Maybe because deep down they know he is inferior to the big 3?
That’s exactly my point. It’s all about these kind of stats. Messi and many other players play a different sport compared to him. He’s great at goalscoring and there’s the golden shoe for that. He’s been important but never decisive in the clubs season. Without him they could’ve won it all anyways. That’s not what happens with Messi, Cristiano, Rodri or KDB.
Well yes, obviously. And I wasn’t saying anything about other topics or other football matters. I was also not referring to other fans discussing this.
Nobody would disagree that Messi isnt a different breed of footballer, but Haaland is a striker. Scoring goals is his job. Those records had stood for decades before Haaland. Anyway im not saying Haaland should have won it, but personally i think the top 3 were objectively very close in what their chances should have been.
Same with VVD
Its because they are Ronaldo fans and cant stand Messi being so far ahead now that their real careers are over.
Some here do actually want that, yeah
Do you think Messi could ever lead Norway to a World Cup?
Do you think Haaland could ever lead this Argentina to a WC with his "non-existent" creativity, playmaking skills?
Go and look what Messi did in the season 2018/2019 with a mediocre Barcelona Team. He can carry a whole Team for sure.
Ya but Norway is not comparable to a mediocre Barcelona team. That said based on messi’s all round ability, he should at least get them qualified for the world cup
I dont know much about the Norway squad but i doubt it.
He wouldn't have to. Modric got one for getting to the semifinals in 2018. If Haaland/Messi gets out the group stage with Norway he's a lock.
Modric got to the final in 2018 and it looked close for a while. Anyway Modric didn't get to the final. Croatia did.
Some United fans decided Ronaldo was better than Messi back in 2009 and nothing that has happened since has changed that, even if it means pushing for rival players to win awards over him.
Its because he's the inspiration for their quest for a six pack and being a petulant narcissistic alpha dog with an inferiority complex towards a midget who's better at football.
If the roles were reversed, and lets say Messi stayed at Barca and he has another insane treble season like in his prime, while Haaland led his nation to the WC, who do you think would have won it?
If Messi played like Messi does which is scoring like pele, dribbling like Maradona and passing like Cryuff. It would be Messi 100%. If he was just a 1 dimensional goalscorer no chance. You said like in his prime so no gotcha.
No gotcha, was genuinely curious. Actually the real question i had in the back of my mind was what more could haaland have done, but I think I have the answer, play more beautiful and less robotic.
Brain freeze, it's 7 am here. Confused 2018 with 2022 (or whatever year that was)
"Ok Haaland, for this year, think less goals, and more dribbles. That will improve your chances at getting the Ballon D'Or"
No one was a better player since Maradona anyway than prime Messi. Neither Iniesta or Xavi won it despite being world cup heroes in a year where Barcelona didnt win the cl. Neither Snejder despite his heroics in the treble and being a key player to take the Netherlands to the final.
Stop scoring, forget breaking records and winning trophies. Just dribble a bit more mate!"I'm bringin' sexy back (yeah)
If Haaland had won the treble whilst playing like prime Messi he would have won it easily.
This year?
Basically improve significantly as a footballer which he isn’t technically capable of anyway.
Yes, its only hard to imagine because its impossible to imagine Haaland play like prime Messi.
I assume you moved on, great
The answer really is "wait for the undisputed BPITW to retire". I'm not a Messi fan, it's just blindingly obvious.
Or he could have turned up in the CL semi’s, in the showpiece final itself, and had a significant influence on the FA Cup final or the European super cup final or whatever. If he scores his goals in those games he’s got a much better chance. Although he probably still isn’t going to dethrone a 35 year old Messi producing an iconic WC display for the ages.
He's not capable of it, but he doesn't need to. If he continues like this and wins trophies, the only ones who will be quibbling about his "lack of all round game" will be the draft forum savants.
