Depends from which direction wind blows,thats how opinion change here. Its funny,if we didnt have change after FA cup and its same situation,most here would go berzerk but now most are in sheep mode.
Adnan Januzaj Exit Speculation
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He showed some excellent play but he went missing in too many big games. Most of his excellent games were vs southampton Newcastle Sunderland and the likes. Lingard not only played really well vs Arsenal city Chelsea and all but he also scored two crucial goals in the FA cup and the community shield. Overall it's highly debatable.
Guess it depends on what you favor. The magical moments like Lingard's fa cup goal, or the more dominating performances of Januzaj. I don't think Lingard had those games where you thought "man, they just cannot stop him." Martial had those games, was more consistent, and had the end product.
I will give you £100* if you can find me a game where Berbatov covered more distance than anyone else. Literally just one game, you imply it happened often.
*I obviously wont really.
Comments like this are a little annoying. By "Wasn't that long ago" you mean two and a half years ago based on a small run of games. He has done barely anything like that since at here or Dortmund so yes I think people can change their minds as he obviously hasn't maintained the trajectory he was on. People aren't just being fickle from one week to the next, its over 2 years.
I hope if we sell him he goes on to be an absolute world beater.
as i said, most of such performances were vs sunderland, fulham, newcastle and the likes. At the time i didnt mind him not performing in the big games as he was only in his first season for us and moyes was abysmal in tactics (i dont think he started in some big games admittedly). LIngard had more reliable performances in the sense even if he doesnt play well attacking wise, he would not be a liability and would cover his side well and track back efficiently.
Well I'm no contract lawyer myself but yes we can put any clause in a contract we want... but we can't make Adnan or another club sign it though if they don't want to
Was hoping he could have stayed, had high hopes for him.
Now best to hope for is maybe a loan, or a sale with a buy back clause.
Now best to hope for is maybe a loan, or a sale with a buy back clause.
That's not going to happen, don't worry.
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However these clauses are becoming quite popular lately especially in the Serie A where they struggle to find the cash to pay a player's full price. For example Real placed a buy back clause for Morata and they had now signed him back. It worked well for both parties. Real found someone who was ready to develop their player on their behalf. Juventus were able to benefit on a great young talent for a period of time and made a profit out of it.
AC Milan are more desperate then Juventus are. Berlusconi is close to sell the club to the Chinese and he has no intention to spend 1 penny more in what he believes to be a lost cause. The squad is in a bad shape and they need to sign players and sign them quickly
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Lingard has shown big game temperament. He seems a really confident guy.
Yep and that's something that allowed him to get playing time under LVG and Mou. That's also the reason why I think Adnan never stood a chance with Mou. He's a lot like Mata (at least before he came to United) in that he won't track back as often as a Lingard. That's also what kept him out of some playing time at Dortmund. Pretty sure he wasn't played in certain positions at times due to his lack of workrate.
When he's playing well, I love the way Januzaj plays. The closest comparison I have is Brian Laudrup and that is who he should model his game on.
But he has been desperately awful in his last 29 games for us and Dortmund and he needs to leave and mature. For all the talk of players "needing games" to
improve, look at Rashford and Lingard and how they have taken their chances.
But he has been desperately awful in his last 29 games for us and Dortmund and he needs to leave and mature. For all the talk of players "needing games" to
improve, look at Rashford and Lingard and how they have taken their chances.
Is my car going to break down next week?
Aye, think we're safe enough there alright.
He's a kid and was even more so 3yrs back. He's not expected to dominate games for us. The amount of dependency we showed spoke more about how terrible we were rather than his ability. Which other top club relies on a teenager the way we relied on him? In any case, I'm talking more about ability and talent and not immediate performances. Lingard hasn't shown me anything to feel he'll become a top player at a club liken ours. A great squad option seems to be his ceiling. Januzaj on the other hand has shown a lot more but unfortunately, he doesn't seem to have the attitude or grit that Lingard has. That said, he's still young and has time on his hand. There's absolutely no doubt who's the more exciting talent though and it's absolutely ridiculous how people are dissing on him because he looks to be leaving. Reminiscent of the pogba thread years ago btw where people were saying he couldn't even be arsed at reserve level, should be fecked off if he thinks he deserves a place etc etc.
Does your car have a history of breaking down? If not then you're probably alright.
Good, little prick deserves the chop. How many young lads would relish the chance to play for BVB? What did he do? Spat his dummy out like a spoilt little brat. He is shit anyway, hopefully i can come back to a thread that he's left by mutual consent - i don't see why any club of any decent level would offer any value to take this little moron away from us. Kick him out the door the ungrateful cockend.
They are both very different clauses. You would be able to add both.
Some posters huh ? fecking weird way of thinking. This "I love the player more than the club" is pathetic and this regarding any player, whether it's a legend or a young player who's proven feck all.The problem is that our fans have a tendency to massively overhype our young players. James Wilson (I haven't seen anything in him at all when he played), Cleverley (he was the next Scholes according to some...), Varela (doesn't matter that he cannot defend at all) and many many more who were supposed to be playing in starting XI but now playing in Championship instead. Januzaj? Yes, he was good for a few months when our team was in a state that it looked like he was the only one trying to do something on the pitch. He is still young, lots of time to turn it around but he needs to start working hard.
Completely feel the same way. I'm a bit callous but I always feel when we sell a player I hope they sink into obscurity or are doing alright for a midtable club. Last 4 years with Pogba has been torture in all honesty.
This possible exit doesn't bother me.
Tbh, once they leave, I feel no real attachment to them. If they do well (like Ronaldo for instance) then good for him and if they do badly, I won't mock them anymore than I would with other players. It's always and should always be about Man Utd.
I'm the same as @FlawlessThaw. It's not so much as mocking them, or hoping they have a shit career though. It's just a horrible feeling knowing that we let a really class player slip through our fingers. That feeling of what might have been. The less I hear about ex-United players the better tbh.
im not sure. Gary Neville is someone who had no exceptional talent but did well. I think Lingard has intelligence to adapt to managers well and this is going to make him a regular in the matchday squad either on the bench or starting.
People thought that about Pogba but Pogba is an outlier frankly. A more apt comparison would be that POgba went to juve and broke into the team in a small time. Even his other games he did impressive stuff like scoring long rangers. Januzaj went to Dortmund where he had similar tough competition but couldnt force onto the bench itself a lot. I think Pogba had more hunger to succeed than januzaj seems to have
The bolded wouldn't look out of place on bluemoon.
Why aren't United willing to sell him? If no club will pay a good fee, then add a sell on clause.
Only chance of this is after his I'm a celebrity get me out of here appearance , during which he vows to knock one out on every continent
I'm quite the opposite, as long as the player left on good terms I'm more than happy to see them have a good career. That is, if they're not constantly spouting nonsense to the media and stuff etc. about how hard done they were at United.
For example, I'm genuinely pleased Nani for the most part has been doing well since leaving us.
I hope exactly the same and there's a really good chance for it happening.
It's not a weird way of thinking. I hoped the exact same thing with Pogba after a while. It is so that the club and fans can learn a lesson. I am not blaming Mourinho because he hasn't seen anything of Januzaj in the past 2 years but LVG fecked him up big time.
He just wasn't played there and was signed as a backup. Whenever he was on he played really well. It wasn't that he had no hunger but he made a poor decision of going to Dortmund.
Januzaj is shit, get over it. Flair alone is worthless in football.
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I think that's a good move all round. I reckon he'll get 10+ goals there this season.
I saw a few games and his performances were not bad initially but later on he was quite poor in games he played, mainly the Europa games. Overall the performances were quite poor.
He wasn't played there because he didn't do anything to justify playing him (based on tuchel's comments) and I suppose that isn't far from the case at United too.
Not happy that we're helping these cnuts.
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