Sign him up Fergie.
Bastian Schweinsteiger
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Has Ten Hag been sacked yet? We're not sure and we hope not, but it's looking more likely as the days pass.
Who should replace him and why is it taking so long to make a decision?
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I'd be very surprised if we did end up getting up, but at the same time I'd be even more surprised if the club isn't actually looking into the possibility of making it happen. I think he'd be an absolute monster for us, and be a perfect piece in the central line to form our next all-conquering team for which most of the foundation has already been laid.
your talking 20+ mil with the typical united tax and them being scroooooogey bastards 
Translation "He is too valuable for us, under no circumstances would we allow Bastian to leave...
Unless you offered us say, 25 million Euro!?"
Really, really should be in for him.
Our midfield is shite...
Our midfield is shite...
Shh. You will offend some people here. We have a fantastic squad of potential world beaters.
yes but with shite CM. And with Scholes near retirement it won't get any better.
We should really go for him.
He's 26, would get a good 5 years out of him if not more, one of the few worldclass CM's available.
Top of the league with shite CMs
I agree that Schweinsteiger is class and exactly what we need once Scholes departs us though.
He only problem I can envisage is that we don't really have a midfield partner to suit him. In fact, Anderson would be his best partner on paper, in my opinion. The only problem is that Anderson is extremely inconsistent and he has yet to show that he can make that step further. I don't think that either Carrick or Fletcher would be ideal partners for him. Scholes would be the best, but he's close to retirement. If we bought Schweinsteiger, I think buying someone to play along side him would be inevitable to be honest.
Depends on how we set out to play really. Fergie's been tinkering with the 4-2-3-1 setup a bit lately, and that's where he's shone the most when I've seen him play. Fletcher would be ideal next to him, but in my opinion we don't really have anyone who fits naturally in "the whole" in that formation as of right now.
In matches against opposition that isn't considered top notch, I think he would work well enough with Fletcher in a 4-4-2, but possibly even better with Anderson as you mentioned.
Anderson's best game for you was in the hole in a 4231 last season away v Chelsea. He still doesn't look a like a CM to me.
Anderson is best as one of the 2 in the middle, his ability to run the ball past the oppositions midfield is his most creative assest
For Germany he played alongside Khedira, who to me seems very similar to Fletcher. For Bayern he played alongside Van Bommel, and although we don't really have anyone that similar to him we have Carrick who plays the same sitting role just with more of an emphasis on passing or we have Fletcher who has the tough-tackling, keep-it-simple similarity of style, with a bit more of an emphasis on forward running.
He's never really excelled (or played?) alongside someone like Anderson so it's hard to say how he'd do, I think.
Anderson? Unless he dramatically changes he isnt exactly the player i'd imediately think of putting along side Schweinsteiger.
speaks volumes about Fergie's managerial skills doesn't it? There's no team that excelled so far in the season and all the top teams have underperformed.Top of the league with shite CMs
I agree that Schweinsteiger is class and exactly what we need once Scholes departs us though.
It's not like we don't know there's a problem in CM. With Scholes near retirement and Fletcher having not so good season I don't think we will win the league with what we've got. The season is long.
We're 2 CM short of having a really well balanced team.
He runs the ball past them loses it and then he's out of the game.
25 million now in Jan may be the difference between the title and going empty handed.
worth a punt.
worth a punt.
Neither Bayern nor Germany played typical regular 4-4-2 systems as we do. Both have an abundance of players that pack the middle. Ozil did it for Germany in the World Cup for example.
Fletcher could work, but I think that would mean that Schweinsteiger would need to play a lot more attacking role than he does at the moment.
What I am talking about is if you have Schweinsteiger in his normal role which is a deep lying central midfielder, who would be best for him?
I don't think we played a typical 442 - I'd say Ozil stays very high up the pitch, as did Muller, and occupies a similar role to the one we've given Berbatov over the last couple of years. Even if we have done, I can't see Fletcher or Carrick struggling in a similar system to Germany's. Can you?
And besides that, the fact that we have an extra attacker should make it less important for us to have someone creative - like Anderson - rather than more, should it not?
I think if we played a 4-4-2 with Schweinsteiger alongside Carrick/Fletcher, I think we would have the same problem that one can say we have now in midfield, albeit with better personnel. A two man combination of Schweinsteiger with Carrick/Fletcher is pretty defensive.
Ozil played further up the pitch, but he was still a midfielder. Berbatov is not going to play in a 4-5-1 system for us. We still play a 4-4-2 when push comes to shove.
Schweinsteiger/Fletcher is quite a good match for Schweinsteiger/Khedira in role terms. You don't play 442 very often if at all.
I dunno, look at it this way...
Here's Berbatov against Blackburn and Everton last year:
Blackburn
Everton
Everton
Here's Ozil against Australia and Serbia.
Australia
Serbia
Serbia
Ozil's number 8, by the way. You can't see his number properly in the Australia game because the substitute Cacau occupied pretty much the same position, which is what I'm talking about really. Ozil played a clear line ahead of midfield, whether you want to call that attacking midfield or second striker is up to you, but they're both almost exactly the same distances away from goal and ahead of their midfield (if anything Berbatov's closer to our midfield and further from goal).
Also worth noting that their midfielders line up in similar positions, and again if anything it's Germany's midfield - and Schweinsteiger v Australia in particular - that is further forward. That's only because Australia got battered, though. Still it shows that they don't occupy different spaces even if the way they interpret the roles are different, I think.
Regardless over how we distinguish between formations we can see that positionally they're not that different, and that the difference between what we perceive to be 433 and 442 doesn't really matter because of how it's applied, in this case.
I'd say Schweinsteiger would do very well in a 4-4-2 against most premiership teams, with Fletcher anchored alongside him Bastian would be immense. It's the 4-3-3 in Europe where he'd probably shine the most though.
Fletcher -- Scholes
---Scweinsteiger--
Nani--------Giggs/Whoever
-----Rooney------
Tasty tasty.
Fletcher -- Scholes
---Scweinsteiger--
Nani--------Giggs/Whoever
-----Rooney------
Tasty tasty.
Exactly!Top of the league with shite CMs
We would be immense if we can bring in two top class midfielders.
In Europe, with our midfield, we will fall short.
I strongly expect Chelski to spend some dough this summer.
I think he was being sarcastic. We do not have shite CMs you gimp.
There are definite similarities in his international pairing with Khedira and a potential Fletcher pairing, but I can't help thinking a pairing with Carrick might be even better suited.
i reckon the league position, while relevant, doesn't tell the full story.Top of the league with shite CMs
I agree that Schweinsteiger is class and exactly what we need once Scholes departs us though.
Chelsea are on the slide and the others haven't got their act together. Its in the CL the lack of quality will show.
Because we are playing at our best too right?
Today's twitter rumor is that he had decided to come to united according to the german press.
I hope its not just a rumour.
I'd love to see him at United, not trying to jinx it but he's such a quality player. Schweinsteiger and Fletcher would be a great mix, both can get about the park, both are tidy footballers, both are very good without the ball, one is exceptional with it. It would be a good ballance.
I don't know what the future holds for Anderson, he showed so much promise at first but he just seems to have gone backwards and further backwards.
I don't know what the future holds for Anderson, he showed so much promise at first but he just seems to have gone backwards and further backwards.
I don't think a Schweinsteiger addition would mean bad news for Anderson. If anything, it could be good news.
Could this transfer actually happen then?
Question is would Fergie even be interested?
I don't really see what's the fuss over him to be honest. Seems similiar to Michael Carrick with probably abit more balls of steel.
I don't really see what's the fuss over him to be honest. Seems similiar to Michael Carrick with probably abit more balls of steel.
Even if that's all he was then that would be excellent. Carrick's a great bloody player that just doesn't seem to have the belief and hunger to truly be the best he could be.
But Schweinsteiger also has Fletcher's drive and ability to get around the pitch (actually, he's probably more like Fletcher than Carrick in terms of how he plays), plus throw in some extra pace, power and dribbling ability and you have a very potent combination.
I like Carrick, but Schweinsteiger is literally about three times the player. Some of the reasons why:
1. Aforementioned balls of steel
2. Dynamism/Oomph
3. Charisma/Leadership
4. Winner (German)
5. Pace and ability to beat a man
6. More goals
7. Better long-range passing and crossing
8. Much fitter bird
9. Name meaning pig-mounter
10. Mounts pigs
The German is exactly the type of player Anderson can learn from and get better alongside.
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