I'm confused, he said the Welsh football team was shite, so you hypothesized about calling England shite, so I hypothesized about you calling Kenya a shithole country, referencing trump calling Kenya a shithole country, but you actually like England and the England football team and you don't like the Welsh booing the British national anthem, which, with them being part of Britain, is their own national anthem anyway. So to cut a long story short, you're defending the British anthem by being racist, hypothetically?
Booing during national anthems...
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
Haha I am. Albeit technically half Welsh, but I try and forget about that (no offence Cascarino).
I'm down to the last drops of this bottle of vodka and I've reread it three times and I think you've won. God save the queen should be replaced by Tom Jones though
My mother's side is English and they're the reason I have hair, so while I might argue with your lot during international tournaments, I can never take offence for long
not being disrespectful towards fellow european countries = utopia? Those are low standards for a utopia
To be fair it’s not uncommon to imply it rather than say it directly. It‘s definitely annoying. I think for most people it‘s a difference though because Germany is kind of known for not being shy about admitting guilt and a living culture of rememberance.
I think not, but it would‘t be surprising if the person was racist, as this wording is known to be used by racists. But by my understanding of racism, this isn‘t, because I don‘t see an actual racial/biological connection. Context matters.
I supposed it was. I havent seen it and I dont really care. Does the fact Italians booing the Austrian anthem give any more class to English booing the Danish?
The Italian players weirdly boo their own anthen. At least that's what it sounds like.
I agree with the OP. It's a dumb old song. Who cares. The queen doesnt need saving she's 1500 years old, she survived, you did it.
I personally dont boo anthems, since booing a dumb old song seems even sillier than caring about it but eh.
I agree with the OP. It's a dumb old song. Who cares. The queen doesnt need saving she's 1500 years old, she survived, you did it.
I personally dont boo anthems, since booing a dumb old song seems even sillier than caring about it but eh.
If you don't really care why you bothering to comment
At this point I think you’re getting paid
It's nice, and kinda disappointing, showing some people up for what the are.
Sat night....2300 the religion sets alarm for 0900 next morning - he must find a post, any post, to reply to in the "are the English in fact Nazis" thread.
0909 the religion does find a post to reply to, but his reply is more than disappointing. Why did he bother?
Back to bed with you the religion.
0909 the religion does find a post to reply to, but his reply is more than disappointing. Why did he bother?
Back to bed with you the religion.
Yes, I won I won! Mummy, the nice man on the computer said that I won!
What did I win?
God Save Tom Jones as a national anthem?! Bloody booby prize.
You are indicating that Italian fans booing justifies that English do the same. I think it shows low class whereas you clearly dont. Thats fine with me.
I've not said its acceptable. Far from it. Please don't make things up.
My issue is with the likes of you failing to acknowledge it's not just an England fan thing by making comments like "it's what I expected" or " it doesn't surprise me" etc.
Why exactly is it "disrespectful" and "classless" to boo a song?
A bit childish perhaps, but then again it's 80.000 grown men and women going nuts over some guys kicking a ball around.
If you're offended by something so incredibly harmless, you should really switch to watching golf or tennis.
A bit childish perhaps, but then again it's 80.000 grown men and women going nuts over some guys kicking a ball around.
If you're offended by something so incredibly harmless, you should really switch to watching golf or tennis.
Complaining football fans have behaved 'classless' is a completely redundant complaint. It has never been a prerequisite in the game and only ever comes up when a bunch of outsiders who have no understanding of the game jump onto the bandwagon. Coincidentally it's largely been driven by BBCs and ITVs diversity hires.
Once again, the newbies continue to cover themselves in glory.
I think it's classless. For many players getting to represent their nation at a major tournament is a very rare occurrence that may not happen again for them, so booing the moment is a bit low grade. It's just one of those things, where I think a bit of respect is in order.
That being said, it is definitely not something to get all that worked up about, and certainly among the least important issues in terms of fan culture.
That being said, it is definitely not something to get all that worked up about, and certainly among the least important issues in terms of fan culture.
Just curious but when did hooliganism enter football fan culture? I've read before that the reaction by the Germans (even to the controversial goal) has been very cool and it just seems a million miles off what football has been (and still is) now.
That's one hell of a hot take! I'm trying to imagine one thing is related to the other but I just can't piece it together.
In the 70s and 80s I guess. Interestingly the term 'ultra' comes from the film adaptation of A Clockwork Orange where the protagonist Alex refers to his violent escapades for pleasure as 'ultraviolence'. The film was released in 1971. It's a great novel and worth looking into the subtext of it as it isn't really about what the early hooligans derived from it.
One doesn't cancel another. It is to be expected from English fans but it's not only an English thing.
I expect snow in Engelberg in the winter, does it mean it's the only snowy place in the world?
Sorry I forgot to add salty Germans and general European anti-English xenophobia.
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Can certainly understand the English being apathetic for national anthems, given how shite theirs is. Not in melody, but in message. As Eddie Izzard said:
If it helps, apparently they've been booing Nigel Farage too.
€10k fine incoming…
You mean imperialism?
Yes, all countries were once empires. Even those that were subjugated by empires were actually empires.
Stick your cappuccino up your arse
I get it's a bit but it's not really accurate is it? We well overperform when it comes to Olympic gold medals.
It's a quote from 20+ years ago, I don't know what the medal situation was like back then.
It's the women and minorities, innit?wtf man
How do you work that one out?
It’s such a weird jump to make from the guy, damn diversity ruining the beautiful game
The likes of me ? I havent failed to acknowledge anything. These sort of things seem to me to follow large crowds and England has that always. Anyway, I dont care about your issues with the likes of me. Having said that I shouldve kept my mouth shut. Enjoy the rest of your evening.
can’t lose with class either
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