midfielders) staying back to snuff out any potential counters. Beautiful to watch.
So their dreaded run in against United, Liverpool & Arsenal finished with 7 points. Very impressive.
Can't wait to see how they perform against Juventus.
7/9 from those 3 games is really impressive. I think they will knock Juventus out, they should certainly approach the tie with zero inferiority complex.
Two teams in great form. Could be an exceptional tie.
I'd just fancy Juve because of their experience that level but only just.
Just not away though.
must be nice.....
50/50 against Juve, Spurs have hit good form and had all their injury woes iron out at the right time, just Alderweireld and Rose now to get some match fitness up, but both back and playing. Wanyama, Dembele, Lamela all back and playing, will take some time id imagine for Moura to be ready.
I still fancy Juventus to pip Spurs but it certainly will not be easy.
I still fancy Juventus to pip Spurs but it certainly will not be easy.
I can't see how he can succeeded in Real Madrid with the way he want his team play. I can't see CR7, Modric, Kroos and Benz can adapt to his high pressing game.
How many of CR7, Modric, Kroos, and Benz will still be at Madrid next year? My guess is that, at the very least, CR7 and Benz are gone, along with Bale, and Madrid completely rebuild their attack for next year.
Still not won anything etc etc.
I’m staying at Tottenham till I’m 74 years old.
still cannot see the hype behind the man
He's finally ready to go to a big club
He hasn't won anything, but he is a damn good coach. You can tell he trains his players properly. They always seem to peak at this point in the season and with four intense games (United, Liverpool, Arsenal, Juve), he's got the maximum out of his squad, especially Dembele.
I think he could succeed in Real Madrid, whether the players buy into his philosophy is another matter. But that club will be sniffing after him and Kane.
I think he could succeed in Real Madrid, whether the players buy into his philosophy is another matter. But that club will be sniffing after him and Kane.
Surely Kane will feck off this summer?
I had doubt about him until this last month or so. Most impressive thing to me about his sides is they may have moments of madness, but they never give up even in difficult situations.
He can go to Madrid, Bayern, PSG or Barcelona and wins trophies if he wants. What he is doing/done at Spurs is something much more incredible than winning simple trophies. It reminds me of the foundation Sir Alex Ferguson laid at United.
Would hand Mourinho his p45 tomorrow if it meant we could get Poch. Sets his team up the way I want to see United play.
Unless Spurs have a terrible end to the season and Real want to pay €200m then can't see that happening. He seems comfortable in London.
It was more of a joke.
People on here question him as a coach because he's not won any major trophies for Tottenham. Me personally, I'd love him here
Nope.
I'd love for him to take over after Mourinho but these performances in Europe will make Madrid act quick and he won't reject them for us
That's the 'drew to Juventus away from home' cup secured for Pochettino; maybe he can challenge SAF for the number of trophies won?