Antoine "Lebron" Griezmann | "I Stay"

[MadDogg]

It doesn't really make any sense to be marketing. They've already landed the sponsorship which is going to be seen by millions of people around the world who watch United in the coming 3 seasons.

Why would they go out of their way to lie about a rumour and piss off countless United fans who then think 'THE cnuts LIED ABOUT GRIEZMANN, feck KOHLER!'.

Nobody is going to blame them though. Why would they, when everyone knows that the much more likely scenario is that it's some random who learnt about the deal somehow and decided to make a name for himself. Despite me saying I wonder if it's the case, I certainly don't believe it is. It's a small possibility so the thought is there, but that's about it.

That random reddit user had been posting on thr united reddit for months if not years. Pretty epic plant to influence a couple thousand united fans.

Could've bought the account, or could belong to someone in marketing who owns the account (if they are a Utd fan then it makes it more likely that they were pushing the company to sponsor us). But yeah, it's just me wondering about something that would be quite clever from them, but it's certainly unlikely to actually be the case.

 

[SSSSnake]

I have a weird feeling about this. Hope he bloody announces it soon. Personally I don’t hold it against him staying one more year at AM. The guy pisses quality and I imagine him linking up with Rom so well.

 

[Fer]

Believe me I would love Toby, Sandro and Sidibe/Meunier but at the same l, I don't think buying a young CM for 10-20 Mill would have massively changed our transfer plans.
But now I feel our transfer plans have changed.
Castles said the same thing in his podcast. We were not expecting a player of the quality of Bale to be available while we were making plans for the summer.
Also I don't believe that Mourinho was playing games with the media when he said we won't be signing any attackers as he has been very open about our transfers.

I feel Dalot could be a part of this change in priorities or re allocation of funds.
Same with Lengelt rumors and there were even whispers of Telles.
Maybe our initial plan was to buy Sidibe + Sandro + Alderweireld for a total of 150 million and sell Darmian + Blind and maybe Shaw for 50 million.
But maybe after Bale's comments we have shifted our focus to Dalot + Lengelt + Telles, all three combined would cost 19+30+30 = 80 million pounds, thus saving 70 million
So even if Madrid want 100 mill Euros (88 million pounds) for Bale, we have almost balanced the books and managed to stay within our budget at the same time filling all the holes in our squad.
Also if it's between Bale and Griezmann for almost the same money, I'm 100% sure Woody and the Board would go for Bale over Griezmann
We have been after him for ages and the marketing potential would be huge, even more than that with Griezzmann. Also I'm sure Adidas would prefer us signing Bale.

If that's the case, I don't know which I would prefer.
Toby + Sandro + Sidibe or Lengelt + Telles + Dalot + Bale/Griezmann.
Nope, I'm sure I prefer the second option.

Sorry for derailing the thread.

Bale is a better player than Griezmann. The only concerns are age, injury prone and high wages. However, he would fit better in our team than Griezmann. We lack of width in our right wing, and Valencia/Dalot are not going to solve that problem next season.

I agree on your 2nd option, but I would sign De Ligt and Tierney instead.

In your 1st option, it wouldn't be so bad if we sign a young RW like Pulisic/Bailey instead of spending a lot of money on Bale.

BTW, you are right about Adidas. That's a good point. It could be an important factor at the end of the day.

 

[gr3yham3]

I have a weird feeling about this. Hope he bloody announces it soon. Personally I don’t hold it against him staying one more year at AM. The guy pisses quality and I imagine him linking up with Rom so well.

Not to mention Pogba seems to be his BFF when on French team duty.

 

[gr3yham3]

Bale is a better player than Griezmann. The only concerns are age, injury prone and high wages. However, he would fit better in our team than Griezmann. We lack of width in our right wing, and Valencia/Dalot are not going to solve that problem next season.

I agree on your 2nd option, but I would sign De Ligt and Tierney instead.

In your 1st option, it wouldn't be so bad if we sign a young RW like Pulisic/Bailey instead of spending a lot of money on Bale.

BTW, you are right about Adidas. That's a good point. It could be an important factor at the end of the day.

Will Bale want to leave now with Zidane gone though? If Griezmann comes we could see a shift in formation to a 4312 since we will have no real wingers. We did this before in one of the UCL matches last season right? Martial with Lukaku upfront?

 

[ayushreddevil9]

Forgot about him !!


Atletico in on Lemar too to play behind Costa + a potential Cavani.

Griezmann out ?

GriezmONn mk ll

 

[SSSSnake]

Not to mention Pogba seems to be his BFF when on French team duty.

Yep true that. They could all flourish with him being the final piece of the puzzle. Our attack will be very fluid and Griezmann with his quick feet could score/assist 20+ easy. He’s also currently playing in a team that’s a similar set up. Didn’t he score 29 goals or something last season? Mr consistency and a good injury record.

 

[SSSSnake]

Bale is a better player than Griezmann. The only concerns are age, injury prone and high wages. However, he would fit better in our team than Griezmann. We lack of width in our right wing, and Valencia/Dalot are not going to solve that problem next season.

I agree on your 2nd option, but I would sign De Ligt and Tierney instead.

In your 1st option, it wouldn't be so bad if we sign a young RW like Pulisic/Bailey instead of spending a lot of money on Bale.

BTW, you are right about Adidas. That's a good point. It could be an important factor at the end of the day.

For me Griezmann would fit the team better. He’s clever on the ball and has a better footballing brain with more creativity. It’s too much of a gamble paying so much for a injury prone player...not to mention his age also.

Bale wants to stay at RM. I’m sure the new manager will give his assurance over playing time.

 

[Fer]

Will Bale want to leave now with Zidane gone though? If Griezmann comes we could see a shift in formation to a 4312 since we will have no real wingers. We did this before in one of the UCL matches last season right? Martial with Lukaku upfront?

I'm not against 4312 formation. The problem is that we need top fullbacks to make it work. I can't see Valencia/Dalot providing the width and crosses we need next season.

On the other hand, 4312 formation could suit better to our midfielders and attackers.

 

[gr3yham3]

I'm not against 4312 formation. The problem is that we need top fullbacks to make it work. I can't see Valencia/Dalot providing the width and crosses we need next season.

On the other hand, 4312 formation could suit better to our midfielders and attackers.

I think Valencia can provide that width for another season till Dalot takes over. Hopefully he gets more instructions to cross the bloody ball instead of passing it back. One of the CMs could also pull out wide to provide width when needed, like Fred. We do need a proper LB though, someone who can cross with his left.

 

[Sanche7]

Bale is a better player than Griezmann. The only concerns are age, injury prone and high wages. However, he would fit better in our team than Griezmann. We lack of width in our right wing, and Valencia/Dalot are not going to solve that problem next season.

I agree on your 2nd option, but I would sign De Ligt and Tierney instead.

In your 1st option, it wouldn't be so bad if we sign a young RW like Pulisic/Bailey instead of spending a lot of money on Bale.

BTW, you are right about Adidas. That's a good point. It could be an important factor at the end of the day.

If we are indeed cutting corners to save up to bid big for Bale, we won't be buying De Ligt, Skriniar or pavard? as all of them would cost nearly 50 million.
What makes Lengelt a very attractive option is his release clause of 30 million pounds.

Regarding Bale vs Griezmann, it's a tough one.
Bale does fit our squad better but as others have mentioned he doesn't really want to leave Madrid, he's being forced out and he never really wanted to come here. On top of that his age and injury record are worrisome.
Griezmann, I used to like him before his drama last summer and this summer but I feel he would do well in the Lingard/Mata role of attacking the space, finding small pockets of space and stretching the defense.
We can even play 4-2-3-1 in games against smaller teams. Plus I think, he would give it all for the #7 shirt.

 

[Fer]

For me Griezmann would fit the team better. He’s clever on the ball and has a better footballing brain with more creativity. It’s too much of a gamble paying so much for a injury prone player...not to mention his age also.

Bale wants to stay at RM. I’m sure the new manager will give his assurance over playing time.

Griezmann would be a smart buy. He would cost a bit less than Bale and he doesn't have problem with injuries.

If we are going to play 433, IMO Bale (or even Mahrez) would fit better as a right winger than Griezmann. We could solve that by signing top fullbacks to provide width.

 

[suhaylah]

If we are indeed cutting corners to save up to bid big for Bale, we won't be buying De Ligt, Skriniar or pavard? as all of them would cost nearly 50 million.
What makes Lengelt a very attractive option is his release clause of 30 million pounds.

Regarding Bale vs Griezmann, it's a tough one.
Bale does fit our squad better but as others have mentioned he doesn't really want to leave Madrid, he's being forced out and he never really wanted to come here. On top of that his age and injury record are worrisome.
Griezmann, I used to like him before his drama last summer and this summer but I feel he would do well in the Lingard/Mata role of attacking the space, finding small pockets of space and stretching the defense.
We can even play 4-2-3-1 in games against smaller teams. Plus I think, he would give it all for the #7 shirt.

Would Sanchez give up on his number 7.

 

[charlenefan]

Bloody hell 10 new pages since I was last here, all because of an ITK

 

[buchansleftleg]

I can't believe I'm following this thread for a second time...but you've got my dander up now...I think I'm going full muppet again!

 

[pacifictheme]

Nobody is going to blame them though. Why would they, when everyone knows that the much more likely scenario is that it's some random who learnt about the deal somehow and decided to make a name for himself. Despite me saying I wonder if it's the case, I certainly don't believe it is. It's a small possibility so the thought is there, but that's about it.


Could've bought the account, or could belong to someone in marketing who owns the account (if they are a Utd fan then it makes it more likely that they were pushing the company to sponsor us). But yeah, it's just me wondering about something that would be quite clever from them, but it's certainly unlikely to actually be the case.

Arguably less likely than actually signing him.

 

[EyeInTheSky]

If (big if) we sign Griezmann.
Which formation would bring the best of him?

Trapezoid false pentagram

 

[Zoo]

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[Vault Dweller]

No. Can't stand the guy, he's an attention whore. but maybe in a few days.

Who's that Kohler and what's it about btw?

I'm all aboard the train now I must admit

It's the new shirt sleeve sponsor, and a rumour started on Reddit where a guy claiming to have inside knowledge on the Kohler deal (as he worked for them) also claimed the Griezmann ties were legit and United would be signing him. That's the kind of solid information I take to heart

I don't think I could handle this again, it got out of control last year, it wouldn't be good for my me......GRIEZMONNNNN MOTHERfeckERS.

 

[Paxi]

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I cant be fecked listening to him. Anyone be kind enough to post a summary? Are United interested or not?

 

[VP89]

I cant be fecked listening to him. Anyone be kind enough to post a summary? Are United interested or not?

Well from reading his tweet its probably that we aren't involved.

 

[Morpheus 7]

United fans are feeding on scraps with this one, the wee attention seeking prick isn't coming here. Can't wait to this one is closed down, based on a reddit itk with no respected journalist linking us to him, day's before he announces his future. Not even rubbish like the express or Metro are, ain't happening. I don't think he's what we need either.

 

[Paxi]

Well from reading his tweet its probably that we aren't involved.

Righto.

 

[K2K]

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Definitely has an agreement with Barca. Atletico even threatened to report them to FIFA for tapping up.

I think it's just a case of Barca not wanting to pay his full release clause at one go. But I expect him to go there.

 

[Ikon]

For me Griezmann would fit the team better. He’s clever on the ball and has a better footballing brain with more creativity..

I very much share this view.
I envisage Griezmann & Sanchez both buzzing about finding pockets of space, darting inbetween defenders and supporting Lukaku from anywhere across the final third.
Neither are traditional wingers, but I really don't think Mourinho has that type of player in his thoughts anyway.
My belief is that Mourinho's plan would or could accommodate 2 inside forward type of players in a 4-3-3

Lets not overlook the similarities between ourselves and Atletico and how Griezmann slots easily into that system, scoring 25, 32, 26, 29 over the past 4 seasons.
That's a consistently good return for a player in that role.

If we had a fluid front 3 to start of Lukaku, Griezmann & Sanchez, you could reasonably hope for 70 goals from them, then with the likes of Rashford & Martial to interchange with, on paper at least, we should have a very potent goal threat.

 

[0le]

In my mind, big transfer deals always have some rumours before they are announced. As far as I know, there have been no credible journalists linking us to Griezmann so I don't believe this individual on reddit. I think he or she is just mistaken.

 

[Ban]

I'm all aboard the train now I must admit

It's the new shirt sleeve sponsor, and a rumour started on Reddit where a guy claiming to have inside knowledge on the Kohler deal (as he worked for them) also claimed the Griezmann ties were legit and United would be signing him. That's the kind of solid information I take to heart

Will not get sucked in.

 

[Vault Dweller]

Will not get sucked in.

Mate, it's too outlandish and too muppett-ish a rumour to NOT be true

 

[crossy1686]

Will not get sucked in.

I'm in!

Think Barcelona won't go through with any deal of him now as they'll probably end up with a transfer ban again, something I'm sure they would like to avoid.

 

[Sassy Colin]

Barca just spent £140M on Coutinho and €145 on Dembele, are they going to spend another €100M on Griezmann?

 

[AndyJ1985]

Barca just spent £140M on Coutinho and €145 on Dembele, are they going to spend another €100M on Griezmann?

They want to be the best in the world. Can't fault them for their ambition.

 

[Vault Dweller]

I'm in!

Think Barcelona won't go through with any deal of him now as they'll probably end up with a transfer ban again, something I'm sure they would like to avoid.

Welcome aboard the train my friend

 

[Cliche Guevara]

Barca just spent £140M on Coutinho and €145 on Dembele, are they going to spend another €100M on Griezmann?

If they are then the likelihood is they’re trying to negotiate paying something slightly higher than the release clause, so they can do it in instalments.

That’s a big outlay, as you say, although they did get Neymar’s fee in a oner.

 

[gr3yham3]

Saw this guy's tweets: https://mobile.twitter.com/JamesMelville
and he seemed to post the same thing as the redditor - that Griezmann is 90% done and seems pretty sure of it. His original tweet has been deleted but it was something about it being the first time he posted something about football transfers.

Running through his TL, does not seem like he is an "ITK". The company he works for is legit, his bio on their website says he worked with Manchester United for sponsorship dealings before and he has 91k followers, so I don't think its a new or fake account. Sorry for the picture size - not sure how to resize it.

 

[$inner_88]

So far this has all be based off two random posts on the internet.

If this was on I'd have thought we would have heard something from Di Marzio and co by now. Even the low level hacks aren't pushing it.

 

[champp1nho]

Griezmann will sign for United. Bale etc are just smokescreens just like Morata/Lukaku case.

 

[Sassy Colin]

I see it checks out, http://ninety-five.co.uk/# Click on 'find out more' and scroll down to 'who we are'.

But why would he potentially jeopardise the company's ability to obtain further assignments by blabbing about confidential transfer dealings?

Must admit I don't know much about twatter, but can you see the above Tweet here:

https://twitter.com/JamesMelville?ref_src=twsrc^google|twcamp^serp|twgr^author

Mostly about Brexit.

 

[peridigm]

I see it checks out, http://ninety-five.co.uk/# Click on 'find out more' and scroll down to 'who we are'.

But why would he potentially jeopardise the company's ability to obtain further assignments by blabbing about confidential transfer dealings?

No idea, but that landing page is mesmerizing.

 

[gr3yham3]

I see it checks out, http://ninety-five.co.uk/# Click on 'find out more' and scroll down to 'who we are'.

But why would he potentially jeopardise the company's ability to obtain further assignments by blabbing about confidential transfer dealings? Judging from his speciality and previous job experience from his Linkedin, no reason for it to be just BS as well, UNLESS he is something like a Pool fan and is on a serious WUM, which does not make sense too since it will affect his job. He is supposed to be a specialist in COMMUNICATION and sponsorship after all.

Must admit I don't know much about twatter, but can you see the above Tweet here:

https://twitter.com/JamesMelville?ref_src=twsrc^google|twcamp^serp|twgr^author

Mostly about Brexit.

Hmm but why would he post that anyway? Though the tweet has been deleted, he is still confident about it happening as seen from his replies to others who have challenged him about it. Apparently he is not the same Reddit Kohler guy, since that one is most likely posting from the States due to the timing of his posts.

No idea, but that landing page is mesmerizing.

yeah it really is mesmerising!

 

[Sassy Colin]

Thought the one about betting was funny.