Officially "rested", I think. We'll probably know more based on who gets picked in the Lyon second leg.
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Season Average Rating
- Appearances
- 50
- Clean sheets
- 11
- Goals
- 0
- Assists
- 0
- Yellow cards
- 1
I hope that's why.
He won't leave by choice, he is too proud for that and wouldn't accept that. He can look at other players who went through it but came back strong even in this squad such as Maguire
I don't think he is good enough but I'd be floored if he just packed his bags and left. The only reason I think he would even consider it is cos of what happened to his wife which then isn't football related
I don't think he is good enough but I'd be floored if he just packed his bags and left. The only reason I think he would even consider it is cos of what happened to his wife which then isn't football related
He’ll leave because he’ll be told point blank the manager wants to move on
He won't leave, like so many of our players, because he's been given a contract to die for that he could never get elsewhere.
He dropped the ball, yes.
He is only on 120k per week, which is not crazy money for a player at a big club in this day and age.
Is there a redemption arc for Onana or is it curtains?
His genuinely a bad keeper. Maybe at a City or Liverpool he’d survive a bit longer but then he’d likely cost them in CL SF or Finals.
Even his “great saves” look at them, there is an awkwardness to them that comes from him being a poor shotstopper and lacking technique. It’s akin to the guy that just toe punts shots and scores in 5a side
The Newcastle game is absolutely not arguably the easiest of those games.
It’s more than double what Inter deemed he was worth. (And they got him as a free agent)
How many clubs out there go around giving these kind of wages to random goalkeepers ?
The terrible goals we conceeded today proved that is not all Onana's fault that we conceed so many terrible goals, our defending is absoutely attrocious
No not all is his fault, just his 30 total feck ups in 2 seasons. Bayindir tries to catch up by all acounts.
“Only 120k a week”It’s more than double what Inter deemed he was worth. (And they got him as a free agent)
How many clubs out there go around giving these kind of wages to random goalkeepers ?
I bet he was worried how much we were paying our previous GK though.
Honestly don't think replacing Onana with Bayindir/Heaton will improve the situation
I watched Bayindir in Euro and all the games he played in the Cup, i can say that his only solid performance was against Arsenal
He was fragile and poor with his feet, look at his error against Newcastle, 1st start in PL, 4 goals conceded and an error leading to goal
Heaton is 38 and hasn't been playing for 2 years which an obvious representation of his level today
It's not because Amorim knows nothing about it but it looks closer to Amorim has no better alternative now
United will obviously go for a goalkeeper this summer
In all fairness, his error was for the fourth goal which wouldn't have changed the result. He couldn't have done much about the other 3, so 4 goals conceded feels like a harsh criticism.
I kind of expected this, even if Bayındır made 0 mistakes the "Well, Onana is better than the rest, so let's go with him." narrative to start spinning.
For myself, I couldn't care less, even if we throw Mount in goal. I just don't want to see Onana there. If it's Bayındır, Mount, heck - Hojlund, at least it will be somewhat of unknown outcome. With Onana - we all know what's going to happen.
I've genuinely never expected him to be this bad, but it is what it is. We either reward him again for his costly mistakes, sending the wrong message to everyone at the club, or we bench him for the rest of the season.
For myself, I couldn't care less, even if we throw Mount in goal. I just don't want to see Onana there. If it's Bayındır, Mount, heck - Hojlund, at least it will be somewhat of unknown outcome. With Onana - we all know what's going to happen.
I've genuinely never expected him to be this bad, but it is what it is. We either reward him again for his costly mistakes, sending the wrong message to everyone at the club, or we bench him for the rest of the season.
Bit of a re-write that. Sure, he saved the penalty against Copenhagen, but lets not completely ignore all the mistakes he made for the goals that we actually let in and the setbacks it caused. We didn't need the goalkeeper to win the matches for us, we just didn't need the goalkeeper to essentially throw the ball into his own fecking net.,
I have a suspicion that the nonsense with Matic will have pissed off the manager, and even the higher ups. I feel a bit sorry for Onana, to be sure. Big challenge, I think, for Amorim to try and get his head right. OnI tana has this instinct for trying to get out ahead of a story, he was very quick in the ETH era to come out and talk about his mistakes. Everyone gets nervous, and its all about handling it. You could see that clearly in the Golf last night. Nerves of steel required
It’s more than double what Inter deemed he was worth. (And they got him as a free agent)
How many clubs out there go around giving these kind of wages to random goalkeepers ?
Seriously. Why do we keep giving new signings these big wages, when they haven't done anything of note for the club? Performance based wages should be where it's at.
If players don't want to come because we refuse to double their current salaries, we should be glad, because they've shown why they're not the kind of players we should be signing.
Identify up-and-coming players, pay them reasonable wages, add in performance bonuses and go from there.
He's been like this since he arrived nearly 2 years ago, so he has to go.
He has to go...
The Newcastle 2nd goalkeeper we had loaned is a better fit than this guy..
Is he better than Karius ?
The Newcastle 2nd goalkeeper we had loaned is a better fit than this guy..
Is he better than Karius ?
I doubt the nonsense with Matic in itself bothers anyone.
Giving away two goals after responding to the comments is a different matter.
There's always going to be mistakes, Ederson has made plenty, Alisson has made plenty, but they still have the confidence to play to their strengths and ignore the past. Schmeichel would make a mistake and blame everyone else for it. You just get on with it, shit happens.
If he's here next season I genuinely won't watch us.
His individual errors are all his fault
At this point I'm expecting him to be a comedic actor doing a bit.
It's quite clear that his back and forth with Matic last week, followed by his categorically horrendous performance on the pitch straight after said back and forth, has NOT gone down well with Amorim and/or the football front office.
I commented on this thread after his comments last week, stating that the press office that have allowed him to do this (if they had a say) need to be reprimanded, because this is not what should be happening at one of the biggest clubs in world football, especially when we are currently in the middle-end of our worst Premier League era in the clubs history. This shouldn't have happened and the club should've had way more input and prevented him making retaliation comments throughout the build up to the fixture. Especially when they know as well as we all do, that Onana is a complete calamity of a goalkeeper and added pressure on the team and him will do us no favours, let alone the added boost of spirit it would've given the OL squad. It's like something you'd see over the Atlantic with their sports dramas and soap opera-esque way of doing things. (Ps, I follow US sports and I an avid NFL and NBA fan, I don't mind it over there, but it doesn't belong in football)
I'm incredibly glad that this muppet was left at home yesterday evening and to be perfectly honest, I hope he stays there until the end of the season and we never see him don the shirt again. Amorim has done a good job so far in removing the poison from the dressing room (Rashford), so there is not a single reason that Onana should not receive the same sort of treatment.
Onana may truly be one of the most arrogant goalkeepers, with zero talent, that I've ever seen on a football pitch. During the last international break, Cameroon had a free kick around 25-30yrds from goal and this guy is out of his box and stood next to the Cameroonian free kick taker, pointing and advising him on what to do. Have you ever seen a GOALKEEPER do that in your time watching this sport? I as a person in their 30's, have not.
I'm so incredibly furious that this useless cnut has now put us in a position where we have no choice but to look for a goalkeeper this Summer, when so many other positions on the pitch are also of concern. He's just added to the already steaming hot fire that we need to fight and I'm so angry. The damage that ETH has done to this club is quite literally irrefutable and the fact that I occasionally see his name pop up here and there regarding his tenure at the club and the 'positives' is actually baffling. I couldn't give a monkeys about the trophies he won, when the players that he left in his wake are some of the worst in World Football, to the point where they almost have no sell on value at all. FYI, the transfers we made this Summer (Ugarte, MdL etc) are not his signings, they were the front office'.
I commented on this thread after his comments last week, stating that the press office that have allowed him to do this (if they had a say) need to be reprimanded, because this is not what should be happening at one of the biggest clubs in world football, especially when we are currently in the middle-end of our worst Premier League era in the clubs history. This shouldn't have happened and the club should've had way more input and prevented him making retaliation comments throughout the build up to the fixture. Especially when they know as well as we all do, that Onana is a complete calamity of a goalkeeper and added pressure on the team and him will do us no favours, let alone the added boost of spirit it would've given the OL squad. It's like something you'd see over the Atlantic with their sports dramas and soap opera-esque way of doing things. (Ps, I follow US sports and I an avid NFL and NBA fan, I don't mind it over there, but it doesn't belong in football)
I'm incredibly glad that this muppet was left at home yesterday evening and to be perfectly honest, I hope he stays there until the end of the season and we never see him don the shirt again. Amorim has done a good job so far in removing the poison from the dressing room (Rashford), so there is not a single reason that Onana should not receive the same sort of treatment.
Onana may truly be one of the most arrogant goalkeepers, with zero talent, that I've ever seen on a football pitch. During the last international break, Cameroon had a free kick around 25-30yrds from goal and this guy is out of his box and stood next to the Cameroonian free kick taker, pointing and advising him on what to do. Have you ever seen a GOALKEEPER do that in your time watching this sport? I as a person in their 30's, have not.
I'm so incredibly furious that this useless cnut has now put us in a position where we have no choice but to look for a goalkeeper this Summer, when so many other positions on the pitch are also of concern. He's just added to the already steaming hot fire that we need to fight and I'm so angry. The damage that ETH has done to this club is quite literally irrefutable and the fact that I occasionally see his name pop up here and there regarding his tenure at the club and the 'positives' is actually baffling. I couldn't give a monkeys about the trophies he won, when the players that he left in his wake are some of the worst in World Football, to the point where they almost have no sell on value at all. FYI, the transfers we made this Summer (Ugarte, MdL etc) are not his signings, they were the front office'.
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Hopefully Big Jim sees this and begins the sale process.
Hoping for that summer Saudi bid
Ye but when Onana is in net the defence is actually better but he lets the defence down by parrying it to opponents or dropping the ball
Is it? Or was it just the fact Amorim rested Casemiro, Maguire and Dorgu?
Two truths can coexist — Bayındır isn't great either. But I can't stand Onana anymore. At least Bayındır hasn’t played enough to piss me off the same way.
I get wanting bayindir in net just because it would be something different and he hasn't proven to be inadequate in the same way. But Amorim sees more of him in a week than i have all season, it wont be a novelty for him. If he picks Onana its because hes better than Bayindir. And if Bayindir isn't good enough to take Onana's place at the moment then he isn't good enough to be at the club.
We have been solid recently. For whatever reason we just collapsed yesterday. Maybe it’s the Casemiro Ugarte pivot that helps us be more solid but then we lack creativity and progression going forward. Onana is 100% responsible for a lot of our goals. Even the one against Ipswich which was similar to the freekick Lyon scored. He can never save them
Hopefully big transfer sum or at least any amount that can help us get a replacement without having to compromise others spots that are also needed.
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It goes together with the stupid fees we are paying. You can’t expect we pay the selling club 50m and the player’s agent to accept 60k a week.
Did you not see Bayindir palm a straight forward save straight to a Newcastle player in our 6 yard box yesterday?
Think he suffers from the same virus that Højlund is infected with. They completely lost their mojo and looks to have no confidence in their own abilities, and thus they hesitate. Onana has qualities, but he’s a long way from displaying them atm. Even a 30 yard pass to a wingback often goes out of play. Bisarre.
So who do we start in net against Lille on Thursday. Neither option fills me with confidence.
Onana will start
Bayindir is just absolutely terrible