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Shaw is the best passer and dribbler but defensively this season he has been very shakey
his long passes are better than shaw..Seriously?
Half the time Shaw ends up playing almost as our main playmaker as he's such a good passer. His creativity from fullback is a huge weapon for us and to some extent helps mitigate the lack of passing ability our midfielders have. Telles is fairly good on the ball but Shaw at anything even close to his best is comfortably better. Of course, if you are purely talking about Shaw this season then fair enough, as he's been in shit form for most of it.
Confirms what my eyes tend to tell me, Shaw has more quality but is simply less arsed. When it comes to actually trying to make the most of their talents, Shaw seems often happy to just drift along and do the least possible. Such a shame.
Shaw is the best passer and dribbler but defensively this season he has been very shakey
I don't think his crosses are poor, our attackers don't make use of it and usually the tall PL defenders (Dowson & Zouma) can easily clear it, if you watch Liverpool for example you'll see 2-3 attackers contesting it causing havoc and chaos which might lead to a goal scoring chances, of course Telles is no TAA or Cancelo crossing wise, but his are decent enough for our attackers to make something out of them.His balls down the line we're generally pretty good... Which makes it more annoying that his crossing was so poor.
This doesn't really show that Shaw has more quality. Shows he's a better passer, but suggesting that's the only measure of quality is a disservice to defensive qualities. Tackling, duels and interceptions are not simply a result of 'trying'.Confirms what my eyes tend to tell me, Shaw has more quality but is simply less arsed. When it comes to actually trying to make the most of their talents, Shaw seems often happy to just drift along and do the least possible. Such a shame.
No they aren’t, but with Shaw they clearly are. He’s the perfect example of a footballer playing within himself.This doesn't really show that Shaw has more quality. Shows he's a better passer, but suggesting that's the only measure of quality is a disservice to defensive qualities. Tackling, duels and interceptions are not simply a result of 'trying'.
Think it's a tactical instruction. Dalot doesn't do that and he often comes inside.he needs to stop crossing from such deep positions.
he should really model his game on robertson to see the sort of positions he gets into and crosses from.
the way he does it now it’s so easy to defend as the defensive line can step forward to meet it, rather than having backward momentum
Telles does it regardless of who is in the team. And sometimes regardless of whether there’s somebody in the box. It’s a sign of a player who doesn’t have the pace or trickery to beat a player and has run out of ideas.Think it's a tactical instruction. Dalot doesn't do that and he often comes inside.
It makes sense because of Ronaldo in the box but he has to deliver it perfectly . We will soon see a header goal from CR7 because Telles has one hell of a left foot.
It goes without even saying reallyShaw is a far better passer of the ball than telles.
Yes. While I'll be the first to knock "passion merchants", a good attitude goes a long way.Looks to be getting better each time I see him. He’s benefiting from a run of games. Good for him. I like him, he’s always seems to have a good attitude.
Damn, looks like eyes can be deceiving. Still not rated him thoughI’ve felt the same every time watching him but weirdly enough he wins 1.84 aerial duels per 90 which puts him in the 84th percentile. Strange!
Even at 85% Shaw is better than Telles. The problem is we've seen Shaw at 50% (at best) for most of this season. However Telles is doing well enough that Shaw will need to get his shit together if he wants his place back, which is a fairly good situation to be in for us.100% Shaw beats 100% Telles. Trouble is, Telles is giving us 100%. We haven't seen it fron Luke this season. So we'll take Telles over 85% Shaw and hope that Luke can find the motivation like most of the others are doing.
Agreed!Telles plays with passion and desire. Gives everything. Today he was so important!
Should be first choice really.
Agreed. Shaw sometimes looks completely switched off. I know Telles isn't Paolo Maldini but, my God, did he look more with it than Shaw did. One of the few who didn't have stage fright.Can people stop saying he’s slow? He isn’t! Offered more in his cameo going forward than Shaw did all match. Also, he has intensity and the right determination
So our German coach plays players because they are English? Yet Wan Bissaka has been dropped recently and Rashford both of which are English?Far better player than Shaw
Shaw plays (like Maguire) only because he is english