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Mate, you only have to go back a few weeks ago to find people adamant that United couldn’t forgo his hardwork after his cameo versus Newcastle.I haven’t forgotten the think pieces from our resident ‘experts’ on how he’d be part of the radical shift to a possession based team and all the balance he’d offer. At the end of the season there were still some blaming everyone else for his poor form be it now overlapping RB or no striker. This lad could have Cafu playing behind him and Van Basten up front and still be shite.
I spotted it within his first 10 games that he was a joke, probably even before that just looking at his Ajax videos but you had crazy people claiming he could be a new Robben.
Antony should be his contract compensation. See Eric we owe you x milion for terminating your contract. Here’s Antony. His yours nowWhen the owners sack ETH, they should give him Antony as a parting gift.
Laughing face emoji - great replyAs of this point, our only hope is Brazilian police.
I can hold my hand up as a portion of this, but to this day, it makes no sense whatsoever to have bought this player in, weaknesses and all, and not provide him with the players of equal competency to what he had at his previous club.I haven’t forgotten the think pieces from our resident ‘experts’ on how he’d be part of the radical shift to a possession based team and all the balance he’d offer. At the end of the season there were still some blaming everyone else for his poor form be it now overlapping RB or no striker. This lad could have Cafu playing behind him and Van Basten up front and still be shite.
I spotted it within his first 10 games that he was a joke, probably even before that just looking at his Ajax videos but you had crazy people claiming he could be a new Robben.
If he came through the youth he'd have already been binned off by now. No way you would persist with a youth prospect this bad.He's worse than Pepe was for arsenal. That says a lot.
Even if we paid 25m for him, it would be horrible. If he was somebody that came through youth we would be saying he needs a loan or to be sold
I think the fee is influencing our decisions … and it shouldn’t. Persisting with something because of the fee is a false economy… good organisations cut their losses when evidence clearly says they should. I think SJR would/willHe's worse than Pepe was for arsenal. That says a lot.
Even if we paid 25m for him, it would be horrible. If he was somebody that came through youth we would be saying he needs a loan or to be sold
True, but I'm including potential in that, such as it exists with Antony. He can be a tidy footballer with a better technical level than someone like Elanga. But not as much pace, limited goal threat. In a suitable club. Not at this level and probably not in this league.I don’t even see 15 million footballer; that gets you Elanga, and he looks far more effective than Antony.
But, why? A back up still plays a lot of games and Antony is useless against any fullback he's up against.I wouldn’t mind him as backup but we need to upgrade on him. If we have more faith in Diallo just sell him before his value is negligible. I was defensive of Antony and off the ball he’s very good but he’s absolutely hopeless in attack. He and everyone else around him knows he can’t hurt defences and is only good and recycling the ball in non dangerous areas.
It seems more and more clear to me that it’s just smarter with wingers to bet on the ones with real explosive pace/strength and hope to coach the production in as opposed to taking someone with good production in a lesser league but lacking a physical threat unless the player is an absolute technical magician on the ball. Diaby and Kudus being obvious recent examples of the former.Obviously why we bought him was because we appointed Erik and we had to back the coach but I watched the vid of Malacia having him in his back pocket in one game and he only cost us 14mil so things just did not add up.
Nah, his numbers were underwhelming. If you've got access to this forum, you've also got access to YouTube - and if you saw his highlight reels, and came way anything but underwhelmed you really should be questioning how much you're actually getting out of watching this sport.Can't blame the fans as I bet they are not even familiar with the player before he signed for us, and just putting their blind faith on him because they trust the new manager or something. Also I remember there were big concerns on his numbers in poor league, and the price tag too. in the end fans just went with the notion that the player is going to explode soon because they trust ETH should know his stuffs or something, and we are buying a player who is perfect for ETH system, and on his rise.
The issue is that we had to wait initially on Antony because Ten Hag was CONVINCED De Jong wanted to join (he didn’t) and thus we chased him for the better part of 2 months. Then after we finally gave up, we TL returned to Ajax and Ten Hag insisted we sign Antony even when the price had now been raised to 80m. Wanting to sign him for 40-50m is bad enough. Still insisting we get him when he costs almost double that is sackable.Realistically though - If ETH says lets get Antony. Who sets the agrees the fee? ETH may be thinking lets get Antony £30-50m (which is over the odds) then our inept negotiating team take over and feck the whole thing up. Have they not heard the adage - Buy Low sell High?? We are consistently fleeced on selling players and consistently fleeced on buying players. I hope Ineos correct that situation first. Its hard to watch us having our pants pulled down on every transfer and even harder to see it jammed up our arse's when the player inevitably flops.
Sancho and Antony = £158,000,000 plus wages of £104,000,000 over 4 years. Qtr of a billion down the drain Antony/Sancho score again!
The fee should be put to the side, the real issue is the fact that ten hag managed Antony the season prior and still insisted on him being a priority signing for the 1st team on the right wing.The issue is that we had to wait initially on Antony because Ten Hag was CONVINCED De Jong wanted to join (he didn’t) and thus we chased him for the better part of 2 months. Then after we finally gave up, we TL returned to Ajax and Ten Hag insisted we sign Antony even when the price had now been raised to 80m. Wanting to sign him for 40-50m is bad enough. Still insisting we get him when he costs almost double that is sackable.
Most of them are much better than Antony. Only Pepe rivals him.Relax people. It's not like other clubs get the best buys anyway.
Man City - Grealish
Liverpool - Gakpo
Spurs - Richarlison
Chelsea - Mudryk, Enzo, Caicedo, Lukaku
Arsenal - Havertz, Pepe
Pepe actually scored 15+ goals in his second season and actually played well in France before Arsenal bought him, Antony is in a tier lower than even him.Most of them are much better than Antony. Only Pepe rivals him.
Yup. Players who were previously good, but couldn't translate their previous levels to a new team or club are somewhat understandable as bad signings. It maybe shows a lack of thoroughness in the recruitment process especially if it's an expensive player.Pepe actually scored 15+ goals in his second season and actually played well in France before Arsenal bought him, Antony is in a tier lower than even him.
I think the stick Antony gets from his own fans is completely unjustified, yes we overpaid for him but to make claims like "he is the worst signing in our history" is really unfair.Pepe actually scored 15+ goals in his second season and actually played well in France before Arsenal bought him, Antony is in a tier lower than even him.
But mainly hampered by he himself being absolutely fecking terrible.Antony's output goalwise and assist wise has been hampered both by his managers tactics and the players around him not being good enough.
He's terrible. But, Memphis was absolutely atrocious here too.I wouldn’t sign him for £10m. He’s a poor player. Memphis was twice the player.
p4p worst signing in our history. better?I think the stick Antony gets from his own fans is completely unjustified, yes we overpaid for him but to make claims like "he is the worst signing in our history" is really unfair.
Antony's output goalwise and assist wise has been hampered both by his managers tactics and the players around him not being good enough.
Put Antony in a side with proper attackers alongside him and tactics that dont stifle the attacking phase and you'll see a much better output.
