That's nothing on a national accounts scale. 0.3% of GDP, 1.1% of government budget if I assume government is 30% of budget (which I imagine is higher).
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In other words you want a second referendum to ask people to vote on the exit deal.
yes.
I'm guessing you read only the last post because I already "fixed" those numbers and again if someone doesn't have the same opinion of the liberal/socialists we are trolls, idiots. You guys need to let the USSR ideology to go.
I signed it, but didn't get the email that I need to confirm.In other news...
It's totally broken at the moment.
Oh well, I'm sure it'll pass anyway, so why bother voting for it, eh?
New York Times: Populist Anger Upends Politics on Both Sides of the Atlantic
View from America, decent read.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/25/w...n=span-abc-region&WT.nav=span-abc-region&_r=0
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/25/w...n=span-abc-region&WT.nav=span-abc-region&_r=0
Zarlak said:
Gentlemen, you can't fall out in here - this is the Fallout thread!barros said:
But people vote those governments into power so the effect is the same.
Bottom line is, everyone who has a right to vote, gets to exercise it. And one side effect is the consequences of the vote whether for a referendum or for a representative to serve in Congress or Parliament can have long lasting effects well beyond the immediate future of that vote.
Still the right thing to do.
Quite. And if you're not a troll you're branded xenophobic, racist, an idiot etc. This from supposedly left wing, free thinking, socialist, anti-xenophobic/anti-racist people - the irony is amazing!
There's a reason why the Caf political polls aren't as representative as the real life results and it's not because the Caf is all inclusive, rather the opposite.
I honestly assumed you were being facetious. I thought everyone knew those stats were absolutely bogus and simplistic.
But no, it is not communist to counteract opinion with fact. It is however, a classic fascist trait to try to drag factual discernment down to the level of mere opinion.
I'm leaving this thread and I will be back in a few years to yell on your face - I TOLD YOU!!!!! 
I want England and Wales to go to the euro final just because of their courage.
I want England and Wales to go to the euro final just because of their courage.Like I said in an edit: what they should have done is make absolutely clear what 'Leave' means. Not in the sense of the terms the EU can offer but what the British government will do. A clear, detailed plan should have been made: if 'Leave' wins, Cameron will immediately trigger Article 50 and begin negotiations. Right now the situation is that nobody knows what's going to happen and when.
A two-staged referendum would mean years of total uncertainty. After all, Tusk and co. already warned that negotiations could take 7-8 years.
and so it begins
That would be difficult. Could end up with referendum after referendum until we like the deal.
Quoting.I'm leaving this thread and I will be back in a few years to yell on your face - I TOLD YOU!!!!!
Tough, power to the people. blah blah.
It can not. Article 50 stipulates that once triggered, you will be exited no matter what after two years.
There are lots of reasons to leave the EU but none of them were even part of the general referendum discourse. Amazing really.
Educate me. Go.
If that sounds hostile to you then let me assure you the mood is worse at the continent. I pity the fool who will conduct the trade deals Britain need with the EU. It won't be nice
Farage has already said this number was a 'mistake'. He obviously lied to everyone and didn't take into account anything (currency crashing, quite a big chance of increasing unemployment as some companies will leave UK etc...).
Germany, France, Great Britain and Italy are all bigger economies than Russia and only smaller than USA, China and Japan. You should just stop making a fool of your self now as it's clear you have no clue what your talking about.
It was bad enough with Mrs T - wait 'til we getta load of Mr T.
*Hm...derp, I've nothing substantial to bolster my opinion and better bail out before it is getting too embarassing. But but if all turns out yummy...in a few years maybe...then I'll be back, yesyes*I'm leaving this thread and I will be back in a few years to yell on your face - I TOLD YOU!!!!!
We are not allowing you feckers in our non EU space without implementing our demands.
Seriously guys you're screwed. Malta's PM described leaving the EU as a suicide and we're in your friend list.
I doubt it. This is where leadership plays a part. Set the frames properly, make it clear what you are voting for - that if the first referendum goes through, it is to be expected that the 2nd will also and that negotiations will happen on this basis. Make clear what possible outcomes there can be for the 2nd referendum before the 1st one is even made. Make it clear that there will be no 3rd referendum.
Your politicians don't even know when you intend to trigger article 50 or what specific terms you hope to get out of it. This referendum looks more like an opinion poll than an actual vote. Except its binding.
If negotiations regarding the shared market and trade regulations do not end in that timeframe, the World Trade Organisation rules will automatically apply to Britain after the exit which indeed does have to happen within two years unless all 27 EU member states agree to an extension.
Which is another reason why this was monumentally stupid.
The most surprising is Wales voting to leave. They gain the most from the UE, alongside Northern Ireland.
What do you expect them to say?
"The company is going down the tubes, run for your lives!"
My Nan had new windows and a new kitchen because of EU funding; today, she's living in a tent (without windows).
Read the thread, it was more about the fact that most companies will have already conducted risk assessments, markets have already recovered, most international companies work without boarders. The fear mongering and panic by the Caf is staggering.
But we've already discussed that post and I've no desire to repeat myself...
Addendum - they gain the most from EU, out of any country in the EU. Instead they've put themselves in the hands of a London tory government.
It's like a darwin award nomination.
Also lads, don't get yourself arrested on holiday.
She does have the sheep to keep her company though Steve. Silver linings an all that.