Yeah maybe a new club could revitalise him
Antony | Here we go! €100mill, contract until June 2027, option 'til 2028.
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
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His club don’t want to sell but if they do it’s for a high price which has been widely reported. They know their €80m valuation is too high but €40m is also too low.
Do we even have alternatives to him? After Ajax slapped that feck off price on him you'd think we'd at least show interest in other RWs like Raphinha, Dembele, Ziyech but no interest at all. Which is confusing because those 3 are probably the best RWs available besides Antony and are all being target by other clubs. So if we waste too much time on Antony, we could miss out on the good alternatives
He's not worth that money and Ajax don't want to sell so not much room for negotiation there, we should leave this one until next year.
Not a bad shout but apparently was available cheaper last season with a release clause. I think he may have signed a new deal since and he’s their most promising youth. Won’t be cheap anymore.
Ye you’d think we’d leak some interest in other right wingers aswell just to try and make Ajax take the money and start negotiations with us. If Antony is indeed our first choice target then we’re going to go all in for him but there’s no reason why we shouldn’t be talking to 2nd and 3rd choice targets to see how much they could cost and then the club should be looking at the pros and cons of all 3.
They don't want to sell and that's the only truth in that statement. How exactly did you come to a conclusion that 40m is too low ?
Funny thing is - you could argue the reason we are being priced out of Antony is because we've taken too long with FDJ. The one target at a time approach seems to be doing wonders for us, as always.
How do we know that we are being priced out of Antony if we didn't talk with his club?
They don't have to sell so they can hold out for what they decide.
What would be suitable alternative targets that we could get for around £40m or less?
If we were interested in dembele. Then id keep that quiet until FDJ was signed and then go for him (theoretically). As you dont want to piss Barcelona off when trying to get FDJ over the line.
That only really works though when the club wants to sell. Ajax will seemingly only sell if the offer is too good to refuse as is their right.
From our perspective, it's probably wise to look elsewhere even if its a stop gap as at that price it's quite difficult to justify the transfer. Anyone know if Chukweuze at Villareal is still performing well? They seem to be strapped for cash and he was supposed to be very good a couple of years ago.
Mental that we may end up paying more for Antony than Liverpool did for Luis Diaz.
Don't think there's any possibility of that.
Any possibility if a January move for the kid?
Because he’s worth more given his age, talent and the fact Ajax don’t want to sell - simple really isn’t it?
What value do you put on him? And what’s your reasoning?
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Not quick enough. With Bruno and Ronaldo down the middle we need someone who can stretch teams and take fullbacks on. Ziyech will just muddle the middle with the other two who aren't speedy.
We must be crazy to pay anywhere near this price
Age and talent ? You just come up with random numbers without any reasoning and say 60m is a fair value(based on absolutely nothing )
My valuation ? I don't have any. I haven't seen the player apart from odd CL games with Ajax and I am not doing any guess like you did. I would just trust our scouting team.
To see Rivaldo and then later Ronaldinho in United red would have been sensational.
So you have no clue whatsoever and just argued for the sake of it. I certainly won’t be trusting our scouting department - I like to have my own opinion in any case.
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I’m guessing this thread will be muppet mood swing central now that FDJ appears to be moving to the end? 
Why is it mental?
Because Luis Diaz looks like a £100m player while Antony had 8 goals and 4 assists in the Dutch league.
Don’t get me wrong I’d like Antony but we’d be wanting more goals and assists in a much harder league.
For comparison Diaz had 14 goals and 5 assists in half a season in Portugal.
No.
No point leaking interest in other targets when Ajax don't want to sell, which is the most likely situation here. I think this is a transfer for next summer. Can't see them letting him go this summer, even if he puts up a big fuss.
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I don't think we are signing Antony this window. I think we are signing him after the world cup but showing our interest now ahead of others Incase he goes up a level and other clubs enter the race in the next 6-12 months
At least we could cling to FDJ in that scenario. Probably would be a small saving grace hahaI’m guessing this thread will be muppet mood swing central now that FDJ appears to be moving to the end?
Any total more than £35 mil is beyond madness. He has huge potential though.
To be honest I don't know if he's physical enough to compete and play in the PL
If people aren't self-loathing all things United, they are fawning over all things rivals. Diaz £100m player, jeez.
He’s not going to improve us. Waste of money
Diaz looks a £100m player after the fact though. And you are yet to see what Antony looks like at United.
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