Benjamin Sesko | Salzburg | Leipzig

Teja said:
Has he been any good? Don't think he even starts for (a fairly weak) Leipzig team right?

All I've heard about re: Leipzig was that Xavi Simmons has apparently been good.
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He only started after a lot of injuries, he's struggled overall.
 
Quite some start against Leverkusen today. Shhould’ve scored twice and had a big part in the opener.
 
More the profile we need than Hojlund, who I maintain was targeted largely due to the success of Haaland. Often happens when a striker excels then that becomes the profile to look for. The thing is, even Haaland himself would not been targeted by City had he not been an exception in terms of scoring. Haaland is tolerated by Guardiola as opposed to him being his ideal template I believe. Similarly with Kyle Walker. The purist in Pep would much rather Cancelo than Walker, but Walker is effectively a cheat code and so Pep lives with him.

Sesko is more a United striker than Hojlund for me, certainly in terms of profile. The most ideal striker we could get is the very best version of Anthony Martial. A 6ft player with speed, hold up play, finishing ability but also supreme technique who can conjur individual magic and dribble and also link with his fellow forwards at the highest level. Sesko is more that sort of player I feel, although it is of course to be determined what level he will end up at.
 
Rozay said:
More the profile we need than Hojlund, who I maintain was targeted largely due to the success of Haaland. Often happens when a striker excels then that becomes the profile to look for. The thing is, even Haaland himself would not been targeted by City had he not been an exception in terms of scoring. Haaland is tolerated by Guardiola as opposed to him being his ideal template I believe. Similarly with Kyle Walker. The purist in Pep would much rather Cancelo than Walker, but Walker is effectively a cheat code and so Pep lives with him.

Sesko is more a United striker than Hojlund for me, certainly in terms of profile. The most ideal striker we could get is the very best version of Anthony Martial. A 6ft player with speed, hold up play, finishing ability but also supreme technique who can conjur individual magic and dribble and also link with his fellow forwards at the highest level. Sesko is more that sort of player I feel, although it is of course to be determined what level he will end up at.
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In what way is Sesko more the profile than Hojlund? They are roughly the same height with Sesko only cm taller, Hojlund is way quicker, also had a way better goals to games ratio when they both played in the same league, infact he helped Sturm Graz smash Salzburg when they were both on the pitch against each other. They have the same amount of goals each season too. Sesko is nothing like Antony Martial and is actually more like Hojlund in terms of profile. The fact that you think Hojlund only came to prominece because he's scandinavian and shares a similar name to Haaland is crazy.
 
L1nk said:
In what way is Sesko more the profile than Hojlund? They are roughly the same height with Sesko only cm taller, Hojlund is way quicker, also had a way better goals to games ratio when they both played in the same league, infact he helped Sturm Graz smash Salzburg when they were both on the pitch against each other. They have the same amount of goals each season too. Sesko is nothing like Antony Martial and is actually more like Hojlund in terms of profile. The fact that you think Hojlund only came to prominece because he's scandinavian and shares a similar name to Haaland is crazy.
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Neither have proven to be very good right now.
 
L1nk said:
In what way is Sesko more the profile than Hojlund? They are roughly the same height with Sesko only cm taller, Hojlund is way quicker, also had a way better goals to games ratio when they both played in the same league, infact he helped Sturm Graz smash Salzburg when they were both on the pitch against each other. They have the same amount of goals each season too. Sesko is nothing like Antony Martial and is actually more like Hojlund in terms of profile. The fact that you think Hojlund only came to prominece because he's scandinavian and shares a similar name to Haaland is crazy.
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Your post didn’t really need to be any longer than the very first line, unless of course you preferred to answer the question yourself.

Sesko is technically better to me and better at dropping deep and linking. Hojlund is a shoulder player who requires ‘service’. I don’t see him as having the ability to join in and play to a good enough standard in deeper areas.

As for the Haaland comparison, it is again a case of a striker who is not like the striker I mentioned in the paragraph above (or in my actual initial post). Prior to Haaland’s emergence, the consensus on here was that the striker needed to be more of an all-rounder.

Also, please miss me with the stat overload. I made it clear in my initial post that I was referring to profile and said that it remains unclear as to what level he will reach.
 
Rozay said:
Your post didn’t really need to be any longer than the very first line, unless of course you preferred to answer the question yourself.

Sesko is technically better to me and better at dropping deep and linking. Hojlund is a shoulder player who requires ‘service’. I don’t see him as having the ability to join in and play to a good enough standard in deeper areas.

As for the Haaland comparison, it is again a case of a striker who is not like the striker I mentioned in the paragraph above (or in my actual initial post). Prior to Haaland’s emergence, the consensus on here was that the striker needed to be more of an all-rounder.

Also, please miss me with the stat overload. I made it clear in my initial post that I was referring to profile and said that it remains unclear as to what level he will reach.
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Is Sesko really that much better as a playmaker that you think he would find the same time, space and usage on the ball he is now/has before compared to what Hojlund has had so far in the Premier League i.e extremely minimal? I'm genuinely asking because I've not seem much of him outside of some highlights.

Outside of inexperience and of course proven goal scoring, which both players share, Hojlund biggest weaknesses for me are aerial duels, back to goal hold up play and inconsistent technique. However, generally speaking whenever he has the ball in decent space (i.e not fighting a long ball or with a defender breathing down his neck), his all around play is quite mature. Simple but effective. He's not dictating play but he usually gets the ball out of his feet and makes progressive plays. Time and time again he has laid the ball out to Rashford, Garnacho and others only to receive it back maybe once out of ten times.

I'm not sure you've been watching him properly because he doesn't look like someone, who is just hanging off a defender's shoulder and waiting for service. On the one hand, he does at time seem quite uninvolved and I would criticise him for not looking to do that more but at the same time, his service has been absolutely abysmal. Put Sesko in this situation and he would be just as bad because there's no way he's going to get on the ball enough to shine. Nobody in this team is shining.
 
Looking at the young Cf market feels like Isak is one we really should have gotten. Him and Hojlund would have been a strong young strike force. Based on the clips Sesko looks better on the ball than Hojlund - no idea about his end product and all. Ideally we’d have a more ready / less expensive striker but if that’s not available two high potential talents will do.
 
L1nk said:
In what way is Sesko more the profile than Hojlund? They are roughly the same height with Sesko only cm taller, Hojlund is way quicker, also had a way better goals to games ratio when they both played in the same league, infact he helped Sturm Graz smash Salzburg when they were both on the pitch against each other. They have the same amount of goals each season too. Sesko is nothing like Antony Martial and is actually more like Hojlund in terms of profile. The fact that you think Hojlund only came to prominece because he's scandinavian and shares a similar name to Haaland is crazy.
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He seems to have quick feet and more talent with the ball at feet like Isak of Newcastle. Not seen enough of the rest to say he would have been better for us.
 
L1nk said:
In what way is Sesko more the profile than Hojlund? They are roughly the same height with Sesko only cm taller, Hojlund is way quicker, also had a way better goals to games ratio when they both played in the same league, infact he helped Sturm Graz smash Salzburg when they were both on the pitch against each other. They have the same amount of goals each season too. Sesko is nothing like Antony Martial and is actually more like Hojlund in terms of profile. The fact that you think Hojlund only came to prominece because he's scandinavian and shares a similar name to Haaland is crazy.
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He's definitely more comfortable on the ball than hojlund.

It's not necessarily a negative on hojlund's part obviously, diffrent players diffrent strengths etc etc.
 
Saw him in person last year and was highly unimpressed with him to be honest. Only one game I know, but he had absolutely no impact on the game in any capacity.
 
As a Slovenian I can say he needs at least 3-4 years before we should consider him. Right now he's a midtable Bundesliga quality striker.
 
Sounds like Arsenal are moving in here. Good business by them. They need options in front of goal.
 
Makes sense we would be in for him. Seems to perhaps have a higher ceiling than Havertz but still raw. He would be behind Havertz as a backup. I think we are all curious to know if Havertz end of season form will carry on or not. Would be a good addition without upsetting anything.

I see this one happening but Chelsea always seem to go a few quid over us...or 10 of millions.
 
He is very raw still but has a boatload of talent. He has a lot of technical ability for his size.

I hope he goes to another league and not to Arsenal/Chelsea.
 
Changeisgood said:
Makes sense we would be in for him. Seems to perhaps have a higher ceiling than Havertz but still raw. He would be behind Havertz as a backup. I think we are all curious to know if Havertz end of season form will carry on or not. Would be a good addition without upsetting anything.

I see this one happening but Chelsea always seem to go a few quid over us...or 10 of millions.
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I feel your squad needs that additional attacking option to take the next step. None of this false 9, link up playing Jesus / Havertz types - have a focal point up top to go long to from defence and for the attackers to just cross the ball to. I don't think it's as simple as a back up .. both players will have their roles in the squad and will get picked depending on the opposition / tactical needs.
 
Teja said:
I feel your squad needs that additional attacking option to take the next step. None of this false 9, link up playing Jesus / Havertz types - have a focal point up top to go long to from defence and for the attackers to just cross the ball to. I don't think it's as simple as a back up .. both players will have their roles in the squad and will get picked depending on the opposition / tactical needs.
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If this kid comes in, that would likely spell the end of Jesus' time. Jesus since his WC injury jas been a squad quality player at best. Potentially, we could sell both Jesus and Nketiah. Martinelli could be the last option upfront if needed. It makes sense to get someone like this for us, as we don't know if Havertz form will persist, and we can bring in someone to compete with him without upsetting the balance we had. Leaves us to spend more in for the Partey replacement and a Odegaard/Saka cover.
 
Changeisgood said:
If this kid comes in, that would likely spell the end of Jesus' time. Jesus since his WC injury jas been a squad quality player at best. Potentially, we could sell both Jesus and Nketiah. Martinelli could be the last option upfront if needed. It makes sense to get someone like this for us, as we don't know if Havertz form will persist, and we can bring in someone to compete with him without upsetting the balance we had. Leaves us to spend more in for the Partey replacement and a Odegaard/Saka cover.
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I could be wrong, but it sounds like the plan is to bring in Sesko (or a different CF) and use Jesus as cover for Saka and the wings. Then offload Nketiah, ESR, and probably Reiss Nelson too
 
If true that Arsenal, Chelsea and ourselves have put an offer for him - I can’t see how we’re not the least appealing for him. Arsenal need a number 9 - the starting berth is waiting for him. Plus his technical skillset May suit their style to a tee.

Chelsea also need a #9, so he could walk in and be a starter for them from the get go.

Will he see Hojlund and feel that he’s going to have to share a lot of minutes and likely be on the bench considerably more.

Possible pessimism I suppose.
 
Hernandez - BFA said:
If true that Arsenal, Chelsea and ourselves have put an offer for him - I can’t see how we’re not the least appealing for him. Arsenal need a number 9 - the starting berth is waiting for him. Plus his technical skillset May suit their style to a tee.

Chelsea also need a #9, so he could walk in and be a starter for them from the get go.

Will he see Hojlund and feel that he’s going to have to share a lot of minutes and likely be on the bench considerably more.

Possible pessimism I suppose.
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I don't think he's a guaranteed starter at any of the three - he isn't a guaranteed starter where he is now, despite a very strong end to the season.
 
Hernandez - BFA said:
If true that Arsenal, Chelsea and ourselves have put an offer for him - I can’t see how we’re not the least appealing for him. Arsenal need a number 9 - the starting berth is waiting for him. Plus his technical skillset May suit their style to a tee.

Chelsea also need a #9, so he could walk in and be a starter for them from the get go.

Will he see Hojlund and feel that he’s going to have to share a lot of minutes and likely be on the bench considerably more.

Possible pessimism I suppose.
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In what world would Sesko walk in to be a clear starter over Nico Jackson but not over Rasmus Höjlund? Of those two, on an individual level Jackson had the better season by just about any imaginable metric. His finishing became a bit of a meme during the early parts of the season but he was a whole different beast since AFCON.

I don't think any of the three interested clubs (Chelsea, Arsenal, Utd) are going to offer Sesko a guaranteed starting role and wherever he goes he'll have to do well to earn his place. All three clubs need a striker this summer but not necessarily a starting one due to Jackson, Höjlund and Havertz/Jesus already being pretty good. Sesko fits the bill for each club as he can definitely grow into becoming the leading striker but he doesn't have to do it all just yet.
 
Rnd898 said:
In what world would Sesko walk in to be a clear starter over Nico Jackson but not over Rasmus Höjlund? Of those two, on an individual level Jackson had the better season by just about any imaginable metric. His finishing became a bit of a meme during the early parts of the season but he was a whole different beast since AFCON.

I don't think any of the three interested clubs (Chelsea, Arsenal, Utd) are going to offer Sesko a guaranteed starting role and wherever he goes he'll have to do well to earn his place. All three clubs need a striker this summer but not necessarily a starting one due to Jackson, Höjlund and Havertz/Jesus already being pretty good. Sesko fits the bill for each club as he can definitely grow into becoming the leading striker but he doesn't have to do it all just yet.
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I’m guilty of completely forgetting the existence of Jackson which is bizarre given how helpful he was for me in Fantasy League.
 
didz said:
I don't think he's a guaranteed starter at any of the three - he isn't a guaranteed starter where he is now, despite a very strong end to the season.
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They offered him a new deal and will make him a star player next season if he accepts
 
Cassidy said:
They offered him a new deal and will make him a star player next season if he accepts
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I'd heard he'd been offered a new deal. I hadn't heard of any special assurances he'd been given.

Either way, I don't think he's a guaranteed starter for any of the clubs linked with him.
 
didz said:
I'd heard he'd been offered a new deal. I hadn't heard of any special assurances he'd been given.
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I don't really think they need to. During the season he clearly improved his standing, started on the bench while regularly getting minutes to develop in the beginning, but finished as clear starter in the second half of the season along Openda.

Forsberg and Werner are gone and Poulsen clearly is past it, so only Andre Silva returns as reasonable other option and he has never impressed at Leipzig before. It makes a lot of sense to assume that Leipzig would like to have Sesko/Openda as their starters next season, especially if Sesko takes the improved contract.
 
Rnd898 said:
In what world would Sesko walk in to be a clear starter over Nico Jackson but not over Rasmus Höjlund? Of those two, on an individual level Jackson had the better season by just about any imaginable metric. His finishing became a bit of a meme during the early parts of the season but he was a whole different beast since AFCON.

I don't think any of the three interested clubs (Chelsea, Arsenal, Utd) are going to offer Sesko a guaranteed starting role and wherever he goes he'll have to do well to earn his place. All three clubs need a striker this summer but not necessarily a starting one due to Jackson, Höjlund and Havertz/Jesus already being pretty good. Sesko fits the bill for each club as he can definitely grow into becoming the leading striker but he doesn't have to do it all just yet.
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Every player needs to earn his starting spot in all these 3 clubs. Trossard started a lot more than Martinelli in the 2nd half of the season for Arsenal. He is the type of striker who needs services and supports from midfield and the wings, same as Höjlund.
 
Really hope we avoid this type of striker.

We need someone who can play in balls to our inverted forwards consistently - ie our new Martial.

Hojlund is good enough for this Sesko type of striker role. We dont need another.
 
DontBeMeanToBeRuud said:
Really hope we avoid this type of striker.

We need someone who can play in balls to our inverted forwards consistently - ie our new Martial.

Hojlund is good enough for this Sesko type of striker role. We dont need another.
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He makes more sense for a team like Arsenal than United for sure.

Hojlund is basically a slightly more developed version of Sesko. Not exactly stylistically but just in terms of where they are in the development at the moment. I'd say Chelsea and United are both in need of a more experienced striker like a Toney or whatever that can come in and compliment the young budding strikers we already have.
 
WeePat said:
He makes more sense for a team like Arsenal than United for sure.

Hojlund is basically a slightly more developed version of Sesko. Not exactly stylistically but just in terms of where they are in the development at the moment. I'd say Chelsea and United are both in need of a more experienced striker like a Toney or whatever that can come in and compliment the young budding strikers we already have.
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I don't want any part of Sesko personally. Don't think he's any better than Jackson.

The only striker who is potentially available that moves the needle for me is Gyokeres.
 
TheMagicFoolBus said:
I don't want any part of Sesko personally. Don't think he's any better than Jackson.

The only striker who is potentially available that moves the needle for me is Gyokeres.
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Would he even have to be better than Jackson though?

Fact is we need another body up front but given Jackson's highly promising second half of the season I would be hesitant to buy anyone who would be guaranteed to displace him (ie. Osimhen). With Sesko it would be an evenly matched fair competition for playing time and whoever's on better form would play. Having Jackson and Sesko as options up front would allow for some tactical flexibility too due to their differences as players.

If not Sesko or Gyokeres, then who?
 
Rnd898 said:
Would he even have to be better than Jackson though?

Fact is we need another body up front but given Jackson's highly promising second half of the season I would be hesitant to buy anyone who would be guaranteed to displace him (ie. Osimhen). With Sesko it would be an evenly matched fair competition for playing time and whoever's on better form would play. Having Jackson and Sesko as options up front would allow for some tactical flexibility too due to their differences as players.

If not Sesko or Gyokeres, then who?
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I mean the pipe dream is Rafa Leao staying upfield in the left half space but doubt that's feasible. If we can't get him or Gyokeres honestly I'd rather go into this coming season with Jackson / Nkunku / Palmer false 9 / whoever as central options as opposed to taking another flier on a prospect at this point given the talent influx happening summer 2025.
 
Ahmer Baig said:
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I think the best scenario also for United, if he'd moved now it would likely not be to us, so we can get our house in order in the mean time and if he continues his development we can always go for him next year if we have the need
 
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