Arshavin to Arsenal

He's not the new anybody, like most exceptional players he's unique.
 
How many games does it take to see a player with more technique and ability than the likes of Fellaini, Bent, Keane etc? He pretty much ripped up Madrid in the CL even though they lost and has been quality in other games. Now maybe he won't be the most consistent player but he's shown his ability and whether Wenger can get him to apply it in every game is the key but the talent sure is there. Now maybe he may not adapt to the league or whatever but even then I'd still stand by my statement that he's better than the likes I've mentioned above and I'm sure most teams would have him in their team ahead of the likes I've mentioned above too.

Well I think you're giving him too much praise before he's proven himself yet.

Right now I'd take Keane over Arshavin.
 
Well I think you're giving him too much praise before he's proven himself yet.

Right now I'd take Keane over Arshavin.

Really? For the way Arsenal play, he [Arshavin] should slot right in. But they needed a defensive minded midfielder...not a £17m attacker :wenger:

I don't know anything about the Russian league, but surely it's got to be full of hard lads?

Pogetetz and Vidic were there and if they're anything to go by, Arshavin shouldn't have much of a problem with the hardness of English footy.
 
Absolutely, the guy's a class player head and shoulders over the kind of donkeys that have been bought and sold for up to £20M recently. Sure he may not settle, he may find the PL too physical etc etc - but those are the risks you're prepared to take for real class.

Don't get too over-excited there Pete.

'Real class', is that why the only teams that were in for him were Spurs and you lot?

I think it's fair to say every team seen him as someone who could add to the team, but could at the same time be a complete flop.
 
Robbie Keane is not an internationally rated attacker... :wenger:

He's rated for being a Prem footballer and a good fit for mid-table clubs in the Prem... couldn't hack it at a bigger club--->Liverpool.:rolleyes:

Aye, it's not like he's played for Inter before or anything.
 
Really? For the way Arsenal play, he [Arshavin] should slot right in. But they needed a defensive minded midfielder...not a £17m attacker :wenger:

I don't know anything about the Russian league, but surely it's got to be full of hard lads?

Pogetetz and Vidic were there and if they're anything to go by, Arshavin shouldn't have much of a problem with the hardness of English footy.

Well from the one person I know who actually does watch the Russian league, he says it is more physical as you'd expect, and more technical. He also said it allows players to play at their own pace more though, which suits people like Arshavin and the like, IMO.

I'm not sure what to make of him yet, but I really can't understand the hype from some on here.
 
I can easily see Arshavin succeed at Arsenal, he's the kind of player who's nearly impossible to keep quiet through an entire game - just like Messi.
But it's a bit of a luxury signing considering how the rest of the team looks, and I'd personally have prioritized differently had I been Wenger.

I'm just glad Arsenal is more or less out of the title battle, as I'll be able to watch Arshavin rip defenders into pieces without being bitter.


Absolutely, the guy's a class player head and shoulders over the kind of donkeys that have been bought and sold for up to £20M recently. Sure he may not settle, he may find the PL too physical etc etc - but those are the risks you're prepared to take for real class.

You've changed the tune since this summer, Pete...
Point is we know about Keane - he isn't the real deal. Arshavin might be (I think he's not) but for Arsenal or Man Utd is an interesting player while Keane isn't.
 
Don't get too over-excited there Pete.

'Real class', is that why the only teams that were in for him were Spurs and you lot?

I think it's fair to say every team seen him as someone who could add to the team, but could at the same time be a complete flop.
Well you've got Tevez.
 
Absolutely, the guy's a class player head and shoulders over the kind of donkeys that have been bought and sold for up to £20M recently. Sure he may not settle, he may find the PL too physical etc etc - but those are the risks you're prepared to take for real class.

Agreed, Arshavin's definitely the best player in his late 20's that no one had heard of this time last year.
 
Well I think you're giving him too much praise before he's proven himself yet.

Right now I'd take Keane over Arshavin.

I'm sure you and Benitez both would but now at least Benitez has realised now how Keane is just about an above average PL player. The rewards of Arshavin settling and hitting form are far greater than that of the same for Keane.

I sure as hell would rather have Arshavin at United than Robbie Keane too. Arshavin can make the difference in a match, he has the ability. As far as proving himself, UEFA cup final isn't a bad stage and neither is at the Euros where he ripped apart the Netherlands side which was hyped up itself and also ripping apart Real Madrid a CL team in the CL. Obviously he can't be expected to be amazing every match and it's not like he played for the best side in the world. I'm not saying he's up there with the best in the world or anything but it's a top signing imo and if he adapts to the league he'll prove himself as a top player imo. It's also worth the risk for Arsenal at the moment with Cesc out. Sure they could've and probably should've bought a defensive player but buying Arshavin is going to improve them still.
 
Good signing.

His Uefa Cup experience should prove invaluable for Arsenal next season.
 
I'm sure you and Benitez both would but now at least Benitez has realised now how Keane is just about an above average PL player. The rewards of Arshavin settling and hitting form are far greater than that of the same for Keane.

I sure as hell would rather have Arshavin at United than Robbie Keane too. Arshavin can make the difference in a match, he has the ability. As far as proving himself, UEFA cup final isn't a bad stage and neither is at the Euros where he ripped apart the Netherlands side which was hyped up itself and also ripping apart Real Madrid a CL team in the CL. Obviously he can't be expected to be amazing every match and it's not like he played for the best side in the world. I'm not saying he's up there with the best in the world or anything but it's a top signing imo and if he adapts to the league he'll prove himself as a top player imo. It's also worth the risk for Arsenal at the moment with Cesc out. Sure they could've and probably should've bought a defensive player but buying Arshavin is going to improve them still.

And the risks are far greater too. Keane was bought because he was reliable, Arshavin's a massive risk.

Yeah, so he impressed in say 6 high profile matches this season, that's impressive no doubt. But what about all the other times when he wasn't that impressive in his own league. What about when he got dropped because he was so inconsistent?

I don't understand though, why go out on a limb and say he is a top player before seeing enough of him to make that judgement? Why not just wait until he does prove himself for Arsenal?

He might well be a top player, he could equally flop though.
 
. Keane was bought because he was reliable, Arshavin's a massive risk..
The point is (as that post of mine disinterred by Top says) is that Keane is reliably not good enough - Arshavin might be.
 
And the risks are far greater too. Keane was bought because he was reliable, Arshavin's a massive risk.

Yeah, so he impressed in say 6 high profile matches this season, that's impressive no doubt. But what about all the other times when he wasn't that impressive in his own league. What about when he got dropped because he was so inconsistent?

I don't understand though, why go out on a limb and say he is a top player before seeing enough of him to make that judgement? Why not just wait until he does prove himself for Arsenal?

He might well be a top player, he could equally flop though.

peterstorey said:
The point is (as that post of mine disinterred by Top says) is that Keane is reliably not good enough - Arshavin might be.

Agree with peterstorey here, we could sign any above average player who's already adapted to the PL but that wouldn't necessarily improve us.

The other times when he weren't impressive, how do we know this isn't because he wanted a move? Look at the way Berbatov performed for Spurs when he wanted a move.

As for Arshavin being a top player, I mean it as in the abilities there and all he needs is the stage. He may flop but I would still think he has the abilities to be a top player. I mean it's not like it's crazy to see the talent in him... I'm sure most can. I sure hope you don't think Robbie Keane is more talented than him either. I can slightly understand you saying you'd rather have him based on him being proven in the league but I'd rather have someone in the team who isn't proven in the league but has the ability to improve the team rather than someone who's proven to be not good enough.
 
The point is (as that post of mine disinterred by Top says) is that Keane is reliably not good enough - Arshavin might be.
Keane has scored 107 goals in 254 appearances for Spurs .... sounds pretty reliable good enough to me.
 
But you don't want him back, why is that?
Because he threw a major spanner in our summer transfer plans with his unexpected demands to leave, despite earlier pledging his future to the club.

I can see the logic in re-signing him now, but that doesn't mean I have to be happy about it.
 
He's good enough for you but not for a top team as proven.

ahem which one would that be :confused:

EDIT: Apparently this was Arshavins dream move...

EDIT2: He also heard yesterday that from 1930 to 1933 Arsenal won three titles in a row. Wonder why they mentioned that to him... Might have been the grounds for the shaky transfer completion...