Forget his attitude, he probably just isn't particularly talented.
Adnan Januzaj Exit Speculation
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) was joined by comedian Ali Woods to look back at the best and worst moments of a rollercoaster season with the annual United Hour Awards.
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This report is simply the latest of a succession of similar reports from the past 18 months: LVG, Tutchel and Mourinho all came to the same conclusion.
Its damning for Januzaj when LVG proved his desire to back youth but sent him on loan.
Either he has peaked or has an attitude problem. Either way, there is more than enough evidence to prove that the issue is with the player.
Yeah, I think he has peaked.
There was a thread yesterday, showing we've something like 30 of our academy players currently residing in the PL. Januzaj is infinitely more talented than the Danny Simpson's, Phil Bardsley's, Drinkwater's & Shawcross of the league etc etc, it's not a question of him going on to become a Premier League player but rather just how good a Premier League player will he go on to become.
This....
Januzaj have basicly wasted 3 years of hes career by being less than fully commited if all the managers that worked with him is correct. Mourinho is doing the right thing here by saying either you do your best all the time or you get moved on and it seem Adnan didne listen. I hope he does well but i think a sell rather than a loan is best. I have a sneaking feeling that as long he knows he "gets" another chance by coming back after the loan spell he wont do hes best at the new club as he thinks the number of chances are unlimited. We cant keep going on giving people 5+ years to show how good they are and talent is so overrated and easily thrown around, if they dont apply them selves and take the training seriously they need to be shown the door to avoid complacency. I stil cant believe we had Anderson here for like 8 years and only 2 of them were decent.
Can't say I care, bye bye.
Good post. The fact that Rashford emerged out of nowhere and has more or less forced himself into a permanent first team job speaks volumes when compared with Januzaj flopping about for the past 2 years.
They do. It could just be that no club is in a position to buy him outright for whatever reason but we don't want his attitude stinking the place up so a loan is the only way to get him out for now.
I think the best way to sum up my feelings on this would be the Alan Partridge shrug gif.
I agree that it speaks volume in Rashfords favour that he seems to work hard on and off the pitch which is the bare minimum expected of a professional footballer and this earns him time in the 1st team training squad and on the pitch on match days and if he keeps it up this will be the difference of having a future at Manchester United or one at Sunderland. Manchester United need to reward good behaviour like this to make sure every talent we have gets it... work hard or you wont get your chance. Its actual Critical for succesful management that you never reward bad behaviour as it only reinforces that type of behaviour going forward which leads to stagnation at best. Also in my book you can have 1-2 months were you might not be able to do your best if someone you care about died etc that gives good reason to it as we are all human beings but entire seasons of putting in 50% the effort for no good reason should be a red flag in my book and is inexcusable for any player that picks up payment to train. Im happy to see Mourinho giving the slackers in our squad a kick up the backside saying this aint gonna continue from here on.
Sad how this is turning out. I really was routing for him coming good this season but clear Jose sees something that's been seen by others before him. Just not worked out for him, but if there is a chance he is fine going on loan 1 more time, I would have that rather than to let him go, but maybe that's just me being scared of repeating this 89mill pound mistake again. Then again, he hasn't shown enough to warrant fear that he will become a world beater. Wish him the best of luck, however this pans out.
Is he really though? Only if you equate talent purely on the ability to skin someone. Januzaj has never looked like a good footballer to be honest. He's had his moments but all his games are punctuated with "he'll get better with experience" or whatever. Instead he's regressed
Christ on a bike you cannot be serious. His talent is not in doubt, attitude definitely so.
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In the youth he stood out like a sore thumb everytime he played, his footballing brain and technical ability could be spotted by a blind man, I don't know what you're basing that all he can do is skin an opponent, when that was never his forte to begin with.
All those posters here saying there's a massive difference between Januzaj and Rashford and which one they should back, no doubt the same posters would be on here sprouting the usual: Get rid, he's shite, if he has a couple quiet years under Mourinho.
When was the last time he had a regular run of games? More than a year and a half ago. That's a problem.
He needs regular playing time, one way or the another. And if he is unwilling to go on loan, then he must be sold with a buy-back, preferably.
That Dortmund loan was a disaster. That's where things started to go wrong for him.
He needs regular playing time, one way or the another. And if he is unwilling to go on loan, then he must be sold with a buy-back, preferably.
That Dortmund loan was a disaster. That's where things started to go wrong for him.
Way to ignore all of the main points made by the fellow you were responding to !
The overhyping of Januzaj is one of the biggest cringes in my time supporting United . He's just not that good a football player. Gifs versus hull or Sunderland just don't justify the hardons some people still have .
Andros Townsend is better than him ffs
Andros Townsend is better than him ffs
This. I have been pointing out the flaws in his game (bad decision making, headless chicken, too selfish, hold the ball too long, too weak, tendency to dive etc) and argued that he was way overhyped even in his first season (comparison with Ronaldo, being hailed as next coming etc). But people back then just shrugged off and assumed it was just the young thing and it would all come good in the end. But what we saw now there's no sign of improvement at all, and he is even getting worse and worse (with bad attitude too).
As I mentioned earlier, we hyped him in the same way Liverpool fans have done for all their young 'stars' and we laughed at them for it when they came to nothing.
Young players that don't play regular football don't succeed. This club has been horrible with young players for years. We keep talented lads in the reserves until they're in their twenties and act surprised when they don't have career's as expected. We sold a player like Tom Thorpe - who was talented, no doubt - in his twenties having played less than 15 professional football games. A player like him should have been out on loan years prior to that.
Januzaj's apparent poor attitude has been well documented, and that he's fecking around is his mistake, but he hasn't been developed particularly well either. He wasn't playing regularly during the first season under Van Gaal, then having started the first few games of last season (scoring against Villa), he was inexplicably sent out on loan to Germany. I still can't get my head around that move.
Januzaj's talent is clear. He can do things with the ball that many footballers simply cannot, and he's more than young enough to turn it around. A move away might be the best thing for him at this point, because moping about at United with a bad attitude will be a waste of everybody's time.
I still firmly believe he's got all of the game to develop into one of the best attacking midfielders around. A fresh start and a kick up the arse might just be the best thing for him.
Januzaj's apparent poor attitude has been well documented, and that he's fecking around is his mistake, but he hasn't been developed particularly well either. He wasn't playing regularly during the first season under Van Gaal, then having started the first few games of last season (scoring against Villa), he was inexplicably sent out on loan to Germany. I still can't get my head around that move.
Januzaj's talent is clear. He can do things with the ball that many footballers simply cannot, and he's more than young enough to turn it around. A move away might be the best thing for him at this point, because moping about at United with a bad attitude will be a waste of everybody's time.
I still firmly believe he's got all of the game to develop into one of the best attacking midfielders around. A fresh start and a kick up the arse might just be the best thing for him.
Maybe he has lost interest because he is discouraged? Maybe he feels forgotten or treated unfairly? Maybe he's not the sort to go into the manager's office and speak up? Whether that is right or wrong, he is a young person that could benefit from leadership and our leadership has been in turmoil for a while. A great manager could find a way to get through to him that would be effective. The team that gets the most out of his play will be the one that finds a way to make him feel the way he needs to feel to play well. Blaming a 21 year old makes no sense to me.
Or maybe he is only at same level of say Zaha, who also looks like a great young talent when he first broke out at Palace?
Zaha had very obvious flaws, which is why I never wanted him. Never really cared for his technique, and was far more one dimensional.
I'm super disappointed in how Adnan has turned out. Thought he was going to become a star as he was really intelligent on the pitch at youth level. I still don't know what happened and why he started to emphasize dribbling once Moyes came. I think that's his main flaw right now. If he goes back to what originally made a lot of us who watch youth football rate him, he will succeed. He still has great control, great first touch, through ball ability, etc...
He's not a winger and never was.
Suddenly he's no longer a talented player and hasn't even shown much talent in his short career. Incredible revisionism simply because he looks set to leave.
Wasn't that long ago he was world-class on here.
Something just isn't adding up for me. He has a relaxed attitude in training but, in the offseason he's training hard and earlier in the year he takes a fitness coach with him on his holiday to keep in shape? Wonder if it's a perception problem on the way he carries himself during training. For instance players like Berba and Ozil are said to be lazy/don't care but, often the stats show they've covered the most distance in games.
Anyway - if Mou doesn't fancy him then a loan is pointless and he is absolutely right to want a permanent move. This is his life/career. Going on loan and then coming back to a coach that doesn't fancy you anyway only the following season to be sold / loaned out? Strange that people take offense to this as he hasn't said anything bad - just is making a decision for the betterment of his own future.
By the time he is 25, Januzaj will be a brilliant player, easily good enough to be a starter in the United team.
By the way, the number of crap articles being written in the last few days is unreal. Mourinho said in his pre-game press conference that he intends to use a squad of 23 outfield players + 3 keepers due to the Europa League, yet journalist after journalist, who supposedly are either United specialists, or experts on Mourinho, keep writing 21 outfield players.
By the way, the number of crap articles being written in the last few days is unreal. Mourinho said in his pre-game press conference that he intends to use a squad of 23 outfield players + 3 keepers due to the Europa League, yet journalist after journalist, who supposedly are either United specialists, or experts on Mourinho, keep writing 21 outfield players.
I always believe Hard work is also a talent and i think januzaj is not having this talent at all. Januzaj in his head has already made it but he refuses to see people more talented in football have been on this road and it has ended badly for them. Ben arfa, Adel taraabt, Quaresma etc all examples Januzaj needs to look at.
By all reports and account, LvG wanted him to send to England or Championship for loan but Dortmund was his own choice.
Really, really hopes he turns it around. Great talent.
He really does need playing time. He has hardly played the past 2 seasons and has played lw, rw, cam, wingback, striker, cm, etc... Probably not the best for his development.
I think he carries himself like this all the time, I remember during the Burnley home game two seasons ago, everyone was screaming at him as he strolling around like a lost kid. He's been massively overrated in my opinion, the talent is there but the will and drive that makes a top pro is not.
He is talented but his first season has been overrated a lot. It's being described he had a season like martial had when in fact it's debatable he even had a better season than lingard did last season.
That's how it is. When attacking player makes good impression early then he is next Ronaldo, Messi and a superstar in making. Once he stops developing as expected then he was never a good talent, attitude issues and what not.
I'm truly amazed you believe Januzaj under Moyes didn't show more than Lingard did last season. There's a reason why the Caf went crazy about the lad after that season. Things have gone downhill fot him since but how good he was then and the talent is unquestionable for me. That said, talent alone doesn't make a top footballer so he needs to get his head screwed right. I'd really prefer it happening here but even if he moves on, I hope he sorts himself out. He's tiers above the Lingards of this world as far as ability is concerned.
Yeah, somehow people expect progression to be strictly linear which is never the case. There's a lot required over and above talent to make it big anyways.
Far too overrated by some on here. I was guilty of that myself after his first season, but did always think that once he was only being used as a wide man.. he wasn't going to make it at this level. For me if he had been at a lesser club and learnt his trade as a number 10, he could have blossomed into a decent player.
Definitely not United material imo and needs to accept that fact.
Definitely not United material imo and needs to accept that fact.
Dortmund was his choice
Ac Milan seem interested
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