I don't think so. Not being able to establish his guilt beyond any doubt isn't taken as declaring that the accuser is lying, I don't think.
Adam Johnson found guilty of one count of sexual activity with a child | Sentenced to six years
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Some cases it is 14 years and yes I agree the Luke McCormick sentence was an abomination.
Just be thankful you don't understand the mindset of a man who knowingly pursues an underage girl, I guess.
Exactly they can't prove what happened in that case, but could in the other incidents. I just hope this girl recovers from all this and in the long term it doesn't come back to haunt his own little girl.
Seems like it so far. Look at Bill Cosby case and for how many years he remained not only unpunished but throughout that time no one could even break the simple silence.
We know how these things generally go: he might well get an eye-catching sentence - just to keep us plebs quiet - but once his lawyers get involved further down the line, and once the authorities bend over backwards in view of "a young man's promising career and guaranteed financial security thwarted by an unfortunate lapse of reason" or some such nonsense, he'll be out within three years maximum. And probably signed up by another club.
Unfortunate now that he's pleaded guilty, but that's with the benefit of hindsight. It wouldn't make sense for the club to remove the armband and continue to play him... or maybe it would be. My opinion on this isn't strong.
I can't see him getting much work in his 30s after three years out. Especially after seeing how fans of clubs reacted to the possibility of signing Ched Evans.
Its not a lot when you realise he will only serve half the sentence, the rest on licence.
They knew he had groomed and kissed this girl. It's very, very poor judgement at the least.
A club can legally terminate a contract at any time, but the player has to be paid off, either by coming to a deal, or if the player won't negotiate by paying off his full expected wages over the length of the contract. Perhaps there's some get out that is activated once found guilty of breaking the law like this, or something that made waiting to terminate his contract a financial issue.
I'm sorry but it should be. This is one of the most heinous crimes someone could commit. The poor girl will deal with this for the rest of her life. He shouldn't be playing for a Premier League club. He just shouldn't. If they knew he willingly kissed a 15 year old I don't know what they were thinking.
Ah, I didn't realise he'd be that old (in footballing terms).
Why are footballers so thick? He could pay for, if not pull, all sorts of women and yet he goes for a minor? To call him a moron is an insult to all morons out there.
28 now, so only just, but still.
What a way to throw away your career and 20 odd years of hard work.
He won't get another club after this. Not a chance.
It's called mental illness, them being footballers or not, rich or not, is irrelevant.
On a side note it just depressed me slightly that I consider a footballer 'old' at 28, when I turn 29 tomorrow.
Eurgh those messages.
Dirtbag.
Dirtbag.
Considering what happened with Ched Evans, I doubt a club will take him on. Rapists are one thing but I think people who stuff deliberately with underage people are held in even lower regard. He'll be 31 at the least when he leaves prison. The very best he can hope for is League 1, which would still be too good for him.
Does he have a history of it? Could simple be a case of not refraining when he should have in a one off case. I haven't followed the case really as you can guess
What he did wouldn't be a crime in most European countries, I'm sure a mid table Serie A or Ligue 1 team would take a decent PL winger on a free. Lee Hughes and Luke McCormack have killed people, kids even, and both returned to football.
Not a history, but multiple meetings took place and he was actively pursuing her, all after he was completely aware of her age.Does he have a history of it? Could simple be a case of not refraining when he should have in a one off case. I haven't followed the case really as you can guess
Courtesy of RAWK:
If he admitted certain things to them (which is what is alleged) that behaviour certainly constitutes gross misconduct and would be grounds for dismissal. His contract will certainly provide for that. They sack him then he has to take legal proceedings to recover money owed. I suspect he wouldn't have given what he's now admitted to. His legal fees in that type of action could run to millions with a small chance of success.
Huge PR own goal from Sunderland here if the allegations are true.
There were rumours that he was known to have a thing for younger girls, but this was when all the details came out, no idea how true it is.Does he have a history of it? Could simple be a case of not refraining when he should have in a one off case. I haven't followed the case really as you can guess
Because people say libellous things online behind the anonymity of the Internet. They also make stuff up.
Could get very costly for those involved.
Wait, where was this reported?Courtesy of RAWK:
Just clicked on the link and there's a history of WhatsApp chats leading up to the act. Christ. I thought it was sort of a drunken act.
Yeah, tough to know how much of it is real.
Deserves all he gets ,he spent a year calling the kid a liar when the whole area would know who she was.
Was just about to ask if he knew she was 15 and saw the whatsapp chat. 60k per week and he's courting 15 year olds. He's an idiot nothing more to add on this one...
From the Daily Mail, via RAWK. Immaculate sources, I assure you.
Daily Fail
What an idiot. Suprised at the length of the sentence though, I'm guessing legally the sentence is the same whether she'd have been 1 day from 16 or 12?? A minor being a minor.
Was that just made up or was it actually reported somewhere? Based on the level of moderation on this matter I'd avoid posting made up nonsense (for either side of this case).Courtesy of RAWK:
He broke the law and should be punished.
That said it is a bit of a '40 in a 30 zone' crime isn't it? I lost my virginity at 15 to someone in their 20s. If he wasn't a footballer I don't think this would have ever got any further than an awkward fumble in a car. I'm not defending him but if we think girls and boys pop their cherries with people strictly their side of the age of consent line then we're kidding ourselves.
That said it is a bit of a '40 in a 30 zone' crime isn't it? I lost my virginity at 15 to someone in their 20s. If he wasn't a footballer I don't think this would have ever got any further than an awkward fumble in a car. I'm not defending him but if we think girls and boys pop their cherries with people strictly their side of the age of consent line then we're kidding ourselves.
^ interesting you mention that. I remember Kleberson had a wife who was less than 16 years old.
Around the time of his arrest I heard quite a lot of stuff from a "source close to the club", so to speak. There's a bit of a divide in the club. You have the foreign players, plus the likes of the very devout John O'Shea, who are very straight laced. Then there is a cohort of a few English players who baffle and revolt them with gross behaviour. They just can't understand the behaviour of them. Johnson is part of that crew, as was this lad for another example:
Fletcher and Wickham were also mentioned during the trial.
Fletcher and Wickham were also mentioned during the trial.
If indeed he has a history of this behaviour aside from the case, then it goes way beyond 'spoilt footballer chases skirt, thinking he'll get away with it' territory.
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