There is equal blame on the now 50-60+ group who loaded the world up on debt with everything the banks could offer them. The same group who led this leave vote and have again risked all our futures.
If Cameron didn't want Tusk or co. there, Tusk and co. wouldn't be there. When you give the power to your politicians, you are also giving them the responsibility to choose the EU leaders. No EU leader can get that position without being supported by the leaders of Germany, France and UK.
But they are elected by the people we elected democratically that's the purpose of representative democracy.
Credit to voters who googled 'What is the EU?' after they voted to leave it?
BJ can. The man is a total Moron. He's the UK's version of Trump.
Some of the responses
Schulz as President of the EU parliament is democratically legitimated. Because in order to obtain said position you need to be a MP. The MPs are elected during the EU elections nobody usually cares for.
Let's see how she likes the consequences of the Right wing side of the Tory party gaining power for the foreseeable future.
Exactly. The idea that people think that the EU will now submit to every demand we is laughable. If they were willing to make a deal they would have done it when Cameron went to renegotiate.
Exactly, it's the most democratic institution that I know and for example Junker isn't elected at the simple majority but at the qualified majority by the council of the European Union.Schulz as President of the EU parliament is democratically legitimated. Because in order to obtain said position you need to be a MP. The MPs are elected during the EU elections nobody usually cares for.
Tusk is the president of the European Council. He is a representative figure with no voting rights in said council. The members of the European Council who hold the power are...The PMs of the EU members
Juncker is the President of the European Commission. Said person is elected by the EU Parliament(which gets elected by the people) for a term of 5 years. That falls in line with the voting interval for the EU Parliament itself, i.e. every EU election is followed by an election of the President of the Commission.
So much for that. As usual a great example for the vast array of superficial knowledge your average Brexit supporter has managed to acquire due to hard work and cognitive brilliance
that's what he was trying to say to her with the whole 'BJ coming to give you social justice,' line.
No it's not. And why would you get credit for that? If anything, they deserve to be slapped upside their head for the sheer simplicity of the question, as if they need it summarised in one sentence due to an inability to do any real research. Googling 'European Union' and clicking on the Wikipedia link gives you the answer. And if you're still a bit bamboozled after doing that, the argument doesn't mean much, because your lack of understanding about something doesn't necessarily mean it's wrong. It's more logical to assume that you just don't get it.
It's painfully sad how many people don't understand this. It's even worse when people then propagate their misinformation like they went and confirmed everything for themselves.
No, the purpose of representative democracy is to give the people power over who governs them, not to take it away from them.
I didn't actually, but Farage did his job well enough to get the EU very busy with trying to silence him.
Fair point, but for reasons of hygiene, also after the act you might want to find out wether you've put your dick in an innocent virgin girl or in a ******'s addicted greedy ass.
It does if they see it as a mandate for another referendum about Scottish independence.Some of the responses
"Well Scotland r part of the Uk so did vote 2 leave doesnt matter what their own small vote was"
Should have factored that in before you voted leave.
And that will be the day we stop being a democratic society.
It's all ifs and buts at the moment. It may transpire that remaining would have been the most idiotic financial decision.
True, mate! Democracy has won, hasn't it? Think Europe's going to try and have its way with us after we made our stand? What's this, 1941 again?
The leave voters potentially destroyed my future. They're on some pharmaceutical grade stuff if they expect me to happy about it and 'pull together' to fulfil their fantasy based on Boris's lies that half the country didn't want. And yes, people will say I told you so because it was so incredibly clear up front that it was a ridiculous decision where the negatives of doing it far far far outweigh the negatives of staying in. If we go into a recession and people suffer (look at the state of peoples pensions right now, their value has dropped massively) then they have every right to say I told you so to the people that ignored the voice of almost every. single. expert. on every issue that came up. They will have suffered for that. The issue is actually that if this happens and our economy goes to shit when the remainers do say 'I told you so' the leavers will dismiss it, refuse to take any responsibility or feel any guilt for the mess they created and will find a way to blame it on politicians - or better yet, immigrants.
Tell me how democracy works with a Monarchy, House of Lords, and Rupert Murdoch owning ~70% of the media?
You can say this is a democracy all you what however, there's a lot of people that didn't know what they were voting for and bought into the lies of the leave campaign. Many of the people that voted leave don't realise how negative this move is and it's perfectly possible that many regret their choice. I think if we did another referendum tomorrow remain would win with all the people that regret their vote changing to remain and all those that were over complacent also coming to vote.
I wonder what exactly he expects the remain voters to do(I know it's just a lame tactic of making your opposition responsible for your very own brain fart)?
It's not taking power away from them, they elected the decision makers.
The sad part, the people with experience negotiating deals and experience in government, vast majority of them voted for remain.I wonder what exactly he expects the remain voters to do(I know it's just a lame tactic of making your opposition responsible for your very own brain fart)?
a) email-bomb Juncker *Give us our all-benefit-no-obligations-deal our great empire is rightfully entitled to already!!!*
b) conduct private diplomatic missions to the other 40ish contries outside the EU to spread the gospel of the rapture called free trade agreement with Ingurland
This almost worth a thread: If Brexit fails, it's on the apathy of the Remain voters. What do you expect them to contribute?
Interesting point.
Your post is fuelled by things that just aren't true. The people in the EU are elected. The NHS will be privatised under Boris and Gove, they are both in record as being in favour of it. We have an unelected house of Lords and head of state. Nobody seems to care about that. The potential negative consequences of leaving are far more concerning than the things you can come up with regarding the EU.
You've never lived under a dictator, then, so I'll assure you that Britain is far from being one.
Time will tell whether leaving the EU was the right or wrong thing. But What's the point of having millions of people vote, if the decision of the majority is systematically swept aside because it's not what the MP's were after?
Sounds like a dictatorship to me.
Every single eligible individual in this country had the opportunity to vote on Thursday.
They are democratically elected. We voted them in to make decisions for us.
The only problem with that, is that delaying article 50 for as long as we want, hurts our economy more.
Leave campaign should be put up for treason.
