I think he will get this week to turn it around. Doesn't get much harder than Spurs midweek and the derby against Schalke next weekend to do it though
Borussia Dortmund 17/18 | Sky Germany: Lucien Favre to be next manager
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I don't really know, not that well informed when it comes to Dutch football but for the sake of them I hope he is not.
I just think it's stunning that Dortmund always manages to find managers who are incapable to change their system and adept to fast teams that always hurt them on the counter. People always bash Mou for his boring style but I have never seen any of his team consistently being this naive about defending.
Bosz isn't lasting much longer at this rate. They've been awful defensively any time I've watched them this season.
Getting the picture, he will not last more than 1 weekI think he will get this week to turn it around. Doesn't get much harder than Spurs midweek and the derby against Schalke next weekend to do it though
Tbf to Klopp or Tuchel they were exposed at Bundesliga level but they always were competitive at Champions League level, Bosz is just making them reach a new shit level, they couldn't beat Apoel in 2 matches.
Burki is just awful.
What i don't get about their defensive line is that regardless of what's happening elsewhere on the pitch, they seem to always be stuck on the half way line, surely the understand basic rules of defending ala if there's no pressure on the ball, drop back. I remember the Madrid match, although they were applying good pressure you just knew they were going to be beat cause the defensive line was doing things that weren't in accordance with the game.
Bosz should have been sacked before the Bayern game. Leaving him in charge during the international break is fecking criminal.
Terrible.
I think given that Wagner is coaching a poor side that has to play on the back-foot quite a bit he'd be a good option for them. He's had to learn how to organise a deep defence which the likes of Klopp or Tuchel haven't a scooby doo how to do.
Why? Today he made no mistake. That was all Bartra's doing. You can't blame the kerper for that.
Have you seen Stuttgart's 2nd goal?
When are they gonna sack this tool? He is dragging them down.
How is he gonna save that? His own defender is blocking his sight. That was just ublucky.
Ah come on, you can't just completely absolve Burki from any blame there.
Well, they didn’t face anybody good in their first wins and lost against every good team. Their opening schedule was very easy and the results therefore flattering/deceiving.
The 1-0 happens because he first stays on his line instead of sweeping up the ball - then, after Bartra gets it for him, he suddenly rushes out for no reason instead of keeping his distance, hence he can't control the pass which Bartra played into his feet - which of course was a mistake by him, but one which was created by Bürki.
Generally speaking he's a good keeper, but it's becoming more and more clear that he has a problem with pressure.
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And bring in who exactly?
Where are our BVB posters at? Something something superior modern footballing tactics and counterpressing something something? Gone missing, what a surprise.
Pulisic probably looking for a way out, they can have Mkhi back as partial payment 
That guy has been absent for at least 6 months.
I saw the keeper already well off his line and coming out yet Bartra still played it to him, and at fairly decent pace. Both screwed up but the defender could have played elsewhere as he had control.
Burki was all over the place those first few minutes.
The first goal is 80% Bürki's fault. He comes running at Bartra, who is clearly about to pass back to him, like a complete moron and bungles the touch. He's cost BVB so many points already, at some point you have to say maybe getting paid millions to be a top team GK is not quite his thing. A top team can't afford such a clown.
Beyond doubt they should have a much better keeper than Burki if they want to do anything in europe. Again last season in the Monaco second leg he just parries the ball back into the box first five minutes and Monaco score.
Watch them bid 30m for Mingolet.....
Watch them bid 30m for Mingolet.....
1 point in the last 5 Bundesliga games. They had lead of 5 points after first 7 games and now after 14 games they might do 9 points behind Bayern.
Seems just like Klopp, as a club Dortmund don't signing center halves all that seriously.
You mean the club which is supposedly the shining light on how to be run as a club isnt actually run all that well? Shocker.
I've watched them now against Bayern and Stuttgart and they're a long way from the team that had their best ever start to a Bundesliga season. Bosz has two games coming that he dare not lose - Spurs in the Champions League and Schalke for obvious enough reasons. Saw them against Spurs at Wembley about two months ago wasn't overly impressed.
Who are the likely managerial candidates if they did can the Bosz?
Klinsmann in with a shout?
Klinsmann in with a shout?
Klinsmanns reputation as a manager is quite low in Germany since his Bayern stint, so not really.Who are the likely managerial candidates if they did can the Bosz?
Klinsmann in with a shout?
If no miracle happens he will lose both games.
They need to either get Favre or go for someone like Hasenhüttel or Nagelsmann so they finally get a manager who is capable of other modes than positioning his defensive line at the half line no matter what or who they play against.Who are the likely managerial candidates if they did can the Bosz?
Klinsmann in with a shout?
First Tuchel, now Mislintat- strange goings on at BVB. Arsenal got a gem
We should move to take him away from this BSTs. Him in that position we play Mata against Newcastle will be ace.Pulisic probably looking for a way out, they can have Mkhi back as partial payment
So, Arsenal are about to poach Sven Mislintat from BVB. Kicker and Bild reported something was in the works a few days ago, SportBild and DerWesten now claim it is done respectively almost done. (The Mirror claiming Zorc is moving is surely a case of mistaken identity worth of a 7 year old kid, not a paid reporter)
Mislintat had been chief scout for many years and has in recent years climbed to a sort of Technical Director position at BVB.
He's one of the main reasons for all the unbelievable transfer scoops BVB managed over the years.
He's also surely a main reason why Tuchel was fired from BVB, with Tuchel and Mislintat completely falling out last year.
He's basically a cult figure at BVB.
Bayern tried to poach him without success in summer, other clubs tried too.
This should be a major coup for Arsenal, and a severe blow for BVB. Another leak in the hull of an already sinking ship? Would be interesting to hear from our resident BVB fans, @Sphaero etc. , if they weren't in hiding already.
Another question is how much change better scouting will mean for Arsenal's end product, what with Wenger still pulling all strings. By all accounts, Arsenal current chief scout was supposed to be great too.
Mislintat had been chief scout for many years and has in recent years climbed to a sort of Technical Director position at BVB.
He's one of the main reasons for all the unbelievable transfer scoops BVB managed over the years.
He's also surely a main reason why Tuchel was fired from BVB, with Tuchel and Mislintat completely falling out last year.
He's basically a cult figure at BVB.
Bayern tried to poach him without success in summer, other clubs tried too.
This should be a major coup for Arsenal, and a severe blow for BVB. Another leak in the hull of an already sinking ship? Would be interesting to hear from our resident BVB fans, @Sphaero etc. , if they weren't in hiding already.
Another question is how much change better scouting will mean for Arsenal's end product, what with Wenger still pulling all strings. By all accounts, Arsenal current chief scout was supposed to be great too.
While I agree that he has a good track record, I would not use superlatives. For every Lewandowski there is an Emre Mor or Sebastian Rode. Pulisic and Weigl are/will be great, but you didn‘t need super powers to identify Reus or Dembele for example.
So how long has Boez got left?
He'll be gone at the weekend when they lose to Schalke.
I think he should try to get some job outside of managing football teams as he surely has no clue about how to get teams playing to their potential. Tuchel was a sociopath and the BVB board had its reasons to fire him, but at least he was good at managing a team. Bosz is completely overwhelmed by the job at his hand.
With the chief scout leaving the club right now the future of BVB isn't looking too rosy at all at the moment.
Just can't get over how bad their defence is. This is a major european club we're talking about, not some second division team.
Pulis or Big Sam would probably improve things, that's how bad it's getting.
Being serious, their next manager needs to be a bit more pragmatic. Get a proper defensive structure in place e.g. don't park your back 4 on the halfway line, have proper defensive midfielders and then bank that the likes of Pulisic, Reus (if he can stay fit for 5 minutes) and obviously PEA can win games with individual brilliance.
A little like Zidane did when he first took over at Real Madrid. Made them more solid and then of course Ronaldo wins the game.
Pulis or Big Sam would probably improve things, that's how bad it's getting.
Being serious, their next manager needs to be a bit more pragmatic. Get a proper defensive structure in place e.g. don't park your back 4 on the halfway line, have proper defensive midfielders and then bank that the likes of Pulisic, Reus (if he can stay fit for 5 minutes) and obviously PEA can win games with individual brilliance.
A little like Zidane did when he first took over at Real Madrid. Made them more solid and then of course Ronaldo wins the game.
I do not really think it is defense, system or coach - even if nothing of this is really ideal. It is the whole structure of this team. It is nice to have young and promising offensive players, but the most important is to have a relieable backbone in the team, leaders that aren't that just by name but by nature. And as good as a player like Aubameyang is - he is a bad apple with his attitude and lack of discipline.Just can't get over how bad their defence is. This is a major european club we're talking about, not some second division team.
Pulis or Big Sam would probably improve things, that's how bad it's getting.
Being serious, their next manager needs to be a bit more pragmatic. Get a proper defensive structure in place e.g. don't park your back 4 on the halfway line, have proper defensive midfielders and then bank that the likes of Pulisic, Reus (if he can stay fit for 5 minutes) and obviously PEA can win games with individual brilliance.
A little like Zidane did when he first took over at Real Madrid. Made them more solid and then of course Ronaldo wins the game.
If you play such tactics you need to have a combination of commited workhorses and young and hungry talents. Not players with a "status"... There spine or established players are players that in the past have been hyped talents at Dortmund that came back when they could not make it elsewhere and haven't really gotten back to the form they have showed then.