I was only half joking. His style however would’ve been ideal for the mix of players they have.
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I’m not sure. They got a lot of good players but they in their 30s or approaching 30. Don’t think their squad has the style to play the pressing style Bielsa wants. Plus too many egos and not enough leaders.
They probably need a manager who’d get them playing in a counter attack manner and concede possession. Rather than trying to imitate Spain.
Yeah, at least that show in the picture
Have to see if Messi plays firstHow much space is Nigeria giving Messi then?
They have to play him. It's the only remote chance they have to go through. The problem is that there is too much pressure on Messi.Have to see if Messi plays first
Sampaoli the worst manager ever alongside Domenech
The players now will decide the line up and the tactic
The players now will decide the line up and the tactic
National team titles Sampaoli: 1
National team titles Argentina players : 0
He is not doing a great job, but he is clearly not the worst manager ever and the Argentina players need to have a hard look at themselves. Also laughable to say the players decide the line up only now when Messi had a very big say in personnel matters already.
Won the Copa America with Chile and did a decent job with Sevilla.
He isn't the right fit for this Argentine team, doesn't make him the "worst manager ever". Don't let the fact that he looks like a bouncer cloud your judgment.
I hope Argentina goes home because even if they've been bad, on their day, you never know, one of their great players can wake up and truly hurt us
Lo Celso can play midfield and he (manager) left out Pastore, for 2nd rate wingers at small clubs. The blame falls on him. He has players who play in top European clubs, even in the midfield. I blame Sampa for everything and so should the football community. You see Klopp making the CL final with very good attackers, average midfielders and defenders, due to the system. I agree that Sampa has less time with them but come on!
They won the game so they were hardly taken to school by Morocco. And you do remember that most of those players were part of the Portugal team that won the European Championships 2 years ago?
Demischelis played in the final, even worse
Planification
I don't plan anything. Everything pops up un my head when it has to. It comes naturally in the right moment. I hate planification. If I make a plan for something, I turn myself into an office worker. I'm the same from the 1991's Alumni team. Football can't be studied; it just can be felt and lived. I start from there. I'm from tjhe street; it's impossible to deny that.
From Sampaoli's autobiography. That guy is our manager.
I read that fa president decided that players are in charge now and that they will decide how to play, what formation etc...
It can't be true?? Can it?
It can't be true?? Can it?
So he has won very little in his career. Lets get the Greece manager from 2004 to manage United!
Di Maria scored 20 goals last season for PSG.
The personnel is average. Midfield, defense and goalkeeper is very subpar. On top of that, there's whole team aspect, which is sort of the most important part of football.
Sure but four years ago he had come off a brilliant season playing in midfield and being man of the match in the Champions League final there. Argentina need midfielders yet he has spent the last few years on the bench for United or as a rotation option in attack for a provincial club who dominate a weaker league. He's not as useful to them as he was in 2014.
Argentina are a bunch of DQ's
When has it not been? Since Riquelme, Ayala and Samuel retired, then have they produced top class defenders and midfielders?
Did pretty well with sevilla too, got them in the CL I think.
Judging by titles this "Greece manager from 2004" wasn't that bad...
UEFA European Championship: 2004 (Greece)
UEFA Cup Winners Cup: 1992 (Werder Bremen)
German Bundesliga Championship: 1987 & 1993 (Werder Bremen), 1998 (Kaiserslautern)
German 2. Bundesliga Championship: 1997 (Kaiserlautern)
German Cup: 1980 (Fortuna Düsseldorf), 1991 & 1994 (Werder Bremen)
German Super Cup: 1988, 1993 & 1994 (Werder Bremen)
German Coach of the year (by kicker magazine): 1985, 1987, 1988, 1989 & 1998
Man of the year (by kicker magazine): 1997 & 1998
He was rated as one of the best coaches in Germany in the 80s and 90s. He did not made it long when he took over at Bayern though (was fired in his first season a few days before the UEFA Cup final Bayern vs Bordeaux, which Bayern then won with Beckenbauer taking over), but managed to win the championship with Kaiserlautern 1998 coming straight from the 2. Bundesliga.
Love randoms stats thrown around like this.
He scored 11 goals and assisted in 6, playing for a team that scored 108 goals in the league. Compare that to 4 goals and 18 assists for Real Madrid in 2014. I think that points at least to a slight decline. I know how he played for Real Madrid in 2014 and with Argentina, the few games I've seen from him this season dont' come close to that form.
Simeone with some interesting observations.
https://scroll.in/field/883760/fifa...hy-within-argentina-team-takes-swipe-at-messi
In truth, Simeone would be the perfect coach for Argentina at the moment. Unlucky for them that Atletico Madrid have him locked.
https://scroll.in/field/883760/fifa...hy-within-argentina-team-takes-swipe-at-messi
In truth, Simeone would be the perfect coach for Argentina at the moment. Unlucky for them that Atletico Madrid have him locked.
??? 11 in the league, 1 in the champions league, 7 in the cup. Mbappe only scored 2 more......
You obviously didn't watch the much. Save for CR7s goal, they were utterly dominated and had Rui Patricio in fine form and profligacy from Morocco to thank for escaping with all the points....
Obviously. They are still a team stuffed with far worse individual talent than anything Argentina possesses. The main difference between them and the Argentines is their collective is far greater than the sum of its constituent parts.
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Planification
I don't plan anything. Everything pops up un my head when it has to. It comes naturally in the right moment. I hate planification. If I make a plan for something, I turn myself into an office worker. I'm the same from the 1991's Alumni team. Football can't be studied; it just can be felt and lived. I start from there. I'm from tjhe street; it's impossible to deny that.
From Sampaoli's autobiography. That guy is our manager.
Play di Maria deeper. They have zero creativity in midfield and can't pass. Di Maria can run with the ball and will attract attention to free up aguero and Messi.
He barely touched the ball v Iceland. Deserved dropped even if alternatives are pretty poor.
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Di Maria can barely pass as well.
On paper it's all well and good letting Messi stay upfront and focus on scoring goals. But Argentina need him deeper orchestrating play as we saw against Croatia. This team struggles to move the ball forward effectively. Theyre better off playing Messi deeper and two of Higuain/Dybala/Aguero upfront.
If both Ronaldo and Messi played together in that team, they'd still struggle. Played horrendously in every part of the pitch.
Argentina NT is so messi = team chemistry is off and no balance - defensive unit and attacking unit have no cooperation with each other. Do they even have a midfield..
I think they need a holding midfielder who'll play the simple passes. Do they even have one? Too many players over complicating things.
^Either that or just play counter attacking football - 7/8 men defend, 4/3 men attack.
Romero is at least an upgrade.
I think they need a holding midfielder who'll play the simple passes. Do they even have one? Too many players over complicating things.
^Either that or just play counter attacking football - 7/8 men defend, 4/3 men attack.
Romero is at least an upgrade.
So, any Argentinian to confirm what is actually going on?
Sadly, @Marcosdeto isn't very active these days.
Lo Celso or Banega. Both been wierdly ignored so far.
Though they've been thoroughly shite so far, they're not out yet. Portugal finished 3rd in a very weak group 2 years ago and went on to win the whole thing.
apparently they are waaay below international standard, according to the manager. I think Banega returning from injury though and he left out Pastore from the squad
yeah, but Portugal faced Croatia, Wales and Poland. Argentina goes straight on France next