They can't sell them because they're on ridiculous wages. Barca signs someone like Griezmann and he's on like 4 or 500k per week. De Jong almost 400k per week. Dembele 300k. Messi probably close to 750k per week. Players won't accept to leave and get paid less. That's why Real Madrid could never sell Bale.
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
The other la liga clubs want Messi to stay hes too important to the league. So tebas has been checkmated by Messi and Barcelona and tebas has no choice now. They have to make an exception for Messi. Especially since Barcelona and Madrid are opposed to the CVC la liga deal as well. Its all out civil war in la liga. Tebas v Messi/Barcelona and Madrid.
It's crazy to think that with their famed academy that they can't have a few years in the wilderness maybe and concentrate on rebuilding with young players whilst avoiding the temptation for these types of signings. Letting go of Messi might actually be a good thing.What a load of piss. The clubs that destroyed the football wage structure for years with multiple 500k per week deals and the club who signed Griezmann/Coutinho/Dembele for 100m+ deals are the ones taking ffp seriously. Right.
”Too important for the league”
fecking hell we’ve had Henry, Becks, Cantona, Ronaldo…. You just move on.
This Messi thing’s a fecking circus. In a few years he’s gone regardless, what is the utter bollocks.
fecking hell we’ve had Henry, Becks, Cantona, Ronaldo…. You just move on.
This Messi thing’s a fecking circus. In a few years he’s gone regardless, what is the utter bollocks.
I mean they have a few but then decided to load their squad up with old free agents on high wages with Mempis and Aguero again, to add to Griezmann and Dembele and Coutinho who they can't get rid of.
To be fair Messi is the GOAT (for me he is). I can see why they'd want to bend over backwards to keep him.”Too important for the league”
fecking hell we’ve had Henry, Becks, Cantona, Ronaldo…. You just move on.
This Messi thing’s a fecking circus.
Ronaldo was one of the best players in history, some consider him the greatest, did the Premier League give a feck? No.
“Too important”, utter crock of shite.
Goat or not, at some point, you have to cut loose
Ronaldo isn't anywhere near the GOAT triumvirate. Messi is by general consensus a top 2 player ever and in a lot of people's eyes, the greatest ever. There is a difference between their standing as footballers and their value to their leagues. Can't believe I have to explain something this basic.
A question. Why couldn't Barcelona give Messi a symbolic wage i.e. €1 a week and then simply state we will give Messi a "golden goodbye" at the end of his 5 years (basically backdate his entire salary so financially he doesnt lose out).
Would that even be possible under the rules?
Would that even be possible under the rules?
Can sell Pedri, Fati, Ter Stegen and others for big money. They have options.
Just refusing to sell those that are marketable.
That's the bit people miss. As good as CR7 is, he is nowhere near Messi in all time conversations. And when he left EPL, he was a great player but nowhere near the status Messi has today.
If that's the case, I'm not sure what the point of the August 12th vote is. For what it's worth, Real Madrid have publically stated they oppose this agreement and will take La Liga to court.
Too difficult for some to grasp, unfortunately.
Barca have been check mated by Barca. They are currently reaping what they have sowen.
Rules are rules, so no they don't. Especially as Barca have brought all of this on themselves.
So how far off getting Depay and Aguero etc into the squad? Frankly Messi going solves problems for them. Fati, Pedri, De Jong and Ter Stegen is a future for the club, Messi wasn't.
Think it is still €100m. More if the sponsorship was tied in part to Messi.
So Messi refused to come down on his asking price then. The solution was obvious for so long. 1.6M pw is insane and not sustainable at all.
In the great scheme of things this will likely be a good thing for Barcelona if they manage from now on to stop overpaying their players. According to some people in here Barcelona wouldn't exist with all the money Messi brings them but let's see how this goes through for them.
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The only thing you can talk about is when Real Madrid sold their got the requalification of the soil from the training facilities like 20 years ago. however, the fact is that they had that decades ago when it was far from the city, the city grew and they become a place where you want to build (in fact, you can find some of the tallest buildings of the EU over there). Real Madrid sold the space and moved to a different place.
That's all. Comparing that to PSG, City, etc. is laughable. Nobody in the french league, premier league or UEFA cares about them.
We won't be missed yet you are here hahaha.
I'm glad we (still) haven't sold a bit of the club to big corporations as you did to pay the stadium. That would really be very sad.
And yes, you can check TV rights revenues from middle/small clubs and their budget if you don't believe me. Go reading.
1/3 equal
1/3 based on position
1/3 based on TV views
you can like it or not, but it doesn't look crazy or unfair to me.
If you make a fair bid... why not? the thing is that you want to pay pennies for anyone of them because Barça's situation. And again, Barça situation is only due to LaLiga FFP, not UEFA's
It was clear to anyone looking at the numbers and the salary cap imposed by La Liga, that the optimism in him re-signing was 100% dependent on an exemption being provided by La Liga. There was simply no other way without shifting out all of Griezman, Dembele, Coutinho, Umtitti and Pjanic. And even that may not have been enough. La Liga haven't flinched, and here we are. Players have to be registered by the end of the month to be eligible for the season and by September 2nd to be eligible for the CL. If Barca were going to pull a move, it was now or never.
I have zero doubt that this is a move to invite pressure on La Liga, but one should also consider that this is a way for the two to part company without either taking the blame. Which is probably a unique opportunity. It'll be interesting to see what happens, because like most of you, I don't think is definitively decided yet. What is for certain is that between this, the ESL, and the CVC deal, Spanish football is in civil war.
I have zero doubt that this is a move to invite pressure on La Liga, but one should also consider that this is a way for the two to part company without either taking the blame. Which is probably a unique opportunity. It'll be interesting to see what happens, because like most of you, I don't think is definitively decided yet. What is for certain is that between this, the ESL, and the CVC deal, Spanish football is in civil war.
A necessary abortion. His salary had become a monster and the club was literally crumbling. Now they can focus on improving the contracts of their promissing youngsters (Fati, Pedri, Mingueza, Moriba?, etc).
Oooh there’s an exciting conversation for some sad arses to have. I won’t.
Top players come and go. Always have, always will. Pretending Messi is some God like creature too important to be allowed to leave is hilarious.
Then don't.
barcelona aren’t in favor of it either surprisingly
I haven’t and won’t, cause I’m not a sad feck.
Then don't.
Go and steal more tv rights money from smaller clubs.
The same as before him for fecks sake. Two of the World’s biggest fecking football clubs and an incredible league.
What the holy feck are people smoking when it comes to putting Messi on this ridiculous pedestal?
Sad, tedious and childish. You’ll do well here,
maybe another 8 years in the newbs
Anyone ever accused of being self-aware?Sad, tedious and childish. You’ll do well here,
maybe another 8 years in the newbs
congrats on joining the ignore list.
Heartbroken.
Barca are dirt for 2 years yet last season Messi had most goals, most assists in La liga and he had most MOTM in European leagues. Yes I can understand people saying don’t pay that money but Barca are finished without him.
I bet you know literally nothing about the history of tv rights in spain or the current system.
Maybe you read a tweet and a headline and that's all you need. Hahaha.
That was overturned a while ago:
https://dwfgroup.com/en/news-and-in...over-18-million-in-reverse-state-aid-decision
But the tax part was ratified recently:
https://www.euronews.com/2021/03/04...nish-fooball-clubs-received-illegal-state-aid
Insane that 'Ronaldo not being one of the best players of all time' was allowed to sneak up in here, it's completely irrelevant anyway since he's not competing with fecking Pele for eyeballs right now!
MEMPHIS NUMBER 10????? CLUB IS DUSTED. I USED TO PRAY FOR TIMES LIKE THIS TO RHYME LIKE THIS? REST IN PISS!!!!!
Literally Messi was the one who brought Barcelona into the conversation about biggest clubs in History,
Did you even realize how many leagues Barca won under Messi? Before he arrived to Barca , Real Madrid had almost double the league titles Barcelona had (29 to 17)....not only that, but also did upset RM many times even with CR7 at his peak.
He literally broke every single record in La Liga with Barca.
Now that he is probably gone be ready to see Barcelona even struggling to get a CL spot.
Can't compare with the impact of CR7 in Man Utd, as United was the biggest club in Premier League before Cristiano arrived, Barcelona was so behind behind Real Madrid before Messi became a starter player for them is not even funny.