WensleyMU
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Odd how its fine to call leave MPs all names under the sun but as soon as someone makes a comment about the Scottish Nationalist theres suddenly a problem. The hypocrisy doesnt go unnoticed.
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The Scottish National Party, the third biggest in the Commons, sticking up for the interests of those who voted for them. Where is the hypocrisy?Odd how its fine to call leave MPs all names under the sun but as soon as someone makes a comment about the Scottish Nationalist theres suddenly a problem. The hypocrisy doesnt go unnoticed.
All other MP's manage to discuss it as a UK wide issue, including a number of SNP MP's.Last time I checked Scotland is still part of the United Kingdom
On the face of it, it just prevents the immediate crisis of leaving with no-deal on 31st Oct. However it doesn't prevent no-deal completely, we'll be in the same situation coming to the end of Jan.Can someone explain how this vote to stop no deal will solve anything given May's deal is still the only one on the table and they've all rejected it loads already?
Referring to posters here.The Scottish National Party, the third biggest in the Commons, sticking up for the interests of those who voted for them. Where is the hypocrisy?
On a tagline of "Better Together", which the Tories later modified to "Nah Sod That Let's Wreck Everything And You're Coming Along For The Ride, Scotland".All other MP's manage to discuss it as a UK wide issue, including a number of SNP MP's.
Perhaps he needs a reminder that the Scots voted to remain in the UK, thus, this is a UK issue.
Or did they vote to remain in the EU by remaining in the UK? It seems you are missing some key deciding factors in their UK vote, which have now changed.All other MP's manage to discuss it as a UK wide issue, including a number of SNP MP's.
Perhaps he needs a reminder that the Scots voted to remain in the UK, thus, this is a UK issue.
Neither does your idiocy. Call the SNP whatever names you like it's your bullshit people are opposed to.Odd how its fine to call leave MPs all names under the sun but as soon as someone makes a comment about the Scottish Nationalist theres suddenly a problem. The hypocrisy doesnt go unnoticed.
They did so knowing full well that the conservatives would likely win the 2015 Election, and had promised a referendum on our place in the EU.On a tagline of "Better Together", which the Tories later modified to "Nah Sod That Let's Wreck Everything And You're Coming Along For The Ride, Scotland".
Seemed to me he’s trying to goad them into a no confidence vote to force a GE, same as Boris, that was my interpretation of his waffle anyway.Rees-Mogg says the bill will not deliver certainty on Brexit. It is nothing but “legislative legerdemain”, he says.
There it is, I’m afraid. Setting the stage that they won’t honour it, and will plow ahead with no deal...
I now support no deal.
He could call for a vote of no confidence as that only requires a simple majority instead of 2/3rds of the house. Unsure how likely that is though. @owlo seems to be well clued up.If Johnson moves for an election and Labour refuse to allow it, what happens?
Haha again being completely disingenuous with your argument. You know that Scotland voted to stay on the pretences that we stay in the EU yet here you are making a ridiculous straw man argument.All other MP's manage to discuss it as a UK wide issue, including a number of SNP MP's.
Perhaps he needs a reminder that the Scots voted to remain in the UK, thus, this is a UK issue.
I thought that I'd heard that a govt. cannot call such a vote on itself.He could call for a vote of no confidence as that only requires a simple majority instead of 2/3rds of the house. Unsure how likely that is though. @owlo seems to be well clued up.
Seen a few suggest that you can just put a motion down saying "notwithstanding the fixed-term parliament act, there will be an election on [blah]" which only needs a simple majority.If Johnson moves for an election and Labour refuse to allow it, what happens?
Nah, just guess work at this point... I think somebody in the media mentioned they may try to move it as a law with the election written into it for 14th to satisfy all sides if the 66% fails (and still only need a majority)He could call for a vote of no confidence as that only requires a simple majority instead of 2/3rds of the house. Unsure how likely that is though. @owlo seems to be well clued up.
Ah I hadn't heard that, just read it is possibly any one of the number of avenues the Govt. could go down. At this stage though I'm not sure anybody knowsI thought that I'd heard that a govt. cannot call such a vote on itself.
Or repeal the fixed term Parliament act (which would probably be a good thing long term; it's a terrible bit of legislation).Seen a few suggest that you can just put a motion down saying "notwithstanding the fixed-term parliament act, there will be an election on [blah]" which only needs a simple majority.
I don't see why that would be the case. I believe they can.I thought that I'd heard that a govt. cannot call such a vote on itself.
I'd guess as soon as the A50 extension bill is passed labour will call a confidence motion in him anyway which will probably end in an electionIf Johnson moves for an election and Labour refuse to allow it, what happens?
I thought that I heard it from the BBC reporter earlier. I could very well be wrong.I don't see why that would be the case. I believe they can.
This was my prediction here a few days ago, but I've no idea now really. Has to be an election soon anyway, they are 20 or more short of a majority now....I'd guess as soon as the A50 extension bill is passed labour will call a confidence motion in him anyway which will probably end in an election
The EU referendum was no secret, it was openly discussed by Cameron's government back in 2010, again in 2012 and in 2013, all before the Scottish referendum. The Scots, then voted to stay as part of the UK.Haha again being completely disingenuous with your argument. You know that Scotland voted to stay on the pretences that we stay in the EU yet here you are making a ridiculous straw man argument.
Come on you are smart enough to not make these sort of arguments.
I don't see why a group of tory backbenchers couldn't do it on their behalfI thought that I heard it from the BBC reporter earlier. I could very well be wrong.
Move overThe EU referendum was no secret, it was openly discussed by Cameron's government back in 2010, again in 2012 and in 2013, all before the Scottish referendum. The Scots, then voted to stay as part of the UK.
Only the official leader of the opposition can call a VoNC. Not sure if the government can also do so though.I don't see why a group of tory backbenchers couldn't do it on their behalf
Yeah, I am beginning to think he is a 'genuis' in the Jose sense: an ego maniac psycho who sometimes pulls off major results but as likely to implode as triumph.This government is based entirely around the theory that Dominic Cummings is clever.
Not a revelation, just a thing worth remembering.
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