mitchmouse
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Star and Sun both saying deal is done
I'm off to the megastroe!Star and Sun both saying deal is done
If he has an amazing WC his value will not just rise, it will skyrocket.Yeah like with David Neres. How much did they sell him for? I’m sure they will take into account it’s a brand new season with a new manager and his contract next year will be a year shorter.
I doubt his value will increase but he could have an amazing World Cup and then you’d see his stock rise.
He is a sensation, thats the whole thing. He has only 23 games in the league this season because of injury and in the beginning of the season he was paet of rotation so he wouldnt be fatigued early in the season. His stats would be far better over a whole season. I fully expect his numbers to increase next season.That’s why he won’t go for the stupid fee’s many believe he will especially if our new approach to transfers are true. Would be a dumb as buying Pepe for £70m.
The numbers don’t add up. He’s not a teen sensation and he’s not got highly productive numbers like say a Bruno Fernandes.
If they don’t want to sell at any cost then fair enough he just stays where he’s at for another season. But then they have to hope his stats remains the same or elevates. It’s still a risk for them.
Completely agree. The all touches is the way to go. This ensures you get a sense of consistency, outcome in a range of scenarios and a greater sense of decision making.Stop watching highlight vids! Watch all touches in a game compilations.
I think he's alright, but I'm worried he's just going to be a Depay, who I never rated.
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Haven’t you just proved peoples point with value. If he had a good World Cup they are still selling him for the same fee. Whether he’s better than Neres is neither here or there.If he has an amazing WC his value will not just rise, it will skyrocket.
Comparing him to Neres is like comparing Martial to Cristiano Ronaldo. It's a stupid comparison.
He is a sensation, thats the whole thing. He has only 23 games in the league this season because of injury and in the beginning of the season he was paet of rotation so he wouldnt be fatigued early in the season. His stats would be far better over a whole season. I fully expect his numbers to increase next season.
I'm not saying United should buy him for a stupid fee or anyone should. But Ajax have all the right and reason to ask a stupid fee right now. I don't see the risk that you're talking about. The risk is the other way around. If Ajax sell him for a reasonable fee right now and he plays a great WC and/or plays great for his new club Ajax miss out on a huge amount. If he plays a decent WC and has a decent season at Ajax, then Ajax can still sell him for £45/50m next year. No reason to sell him for that amount now.
I'd bite your hand off for someone like Nani, he was so underrated. If Antony is even close to him in terms of skill and potential we should be all over.Kinda reminds me of Nani a little bit.
Feel free to ignore my posts mate.You certainly are generalizing when you go from RW to W as if it was the same.
Depay was overhyped but he’s not a bad player, he’s basically a 1 in 2 striker and has been consistently that level for years now.It is difficult to rate Eredivisie players and how they will do in England. The defending in the Eredivisie is really bad and the Ajax team is so much better than every other team. Antony had a good first season but it would be very quick to leave already. David Neres was good for a season too but it turned out he wasnt as good as people thought he was. Antony took his place and Neres was shipped out to Shaktar.
Antony is fun to watch, a flair player but im not sure if he is better than Bergwijn or Memphis were when they left the Eredivisie. Bergwijn and Memphis both werent a succes in England despite both being talented players. Malen who left PSV for Dortmund also looked like a quality player but i dont think he is doing that amazing at Dortmund either. It is just difficult to rate Eredivisie attackers.
It aint over till the Fabrizio singsStar and Sun both saying deal is done
It’s a shame that the Feyernord loan for Amad fell through so we could have seen him in the Dutch league last seasonAnd you're hanging your hopes on two kids who couldn't break into the teams they were loaned to. You know Pellistri played 90 minutes in total since December right? And you're referencing him compared to Antony who the manager knows will perform for him in his system.
Star says “according to The Sun”. At the moment it’s only Custis who’s said this.Star and Sun both saying deal is done
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It's the way he carries himself I think along with his frame. Proper nonchalant winger.I'd bite your hand off for someone like Nani, he was so underrated. If Antony is even close to him in terms of skill and potential we should be all over.
I feel Nani is getting rated higher by each passing (shit) United season. He was wildly inconsistent and utterly frustrating to watch most of the times. He did have a season where he was perhaps the best winger in the league but he never fulfilled his potential. A Nani in our team would be an upgrade for sure in the RW position but that is not saying much.I'd bite your hand off for someone like Nani, he was so underrated. If Antony is even close to him in terms of skill and potential we should be all over.
I also never rated depay but there is huge difference between depay and Antony. Depay was neither quick nor had the skills of Antony to beat his man. Having said that, I’m also abit skeptical about him. I don’t see the world class potential or talent people see in him. Would be decent to good, would be functional but not a difference maker. I just don’t see it.Stop watching highlight vids! Watch all touches in a game compilations.
I think he's alright, but I'm worried he's just going to be a Depay, who I never rated.
.well yes as that will be ten minutes after the deal is officially announced by other sourcesIt aint over till the Fabrizio sings
I think you misinterpret my words. If he plays a decent season and WC Ajax can still sell him for £45m/50m. If he plays an amazing WC with Brazil or season with Ajax, then Ajax can easily get the same amount Benfica got for Nunez. Hence, Ajax have a lot to gain from keeping him and that's financially. Obviously that's not even considering value on the pitch. Therefore Ajax would be stupid to sell him for £50m now.Haven’t you just proved peoples point with value. If he had a good World Cup they are still selling him for the same fee. Whether he’s better than Neres is neither here or there.
He’s made it known he’s ready to leave and I’m sure if the price is right Ajax will sell. Player turnover is normal at Ajax and they deal with it well.
Given that he still has a 3 year contract and he is regularly in the Brazil squad now with a World Cup coming up.. I would aim higher if I were Ajax to be honest...Tweet
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Feeling the same way too. He just feels like someone who should be going for 25-30m. Time will tell, hopefully we finally hit the jackpot.I also never rated depay but there is huge difference between depay and Antony. Depay was neither quick nor had the skills of Antony to beat his man. Having said that, I’m also abit skeptical about him. I don’t see the world class potential or talent people see in him. Would be decent to good, would be functional but not a difference maker. I just don’t see it.
Ten Hag would actually ask him not to score or assist too much to give the opponents a chanceIs there a reason why his numbers aren't great, particularly given the league he's in?
Is it something to do with the way he's deployed?
You say that Custis is right, but is this just another outlet that are using The Sun as a source?47m euros is decent starting point for Antony. Think few performance related add on to take it to 60m euros should be enough.
Finally we will get a Brazil player who has flair.
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Looks like Custis was right
Mate let’s speak reality and not hocus pocus. They are not getting Nunez numbers for a player of Antony’s level. They didn’t land on Neymar/R9 gold. They have a very talented player who has benefited from the coaching of our current manager. There’s also quite a few players around in Europe that fit this mould and just like Antony I’m sure a new talent will emerge in the next 12 months.I think you misinterpret my words. If he plays a decent season and WC Ajax can still sell him for £45m/50m. If he plays an amazing WC with Brazil or season with Ajax, then Ajax can easily get the same amount Benfica got for Nunez. Hence, Ajax have a lot to gain from keeping him and that's financially. Obviously that's not even considering value on the pitch. Therefore Ajax would be stupid to sell him for £50m now.
Been deleted, what's the dilly?47m euros is decent starting point for Antony. Think few performance related add on to take it to 60m euros should be enough.
Finally we will get a Brazil player who has flair.
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Looks like Custis was right
We can't even offer Jesse Lingard as a swap.Given that he still has a 3 year contract and he is regularly in the Brazil squad now with a World Cup coming up.. I would aim higher if I were Ajax to be honest...
Ten Hag would actually ask him not to score or assist too much to give the opponents a chance
Think it's very likely Rashford and Sancho compete for the left, Antony and Sancho compete for the right. Elanga will cover both positions and the rest will go on loan again.If we sign him, wonder what that means for Rashford, Amad and Pellistri. Sancho and Elanga take the left. I assume we are not £40m for a backup.’
and Martial to act as a backup to Ronaldo?Think it's very likely Rashford and Sancho compete for the left, Antony and Sancho compete for the right. Elanga will cover both positions and the rest will go on loan again.
Yeah, I would think so.and Martial to act as a backup to Ronaldo?
His end product is lacking at this point in time. His finishing in particular definitely needs improvement. He has a lot of talent though, a very good dribbler. That being said I'd be shocked if he doesn't struggle with the better defending in the PL. Personally I think he'd be more of a rotation player for us in the 1st season unless Rashford can't rediscover his form. Not worth over £35-40m and I think some of the Ajax fans are massively underrating how much better defenders are in the PL than in the Eredivisie, the same way so many Dortmund fans were underrating how much defenders in the PL are than in the Bundesliga when we signed Sancho (who was absolutely miles ahead of Antony's current level). If It's going to cost £50m+ I'd prefer we focus on Raphinha tbh.Is there a reason why his numbers aren't great, particularly given the league he's in?
Is it something to do with the way he's deployed?
I think he has a high shot per game stats, which means he is probably bad at shooting.Is there a reason why his numbers aren't great, particularly given the league he's in?
Is it something to do with the way he's deployed?