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I wish I could read the remainder of that sentence. I’m quite certain it would be a doozy.
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About as expected, even a bonus follow up to make it hit home.
All of James Ellis’ potential children should be aborted. Walking red flag. What an utter ghoul.
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I swear someone needs to do some digging to find out ALL of the Republicans' wives and mistresses who had access to abortion services. Put the hypocrisy into the spotlight.
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The baby lived, so this story will only embolden the forced birthers.
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Woman who took abortion pills after UK legal time limit jailed
Woman had pleaded guilty to taking the drugs too late after procuring them under ‘pills by post’ scheme in pandemic
A woman has been sentenced to 28 months in prison after pleading guilty to procuring drugs to induce an abortion after the legal limit.
The mother of three, 44, received the medication under the “pills by post” scheme, which was introduced during the Covid pandemic.
She will serve half of her sentence in custody and the remaining under licence.
The scheme allowed medication to induce an abortion to be supplied after a remote consultation for pregnancies up to 10 weeks.
The court heard previously that the woman terminated her pregnancy past that point, and at a previous hearing had pleaded guilty to taking abortion pills after the legal time limit. During the hearing, the court heard the woman was not aware of how advanced the pregnancy was as she was unable to attend a scan during lockdown.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...-taking-abortion-pills-after-legal-time-limit
The UK, ladies and gentlemen.
Woman had pleaded guilty to taking the drugs too late after procuring them under ‘pills by post’ scheme in pandemic
A woman has been sentenced to 28 months in prison after pleading guilty to procuring drugs to induce an abortion after the legal limit.
The mother of three, 44, received the medication under the “pills by post” scheme, which was introduced during the Covid pandemic.
She will serve half of her sentence in custody and the remaining under licence.
The scheme allowed medication to induce an abortion to be supplied after a remote consultation for pregnancies up to 10 weeks.
The court heard previously that the woman terminated her pregnancy past that point, and at a previous hearing had pleaded guilty to taking abortion pills after the legal time limit. During the hearing, the court heard the woman was not aware of how advanced the pregnancy was as she was unable to attend a scan during lockdown.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...-taking-abortion-pills-after-legal-time-limit
The UK, ladies and gentlemen.
This is misleading, @Frosty. She was at least 32 weeks pregnant and she already had 3 children. She also knew how far along she was.
This was a fully-viable, fully-formed baby. I've looked after a lot of babies of the same gestation.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-stoke-staffordshire-65882169
This was a fully-viable, fully-formed baby. I've looked after a lot of babies of the same gestation.
The sentence should have been longer. At 32 weeks, you're at term or near enough. It's a fully fledged baby you're carrying. That poor baby being aborted at that point of time is depressing.
Yes, and it's very wrong that this is being used to suggest that the UK has draconian laws regarding abortion. It doesn't. The judge said the woman would have been given a suspended sentence had she pleaded guilty earlier.
I'm sure she feels terrible about it now, but she had the option of giving up the baby for adoption as soon as it was born, had she just waited a few more weeks. Evidently she was trying to reconcile with her estranged partner, and this baby wasn't his child so she had concealed the pregnancy.
I'd almost be ok with a murder charge based on those details. This fetus was an obstacle for her romantic plans and she eliminated it. Despicable behaviour.
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Feck me. As someone who was born on week 27, that's just brutal.
It's sooooo hard to judge or try not to,
seeing as we have absolutely no idea what she was going through mentally with herself,
but Christ... this is actually killing the most innocent and helpless creature you can imagine.
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A cortex may be required to feel pain but there is no evidence that a fetus actually feels any pain before birth.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prenatal_perceptionWikipedia said:
I guess it comes down to an argument about,
1) personhood - when does a foetus become a person which is often related to viability and sensory abilities including pain
2) bodily rights - no matter the personhood or otherwise of the fetus it is argued that a woman has the right to control her own body including providing life support to a fetus at any stage.
In practice most countries choose an often fairly arbitrary point in gestational weeks where it is assume that a fotus has become a person with rights and those rights are now at least equal to the rights of the woman to control her body and abortion is prohibited.
1) personhood - when does a foetus become a person which is often related to viability and sensory abilities including pain
2) bodily rights - no matter the personhood or otherwise of the fetus it is argued that a woman has the right to control her own body including providing life support to a fetus at any stage.
In practice most countries choose an often fairly arbitrary point in gestational weeks where it is assume that a fotus has become a person with rights and those rights are now at least equal to the rights of the woman to control her body and abortion is prohibited.
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These kind of stories are where you actually need the death penalty
Erm?
They wouldn't give the abuser the death penalty anyway, because that would incentivise them and others to kill the child to remove the evidence
I guess this isn't the thread but you could argue it's more of a deterrent, revolting scenario
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Easier access to medical abortion pills in Australia
https://www.theguardian.com/austral...ill-ms-2-step-ru486-limits-scrapped-australia
https://www.theguardian.com/austral...ill-ms-2-step-ru486-limits-scrapped-australia
Tone deaf stupidity like this could unbelievably put Ohio & Iowa into the ‘toss up’ bracket in 2024…
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A bit tangential, but no doubt it will be targeted by the cast of pol characters in backwards state…
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