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Can i call him Arséne Wanker? Sorry, i have lost all the respect i had for him.
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Apart from DT of course.I don't feel an ounce of sympathy for them. This was in the making for 10 or more years and yet the fans did nothing about it.
Every other club, irrespective whether they were small or big, would have hounded out both the club and the manager eons ago. Arsenal fans with their 'holier than thou' and wenger in mentality are a perfect match for their board. They kept believing all the deluded messages put out by the board year in year out.
I don't like people who feel sorry for us. It means we have digged our own grave.I don't feel an ounce of sympathy for them. This was in the making for 10 or more years and yet the fans did nothing about it.
Every other club, irrespective whether they were small or big, would have hounded out both the club and the manager eons ago. Arsenal fans with their 'holier than thou' and wenger in mentality are a perfect match for their board. They kept believing all the deluded messages put out by the board year in year out.
This isn't really realistic in the circumstances. Most fans believed the long term vision that Fiszman and our old board sold us about the new stadium 2000-2004.Every other club, irrespective whether they were small or big, would have hounded out both the club and the manager eons ago. Arsenal fans with their 'holier than thou' and wenger in mentality are a perfect match for their board. They kept believing all the deluded messages put out by the board year in year out.
Yes, You can and I will. Irrespective of the board infighting and the secrecies involved, Arsenal fans started accepting mediocrity for years and it is their fault. Any top club would not have accepted such mediocrity and lies from the board.This isn't really realistic in the circumstances. Most fans believed the long term vision that Fiszman and our old board sold us about the new stadium 2000-2004.
Then during all the board fights, most of the details were kept secret. Unlike the Glazers very public takeover and Hicks and Gillet at Liverpool's public saga, all the board room fighting and changing at Arsenal in the late 2000s was almost entirely hidden from the fans. Very few really knew what was going on and most of the journalism in those pre-Twitter years was coming out of Kroenke sources or Dein sources. The who stadium selling job had already worked on most Arsenal fans to the degree that most of us did not even realize Kroenke had obtained that much control until it was too late.
Its more complicated than that but really you can't blame the fans for not realizing what was happening when it benefited both sides of the board in-fighting to keep it as quiet as possible.
Hill-Wood, Brycewell-Smith, Dein, Fiszman, Gazidis and most important of all Kroenke and Usmanov. A host of characters who could make for quite the future dramatic adaptation on the either the big or small screen.This isn't really realistic in the circumstances. Most fans believed the long term vision that Fiszman and our old board sold us about the new stadium 2000-2004.
Then during all the board fights, most of the details were kept secret. Unlike the Glazers very public takeover and Hicks and Gillet at Liverpool's public saga, all the board room fighting and changing at Arsenal in the late 2000s was almost entirely hidden from the fans. Very few really knew what was going on and most of the journalism in those pre-Twitter years was coming out of Kroenke sources or Dein sources. The who stadium selling job had already worked on most Arsenal fans to the degree that most of us did not even realize Kroenke had obtained that much control until it was too late.
Its more complicated than that but really you can't blame the fans for not realizing what was happening when it benefited both sides of the board in-fighting to keep it as quiet as possible.
You are assuming that fan protest could have changed something. This isnt Liverpool with two speculators. This is Wal Mart gold digger Kroenke who won't sell based on fan protest. This is the owner who told an entire city to feck off irrespective of bad PR just to profit from moving his NFL team to another city.Yes, You can and I will. Irrespective of the board infighting and the secrecies involved, Arsenal fans started accepting mediocrity for years and it is their fault. Any top club would not have accepted such mediocrity and lies from the board.
Please delete. Dont give away my pitch mateHill-Wood, Brycewell-Smith, Dein, Fiszman, Gazidis and mostly important of all Kroenke and Usmanov. A host of characters who could make for quite the future dramatic adaptation on the either the big or small screen.
That doesn't mean there is no reason not to be vocal about it. Arsenal fans and only quite a few have actually been vocal about it and that too only in recent years.You are assuming that fan protest could have changed something. This isnt Liverpool with two speculators. This is Wal Mart gold digger Kroenke who won't sell based on fan protest. This is the owner who told an entire city to feck off irrespective of bad PR just to profit from moving his NFL team to another city.
Haha, happy with a little collaboration if you'd like to my friend. We can share the speech at the Baftas.Please delete. Dont give away my pitch mate
That's not entirely true though...a large portion of their fans have been wanting him out for quite some time and that number has been growing for the last couple of yearsI don't feel an ounce of sympathy for them. This was in the making for 10 or more years and yet the fans did nothing about it.
Every other club, irrespective whether they were small or big, would have hounded out both the club and the manager eons ago. Arsenal fans with their 'holier than thou' and wenger in mentality are a perfect match for their board. They kept believing all the deluded messages put out by the board year in year out.
I don't believe the Arsenal fans can affect any change with Kroenke as majority owner. After reading about the chump for 10 years now I truly feel you don't quite get how little Kroenke gives any fecks about the fans. He is only at one Arsenal match a year ffs and is famous for never speaking to the media or giving them any attention. He is Wal Mart money.I am just curious as to what you think are fans going to do / should do to get of this mess.
because they don't really want to spend stupid money regardlessWhy wait to sign Lemar until the last day when he's on international duty?
Absolutely ridiculous when they have known Sanchez has lost his desire to be at the club for some time now.
No, people are acting like this is a big thing precisely because nobody bat an eye at that performanceThe only reason people are acting like this is a big thing is because Arsenal is a big name. Had Everton, who are arguably inching closer to Arsenal's level (of ambition if not prestige), lost 4-0 at Liverpool nobody would bat an eye.
You really can't blame the fans here to be fair. They would support their club even through lies and turmoil just like you would. Yes, a lot of them were vocal in their support of Wenger but a lot of them wanted him gone as well. At the end of the day no amount of fan pressure would have changed what was going on at the boardroom level at Arsenal which is the root cause of all their problems. Their owner uses the club as a figure on his balance sheets and eventually that mindset would permeate on the pitch. No zeal, no ambition in the transfer market, poor commercial deals.Yes, You can and I will. Irrespective of the board infighting and the secrecies involved, Arsenal fans started accepting mediocrity for years and it is their fault. Any top club would not have accepted such mediocrity and lies from the board.
It was quite obvious that they wanted to use the money they got from the sale of Ox AND Sanchez to buy Lemar. Something strange in terms of finances is going on with that club that the board isn't telling everyone. They're behaving in the transfer market like a tier 2 club.Why wait to sign Lemar until the last day when he's on international duty?
Absolutely ridiculous when they have known Sanchez has lost his desire to be at the club for some time now.
Everytime I see Arsenal, I remember how those cnuts surrounded RvN when he missed that penalty then I remember how he celebrated when he scored to break their unbeaten streak.If you're beginning to feel a modicum of pity for Arsenal, do yourself a favour and watch the following video.
Believe me, there is no greater cure for your pity.
No doubt they're pointing blame at City for coming in for Sanchez so late, but their bid was probably a 'let's just test their resolve one last time before the window shuts' kind of thing, after they've likely been told by Arsenal to feck off all summer.Why wait to sign Lemar until the last day when he's on international duty?
Absolutely ridiculous when they have known Sanchez has lost his desire to be at the club for some time now.
This.Everytime I see Arsenal, I remember how those cnuts surrounded RvN when he missed that penalty then I remember how he celebrated when he scored to break their unbeaten streak.
There is no football club I enjoy watching screw up more than Arsenal, mainly because most of my mates are Arsenal fans.
Glad to see them fall.
And rightly so. We are (were) rivals. We don't need to get along wellEverytime I see Arsenal, I remember how those cnuts surrounded RvN when he missed that penalty then I remember how he celebrated when he scored to break their unbeaten streak.
There is no football club I enjoy watching screw up more than Arsenal, mainly because most of my mates are Arsenal fans.
Glad to see them fall.
They finished below Spurs in a season when Leicester won the league, Chelsea imploded and Utd completely stagnated.Ok I'm about to get some grief.....I can't see what Wenger has done wrong. His brief is to buy within the spending limits imposed by the board. The results are obvious and cumulated into the poor season last year. The problem is expectations. Everyone seems to think they should win the league and champions league. They won't. Give Wenger the spending power of man united, city or Chelsea over two, three seasons and then I would understand why people are surprised when they don't win the league. Otherwise champions league and a half decent run in a cup is a good season. Yes they failed last year but that has been an outlier and still not exactly a shock with all the oil money thrown around.
They finished below Spurs in a season when Leicester won the league, Chelsea imploded and Utd completely stagnated.
Yeah but what do you expect? There are always teams that by luck as much as management do well. Leicester being prime example but Spurs as well. All of a sudden they get players like Kane and Ali out of know where that turn into world class players. That happens. But over 3,5,10 years you stay at the top by competing financially with the top clubs. If you don't you rely on the top players you have and when they decline you are fkd.
The regular pastings they received also can't be chalked up to lack of spending. Half of Europe don't get those season in season out.
Its not just spending but spending is a big part. You don't spend, you decline then players down tools. Then you get hammered.
No top manager will save them. They need to spend. And spend big. Anyone who thinks that a top manager will go there on the budget of Wenger and win the league is deluding themselves.If they lose both Sanches and Ozil, they'll be fecked. Only a top manager could save them. Won't be easy though. Madness.
Stan Kroenke effectively saying he's not competing on spending with the big boys throws water on the whole Wenger out campaign to be honest.No top manager will save them. They need to spend. And spend big. Anyone who thinks that a top manager will go there on the budget of Wenger and win the league is deluding themselves.
I don't think it is possible for me to have sympathy for Arsenal or Wenger. Fergie kinda went soft towards the end.. probably because he felt sorry for Wenger and what a joke he had become. Can't say I've ever felt that way.If you're beginning to feel a modicum of pity for Arsenal, do yourself a favour and watch the following video.
Believe me, there is no greater cure for your pity.