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If these are his quiet games then I'll take it, but it would be unacceptable as his norm
I believe he will do well on Saturday and if he doesn't, then I'll start taking those inconsistent jabs at him more seriously
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If these are his quiet games then I'll take it, but it would be unacceptable as his norm
I believe he will do well on Saturday and if he doesn't, then I'll start taking those inconsistent jabs at him more seriously
I think that’s a fair comment. I don’t think his performance against Spurs was all that bad anyway. He’s had many more quieter, less effective performances that’s for sure. He did some good stuff at the weekend.
Top post, explained everything perfectly
Top post.
I would like to see him in a role like Ronaldo in Madrid in his last years. Starting from width and sliding back to it, but frequently occupy the room next to a center forward (Lukaku). I think Martial has a good punch and the technical abilities to fulfill this role. I am a advocate for the view, that a good team needs at least two decent scorers in their squad. If you have them, they should be in the most dangerous zones on the pitch quit often.
We've (finally) a functioning attack, of which Martial is a crucial part. It's as silly to disregard his contribution to this over the last few weeks (and to give Rashers all the credit) as it is to write off Matic's contribution to our suddenly effective midfield and give all the credit to Pogba, who has been the one attracting the kudos. We're a team again and everyone is contributing. Our standouts at the moment, Lindelof at the back, Pogba and Rashford, won't always be our standouts but the point is that everyone s contributing.
Still joint top scorer for us as a winger. First hat-trick next game? Sign him up
Re: Dribbling - If you can't see it during games, there's many compilations you could refer to, but here are some
Is he the finished product? No, he's a 23-yr old kid learning his trade, but he's the most naturally gifted player at the club.
The thing with Sanchez is (at least the United version) that he's very imprecise with the ball. Keeps giftin it away, keeps trying things that don't come off, etc. Unfortunately, he's going to have to be an impact player from the bench, not a regular starter.
You mean the Southampton guy?
You could say that Pogba was guilty of that under Mourinho, and that was put down to Mourinho putting the shackles on him and that he'd no movement ahead of him in that system. Under Ole he's been much better. We've only seen Sanchez play with the proper 11 for 20 minutes under Ole and he got an assist. Why can't the same excuses be made for Sanchez?
Because with Pogba, despite the horrendous performances, you could see his brilliance (Everton away, Arsenal away, City away etc). Sanchez just seems perpetually clumsy or injured.
I'd love for him to come back and prove me wrong, but I think we bought a lemon.
I'd love for him to come back and prove me wrong, but I think we bought a lemon.
Ya I'd agree with that but I don't think Sanchez has been as bad as people make out, Spurs in the cup last year, City away, Liverpool at home and even Juventus away this year I thought he was very good. That's why I think judgement should be held off until he gets a consistant run under Ole. I think Friday week at the Emirates would suit him down to the ground and would be the perfect chance to bring him in.
Martial is undoubtedly talented. I just worry that he seems to be trying to see himself as this great dribbler.. I (personally) think, he's potential and strengths are when he is direct, instinctive and raw... who wants to score all types of goals. All of the time. If I see that desire, hunger... I will be his biggest fan (as I was when he arrived...). I give him a hard time, because he could do so much more. He's young, but he has been at good clubs for a while now. Not writing him off, no way as I think Ole and Phelan will really help him define his game. Interesting to read possible United interest in Cengiz Under' of Roma. Left Footed wide player.....
Thought he was pretty poor overall In this game. Tottenham easily marked him out the game as he did not want to run in behind and leave his wing.
Worried about him as he's not coming to the party. His team play is rather mediocre. He's got an outrageous amount of individual talent but it'll take him no where until he learns to gel with his teammates.
He hasn't hit his stride yet fully under the new system, still seems a little hesitant in a lot of the things he tries. In saying that, his performances, if you look at them objectively, have been good.
He's produced a number of chances per match, has looked relatively threatening with his dribbling and has linked up well with everyone else. He's not setting the world alight, but he's been good. I think the problem is rebuilding his confidence and his identity, he's a mercurial attacking talent and I think Mourinho did his level best to knock that out of him.
Once he does get going, he'll take this team to a new level, of that I'm fairly certain. I think he can be as important to us as Pogba is at the moment. I'm very excited about this team.
He's produced a number of chances per match, has looked relatively threatening with his dribbling and has linked up well with everyone else. He's not setting the world alight, but he's been good. I think the problem is rebuilding his confidence and his identity, he's a mercurial attacking talent and I think Mourinho did his level best to knock that out of him.
Once he does get going, he'll take this team to a new level, of that I'm fairly certain. I think he can be as important to us as Pogba is at the moment. I'm very excited about this team.
what is good about having martial, rashford, and lingard starting as the front 3 is the different ways we can attack. Martial can be direct with ball at feet, lingard moves around a lot and can throw off opponent positioning, and rashford can make those runs in behind. The fluidity has increased exponentially as well compared to having lukaku up there and the static attack we witnessed. No surprise we struggle when we bring back those static type players or lose fluidity trying to peg mata into that RW slot.
You guys are weird. On another day martial gets a goal and an assist and Rashford is the one who doesn't quite influence the match enough. The whole point of having both is they are constantly creating opportunities so one or the other will be the star.
Yes, one thing I love about the trio is that they are three different type of players with different styles, and with Pogba behind them, all four offers something different. Long may it continue.
Actually Squawka gave him 6/10, while Lingard got 7/10 and Rashford 8/10. He got the worst grade out of all the attackers.
By all means back up what you're saying but don't dismiss a subjective opinion because Sqwuaka says so. I had Martial at a 7/10, just because Sqwuaka's number crunching says otherwise, isn't going to change what I witnessed.
The guy is hot and cold and inconsistent. He doesnot show passion and intensity in his game.
8/10 on the ball, 3/10 off it. I spent the 15 seconds before Pogba almost chipped/deflected a 2nd goal over Llloris in like the 55th minute screaming for Martial to move off the ball as Trippier got dragged infield as we played on the center-right channel/half space whatever you call that area of the pitch.
We need a full-time wingers coach to teach Martial how to play off the ball.
We need a full-time wingers coach to teach Martial how to play off the ball.
I don't really agree with your view on it. See the pictures below, his positioning is fine in the situation you are referring to. He's made himself available for the pass, if he moves further in it'll be more difficult to get the ball to him and he'll just crowd an area that's already crowded. If Herrera crosses the ball to him, Trippier will have to move out of position to put pressure on him and that will free up space for Rashford and Pogba to get in behind.
Herrera opts for a easy pass to Lingard who rolls it back to Herrera (2nd pic, Herrera has already received the ball). Herrera moves inwards and plays Pogba (Pic 3). That's the only time Martial should make a run for it, as there's plenty of space behind Trippier, but it's by no means and easy pass to make as Pogba would have to shift the ball over to his left in order to get a decent angle to play him in. There's also the risk of getting hit on the counter attack, we've already committed Pogba, Lingard, Rashford and Young
Look at how he sets up the Pogba chance by playing a one two with Lingard before moving into space behind Trippier to expose Tottenhams defence..
During the majority of the match we had Lingard and Rashford who were putting pressure on Tottenhams defenders when they tried to play the ball out, with Martial positioned slightly behind them to get the ball at his feet and push forward. Not sure why some reckon he had a poor game, or how he's not suited to the way we're playing, he sets up Rashford nicely in the 11th min, sets up Pogba nicely in the second half, a better pass from Lingard and he's one on one with Lloris, a pass from Lingard in the first half instead of him taking a shot and it's a free shot at goal from close distance. Margins in a match where he could've easily had an assist and a goal
We've got a front 3 that's functioning very well together, where all of them are rotating positions and getting into goalscoring positions (and providing key passes), not sure what people are complaining about.
Needs to be our false 9 to unlock his full abilities. He likes to play deeper and centrally rather than wider and in behind the defence.
I dont think he will get the chance until Sanchez gets form or Greenwood makes the step up eventually.
I dont think he will get the chance until Sanchez gets form or Greenwood makes the step up eventually.
https://mobile.twitter.com/hs_10ftbol/status/1085314796118048768?s=21
A small video that shows his creativity but isn't often noticed because the chances weren't converted and resulted in goals.
So those wondering what Martial does in his "quiet" games if he doesn't score or assist should take a look.
A small video that shows his creativity but isn't often noticed because the chances weren't converted and resulted in goals.
So those wondering what Martial does in his "quiet" games if he doesn't score or assist should take a look.
Martial arts
I don't really know how people are missing these things. Some tasty bits of creative play there.
I'm not sure how people can watch us play and doubt him. Our undisputed best winger and should always be first choice for the LW.
What irks me the most at this video is that he rarely follows up.
He delivers the pass, and then remains standing.
That is ssomething our coaching staff should work on.
He's brilliant, he just needs to work 10% more!
That 10% would mean he would follow up on this and probably find himself in a goal scoring opportunity more often then not. Pick the scraps.
He delivers the pass, and then remains standing.
That is ssomething our coaching staff should work on.
He's brilliant, he just needs to work 10% more!
That 10% would mean he would follow up on this and probably find himself in a goal scoring opportunity more often then not. Pick the scraps.
Yeah, fair enough, I'm one of his biggest fans and this is something I notice as well
Watched this few mins back, it's a very good video which shows other aspects of his game. He is not just a dribble, dribble player. He has good eye for the pass in final third.
The good thing is he now has a coach that will cost his game, not just give him tactical instructions.
But I think his creativity is underrated. For such a skilful player, he's very unselfish.
But I think his creativity is underrated. For such a skilful player, he's very unselfish.
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This made me wonder, what was it like back then when we had Rooney and Ronaldo? I wasn't aware of caf back then.
Exactly. I don't know if any team fans have these FCs. Martial and Rashford are both young players with so much potential. They are playing together now, instead of competing for 1 position.
Rashford fans think Martial lacks mentality, Martial fans think Rashford lacks technical ability or nowhere near Martial level talent. Well both are just wrong. They are very close to each other when it comes to talent and their impact on pitch.
Yes, Can't remember any Rooney v Ronaldo FC trolling each other in numbers. These people need to wake up. Jose is gone. We no longer have to choose one or the other. They aren't even competing for the same position any more. How can fans of a club be rooting against productive youngsters? The remnant's of Jose's toxicity will linger for a year or 2 because the Pogba, Shaw, Martial and Rashford threads have boneheads waiting to start a hate circlejerk after every average game
Fans of Martial and Rashford thinks that life is good. And bonus, Lingard is doing well too.
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