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Front four for League Cup games this year (hopefully):
---------Wilson
Depay--Pereira--Januzaj
Very interchangeable.
---------Wilson
Depay--Pereira--Januzaj
Very interchangeable.
That seems entirely plausible mate. However, Van Gaal has certain short term sporting targets to meet, especially after spending big amounts of money - with more to come this summer. Which ultimately might mean fewer opportunities (and less margin for error) for the likes of Andreas this coming season. We've seen Januzaj's progression come to a standstill with infrequent first team playing time combined with inconsistency (which Van Gaal often abhors), so I'm a bit wary of the whole situation recurring.I think Van Gaal has mentioned this a few times but Pereira is pretty much considered a squad member of the first team now. Also it seemed the reasoning to why he took so long to sign the contact extension was because of the worry of not getting any chances at the first team. You would have to image that with him signing the extension he's pretty confident of getting chances next season.
No gif of the goal?
https://www.redcafe.net/threads/fifa-u-20-world-cup-2015.405236/page-5#post-17671810
What a goal.
That is just bullshit, why would you like to exaggerate like that? Is Fosuh-Mensah more talented than James Wilson or Sam Johnstone? they are different players, having different talent. Pereira is very versatile and could play almost any position, has certainly better shot than Januzaj and I feel his footwork is also better, more dynamic and better working player, Januzaj has a great vision and directness in him both are great playmakers but from different positions, they need also different positions o play in right now, Pereira will eventually play deeper than Januzaj who will later be used as free roaming attacking player I feel.Ain't good enough to get a look in at United is what I mean. His passing even further forward lets him down too many times. Januzaj's passing and vision was on a different level when he was a regular in the team under Moyes. Consistency isn't the issue not that Januzaj can be described as consistent either. Januzaj just looks far far more talented.
I actually think his best chance of making it will be as a #8 not further forward.
I would argue that the Januzaj situation is a bit different (Januzaj has been a bit shit this season).But Van Gaal has shown a number of times this season that even when the pressure's is on he is willing to play youth players. And now already now Van Gaal has said he will be taking youth players on the summer tour(Rumours of a couple of U18's players going)And this summer tour is more important than most considering we've got CL qualifiers coming up. Lack of opportunities won't be a problem with Van Gaal as managerThat seems entirely plausible mate. However, Van Gaal has certain short term sporting targets to meet, especially after spending big amounts of money - with more to come this summer. Which ultimately might mean fewer opportunities (and less margin for error) for the likes of Andreas this coming season. We've seen Januzaj's progression come to a standstill with infrequent first team playing time combined with inconsistency (which Van Gaal often abhors), so I'm a bit wary of the whole situation recurring.
Yep to have a state of flux situation where a player is clearly too good for U21's but getting no game time is a concern(It's really the situation with Januzaj now)but it would on the player to turn it around, Januzaj did get chances this season but didn't take them(Not for the lack of trying mind)and Mata/Young did. As for understanding of Van Gaal's requirements. Pereira has trained with the first team for pretty much the whole season and being picked a couple of times this season. So that shouldn't be a problemIf the likes of Pereira aren't regularly turning out for the first team, Louis will inevitably stick them in the reserves, which isn't the greatest level of competition by all means (as opposed to a season long loan at say PSV - who are expected to contend for the title, and play a similar scheme as Van Gaal under Cocu). On some levels, retaining players on the cusp of first team football at United does make sense. They'll slowly be integrated into the team, will have a much better understanding of Van Gaal's requirements etc.
I'll be honest I'm not a massive fan of the loan system.The main reason being your first point,managers tend not to pick young players when the pressure is on and almost always fall back on 'experience'. Is this different in Holland, I haven't got a clue but PSV will be in the CL this season and trying to defend their league title, the pressure will be on. Also if Pereira talented enough to get into United's first team and make a difference.But at the same time, this is a very critical stage in Pereira's development, especially in terms of playing time. He is going to turn 20 this season, and sitting on the bench (like he did last season) or turning out for the reserves won't really push him forward. Not discounting either scenario (retained - most likely vs loaned), but sometimes a good loan move can help a player find his bearings, become more consistent, and gain more confidence in terms of playing first team football.
Like Pique for example, who really progressed in his time at Zaragoza, or Wilshere at Bolton, Evans at Sunderland, Kroos at Leverkusen, even Welbeck at Sunderland for that matter.
Very good goal. Almost certain we'll see a fair chunk of him this season.
Fair enough. Here's the thing though - while Januzaj has been inconsistent for the first team, and Pereira has been mint for the reserves (by and large) - the step up in terms of quality on a week by week basis is substantial. What happened with Januzaj this season in terms of below par decision-making and trying entirely too much, might happen with Pereira too given his propensity to take charge, and play with a sense of adventure and artistic freedom.I would argue that the Januzaj situation is a bit different (Januzaj has been a bit shit this season).But Van Gaal has shown a number of times this season that even when the pressure's is on he is willing to play youth players. And now already now Van Gaal has said he will be taking youth players on the summer tour(Rumours of a couple of U18's players going)And this summer tour is more important than most considering we've got CL qualifiers coming up. Lack of opportunities won't be a problem with Van Gaal as manager
Don't necessarily disagree with any of that. But again, there's a degree of speculation at play here. We can't say one way or another if adapting to regular first team action will be a problem for Pereira (or not). What if Pereira doesn't make the most his chances ? It would be unacceptable at United, but some other clubs might be willing to persist with him given thei dearth of quality options at their disposal (when compared with United). That's my sole argument here, though to be fair - it too is speculative in some ways.Yep to have a state of flux situation where a player is clearly too good for U21's but getting no game time is a concern(It's really the situation with Januzaj now)but it would on the player to turn it around, Januzaj did get chances this season but didn't take them(Not for the lack of trying mind)and Mata/Young did. As for understanding of Van Gaal's requirements. Pereira has trained with the first team for pretty much the whole season and being picked a couple of times this season. So that shouldn't be a problem
That is why I brought up the specific example of PSV. The second sentence of your paragraph is applicable to United, and generally most clubs in the Premier League/ La Liga/ Serie A. But Eredivisie clubs are much more receptive to the idea of persisting with young players, given their weaker resources and lack of experienced options. And that argument is somewhat vindicated by the development of the likes of Klaassen, Kishna, El Ghazi, Sinkgraven at Ajax; or Van Beek, Kongolo at Feyenoord; or Rekik, Willems, Hendrix at PSV who were given regular chances to develop despite inconsistent performances. A good example for a loan deal working out really well would be Arkadiusz Milik from Leverkusen to Ajax. This is someone who couldn't get adequate playing time at the former, but really shone - scoring 11 goals, and making 21 league appearances for the latter under De Boer.I'll be honest I'm not a massive fan of the loan system.The main reason being your first point,managers tend not to pick young players when the pressure is on and almost always fall back on 'experience'. Is this different in Holland, I haven't got a clue but PSV will be in the CL this season and trying to defend their league title, the pressure will be on. Also if Pereira talented enough to get into United's first team and make a difference.
Front four for League Cup games this year (hopefully):
---------Wilson
Depay--Pereira--Januzaj
Very interchangeable.
It was Serbias only lapse for the night, they were brilliant defensively throughout the game. Therefore I put it in the Pereira brilliance.The defending isn't great but his touch and balance for that goal are excellent.
Makes you think who else in our squad could score that sort of goal?. Di Maria or januzaj maybe? Nani too I guess.Brilliant goal, imagine if Messi scored that goal the whole world would lose their shit.
Hope he gets more game time next season, very promising youth.
Depay !Makes you think who else in our squad could score that sort of goal?. Di Maria or januzaj maybe? Nani too I guess.
Don't think the tour starts for another 4-5 weeks.should be back in training in 4-5 weeks time, maybe..are we still in the US by then?
it's essential that he does. it's so important for players to be involved right from the off, especially for young players trying to break into the first team.Considering he's only just started his summer break, is it even reasonable to expect him to go on tour?
Yep we saw how lingard impressed on tour and got his chance, hopefully pereira gets that chance too.it's essential that he does. it's so important for players to be involved right from the off, especially for young players trying to break into the first team.