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The funny thing is, he's far and away our best CM. He's skillfull, quick, bullish, can pick a pass, tackle, break up play. He's a proper modern CM with defensive abilities as well as great technique and attacking flair.

Any idiot can see that our midfield should always be Ando and any other.
 

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Also, if he can't last the 90 (which I doubt)m why not play him for 60 minutes until we have a nice comfortable lead and take him off? Or would that make too much sense.
 

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Fitness? Fletcher and Scholes barely moved all game.

Injuries? He's not injured right now.
Maybe is not injured because we are using him in a limited capacity, I keep on saying this but I assume he is on a fitness programme to help avoid these injuries. It would certainly explain his current role.
 

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At the start of the season people were debating whether he's actually improved as a player. I would say the answer is quite obvious now. There has been a change in his game. He's affecting matches more consistently these days in comparison to our senior midfielders. As their influence has waned, his has increased. We desperately needed that drive in our midfield.

It's clearly his time to shine now.
 

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The funny thing is, he's far and away our best CM. He's skillfull, quick, bullish, can pick a pass, tackle, break up play. He's a proper modern CM with defensive abilities as well as great technique and attacking flair.

Any idiot can see that our midfield should always be Ando and any other.
Don't think he's shown enough to say that yet. Definitely done enough to get more game time than he has but he still has lots to prove particularly his effectiveness over a whole 90 mins let alone in a run of games.
 

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Also, if he can't last the 90 (which I doubt)m why not play him for 60 minutes until we have a nice comfortable lead and take him off? Or would that make too much sense.
A fully fit Anderson for 30 mins against a tiring QPR might be more effective again.

Does that make sense?

I really want to see him become our 1st choice midfielder. But let's try to understand why he is being used the way he is rather than moan and groan.
 

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Maybe is not injured because we are using him in a limited capacity, I keep on saying this but I assume he is on a fitness programme to help avoid these injuries. It would certainly explain his current role.
Fair point. I can't see any other reason for playing him so little. I think he's started just ONE game in the premier league which, given the way he's been playing, is absurd. Hopefully that's the reason rather than anything else.
 

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Maybe is not injured because we are using him in a limited capacity, I keep on saying this but I assume he is on a fitness programme to help avoid these injuries. It would certainly explain his current role.
Can only assume Cleverley has been on something similar, both out for a stretch last season with injuries. Keep em fit, keep them training and improving. If they aren't playing more in the new year then something is horribly wrong.
 

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A fully fit Anderson for 30 mins against a tiring QPR might be more effective again.

Does that make sense?

I really want to see him become our 1st choice midfielder. But let's try to understand why he is being used the way he is rather than moan and groan.
As I said earlier, we have to compare him to those who do start. I can't see how he wouldn't have done far far better had he started than those who actually did.
 

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The sad thing is, the only thing this performance will reaffirm for Ferguson is not that he'a clearly making a case for his place in midfield, rather that Anderson is a useful player to make an impact.
 

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Don't think he's shown enough to say that yet. Definitely done enough to get more game time than he has but he still has lots to prove particularly his effectiveness over a whole 90 mins let alone in a run of games.
There's some logic in that for sure, but what I would say is, that type of performance is what he's capable of week in week out if he stays injury free and is actually given a proper run of games. Lets face it, though, even at his worst he's never been as bad as that midfield display was today.

The simple fact is, that he is an improvement on any of our other midfielders.
Bar Scholes' passing and vision, Anderson eclipses every other one of our midfield players in every department.
 

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He made our entire team tick. The defenders were looking up to him to guide the ball forward, whereas the strikers were finally getting some good balls from the midfield through his passes. Played like a leader today, didn't stop running for a second.
 

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I love Anderson, always have, but if you look through threads concerning him you'll find so many wanting him fecked off long ago, with Ferguson criticised for sticking with him, now he's the answer to our prayers and Fergie is an idiot for not starting him.

Hard to win at football isn't it?
 

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A fully fit Anderson for 30 mins against a tiring QPR might be more effective again.

Does that make sense?

I really want to see him become our 1st choice midfielder. But let's try to understand why he is being used the way he is rather than moan and groan.
That makes sense, but then he has only started in dead rubber games (like galatasaray). Why risk him in those pointless games and then have him on the bench when it really matters? He's shown it time and time again is season, that whenever he has played, he has been our best midfielder. Surely he should be saved for the games in the league, and use the likes of scholes and giggs in the dead rubber games, alongside players like Powell?

Again, I'd understand if he was being used sparingly to save him from getting injured, but the fact that he hardly plays in the league but starts pointless games is just plain stupid.
 

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Reminds me of Tevez the way he runs. Was class when he came on.
 

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Very good cameo from him today. If it's earned him a start on Wednesday he needs to grab the opportunity.
 

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I love Anderson, always have, but if you look through threads concerning him you'll find so many wanting him fecked off long ago, with Ferguson criticised for sticking with him, now he's the answer to our prayers and Fergie is an idiot for not starting him.

Hard to win at football isn't it?
Well there have been people like myself and yourself, who thought he was the answer to our midfield problems all along. I'd never say Fergie is an idiot but i do question why he persists in picking midfield combinations that are proven to be shit, time and time again.

If Scholes is to play, it can't be in a 2 and most certainly can't be with an other slow player, who sits back. Same with Giggs. I have no problem with either of the legends getting a game, they still have a lot to offer but not at the same time and not in a midfield two.
 

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"We only played for 10 minutes and those 10 minutes were brilliant. I thought Anderson changed the game for us." SAF or has this been posted
 

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his driving runs..ability to tackle and win the ball...pressing players...and last but not least, his killer passes....imo makes him an automatic starter.

But I do see him struggle with fitness and injuries.

If he is consistent....he will make his position in the starting 11 automatic.
 

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Think SAF managing him very well, easing him into the season to sort out his fitness issues as if he can perform for 90 mins at the standards required of him (and that he shows off on occasion).

He will be critical for us at the business end of the season. But he needs to prove he can consistently boss a game for 90 mins instead of his once in a while, wonderful cameo's.
 

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Think SAF managing him very well, easing him into the season to sort out his fitness issues as if he can perform for 90 mins at the standards required of him (and that he shows off on occasion).

He will be critical for us at the business end of the season. But he needs to prove he can consistently boss a game for 90 mins instead of his once in a while, wonderful cameo's.
Why does he need to do that? Are you seeing the present starters "bossing a game for 90 minutes"?
 

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I think carrick is criminally under rated on here.
Carrick is a non flashy midfielder. And when he's off form it feels like he's the most terrible player in the planet.

And we should keep on playing Anderson before he hits his yearly dip in form.
 

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I think carrick is criminally under rated on here.
That's all well and good but it didn't answer my question. He hasn't really bossed any games this season. He's been, laregely, poor this season.
 

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Anderson was a beast when he came on!

He should start a few games for us now, hopefully
 

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Made all the difference today. Has been in very good form for most of the season when he has featured. However, we have seen this type of thing before and I will reserve judgement till he has played a full season without injuries or drop in form. Nonetheless, the lad deserves a start over Giggs/Scholes. He just takes us out of the zombie passing and brings another dimension to the team. Someone who can actually run with the ball and beat a defender.
 

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I think carrick is criminally under rated on here.
True but not even Carrick's been bossing teams, he's not that kinda CM either way. Ando deserves his opportunity. He's easily our best CM right now in terms of form. Even if he can't play a full 90 he should start IMO. I'd like to see Carrick & Ando partnership again. I always liked it.
 

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He was awesome, but I am still left thinking he could be so much better if he just had the right mentality both on and off the pitch.

He's got all the right tools to become truly great, but he only seems to take advantage of it now and again. And he still looks too lazy off the ball for me.
 

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As I said earlier, I didn't see the second half today so bare than in mind when I say this:

My only problem with Anderson is that he doesn't use his pace enough. I'd say he has one of the best acceleration ability in the squad, and he's one quick bastard as well. I'm amazed he doesn't use it more often - that's the area that I see which I can relate to Top's comment that he seems lazy at times.
 

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I think carrick is criminally under rated on here.
Always has been, and always gets slated whenever we dont play well as a unit. Hes the favorite scapegoat of the Caf.

Hes not been at his best this season but has still been decent. Its not like Cleverley has been that much better than him, yet some posters seem to be of the opinion that he should be permanently dropped and that Clev/Ando midfield two will dominate all opposition.

That being said, I also think Anderson deserves more game time. Ive always been a fan, and now hes starting to string together good performances one after another. Id really like a Carrick - Anderson midfield duo. Theoretically it should allow Ando to do his offensive runs without fear of leaving too much space for the opposition, letting Carrick have the main defensive job.
 

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Optimally Id like SAF to go back to the diamond we used a couple games. That would allow us to use Anderson and Cleverley to full effect and stop relying on our misfiring wingers. Welbeck also fits way better into a diamond formation than shunted out on the wing where he isnt very good.
 

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Think SAF managing him very well, easing him into the season to sort out his fitness issues as if he can perform for 90 mins at the standards required of him (and that he shows off on occasion).

He will be critical for us at the business end of the season. But he needs to prove he can consistently boss a game for 90 mins instead of his once in a while, wonderful cameo's.
How exactly is he supposed to do that with ONE League start all season? He needs to be given a chance to prove he can do it.
 
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