WensleyMU
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Of course they are cowards, they are literally the definition of the word.
What the feck are you even talking about? Johnson set an incredibly obvious trap for the opposition. If they walked into it, they wouldn’t be brave, they’d be morons.Of course they are cowards, they are literally the definition of the word.
not worth replying to except to say it’s a troll post!Of course they are cowards, they are literally the definition of the word.
Jesus didn't think I'd ever imagine a situation worse than Boris Johnson as PMI mean, I'll be really glad if the Conservatives cease to exist but they'll just disseminate into other parties and sadly the Brexit Party in charge and Nige as PM seem more and more likely
The Tories' tactics now seem to be mainly childish schoolyard taunts like this.What the feck are you even talking about? Johnson set an incredibly obvious trap for the opposition. If they walked into it, they wouldn’t be brave, they’d be morons.
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May must be relieved that he took so short a time to take the title of worst PM in living memory from her. However Cameron must know deep down that he was the one to blame for this whole shit show.Jesus didn't think I'd ever imagine a situation worse than Boris Johnson as PM
I think it's lovely that the pig-fecker is the boy who destroyed the tory party.May must be relieved that he took so short a time to take the title of worst PM in living memory from her. However Cameron must know deep down that he was the one to blame for this whole shit show.
But... but ... that British Bulldog Spirit...??Spare us the pre-school Tory attack lines. There will be an election called within a month or so, and no-one is fooled by the Tories transparent attempts to slip a no-deal Brexit through via trickery.
As for reapplying, it isn’t a gym membership we’re talking about. Even if the EU would readmit us (highly questionable), it would first involve huge economic damage from the original exit and then having to crawl back and be willing to accept much crapper terms than we already have. Yay, we’d be humiliated and much poorer too..
May must be relieved that he took so short a time to take the title of worst PM in living memory from her. However Cameron must know deep down that he was the one to blame for this whole shit show.
And I’m affraid there are far too many Brits who (want to) believe this type shit. They are so ignorant & pig headed that they want the U.K. to crash out of the EU at all costs. They support an untrustworthy PM who’s totally unsuitable for the role. They don’t see Britain as being part of the European continent (maybe they should drag Britain towards America or something) and still live in some kind of nationalistic illusion that Britain is still a super power. This is why Boris & the Tories are heading for a massive victory in the election and why Britain is heading for a disaster. The country will fall apart, the divisions in society will become even greater and large portions of society are heading in to poverty. Democracy will be under threat and as a consequence a new World war is most likely. We’re heading for turbulent times my friends...It's quite possible Rudd has quit to avoid being voted out when the inevitable election happens over the next month or two.
Her majority was practically non existent and she was very lucky to still be an MP after the 2017 election.
I expect a few more will go as well.
The problem we are going to have as things stand is right now, the UK cannot do anything domestically let alone get Brexit concluded one way or the other.
The government party have a minority government of negative 45 or something, the opposition party's are made up of utterly useless labour clowns opposed to everything and anything, a nationalist party that would genuinely welcome the collapse of the UK and a load of minor party's who's sum achievements would fit on a pin head, with plenty of room to spare.
It can't carry on like this but we have cowards afraid of an election (nothing says you cannot reapply if you win the election even if Johnson takes us out...) And the government is run by maniacs. Hang them all on Pendle Hill.
yes he is. If he hadn't given them a referendum then they would have just remained stupid, ignorant and racist.
(and how it affects bad stand-up comedy)
Lots of blame to go around but he started this shit show. He shouldn't have been so arrogant as to use a referendum soley for internal political reasons.Cameron isnt to blame for the British public being stupid ignorant and racist enough to vote for Brexit thinking it meant no Muslims
Who would have thought putting his old fella in a pig's mouth would be the second stupidest thing he would be publically known for?I think it's lovely that the pig-fecker is the boy who destroyed the tory party.
I think there was a growing appetite for a referendum, and I think it would have become an inevitably at some point.He shouldn't have been so arrigant as to use a referendum soley for internal political reasons.
It had been promised by all of the major parties for the last few elections.I think there was a growing appetite for a referendum, and I think it would have become an inevitably at some point.
What is unforgivable is putting no safeguards on the result. The fact we are changing the very constitutional fabric of our country on a majority of 3.8% is insane. There should have been a requirement of a super majority.
You unfortunately don't get to decide the meaning of words you don't like.What the feck are you even talking about? Johnson set an incredibly obvious trap for the opposition. If they walked into it, they wouldn’t be brave, they’d be morons.
Why would there need to be a threshold?It had been promised by all of the major parties for the last few elections.
You are completely right. The referendum was inevitable, it's just that there wasn't a threshold that was the main problem.
No threshold. No planning for either outcome. No detail.It had been promised by all of the major parties for the last few elections.
You are completely right. The referendum was inevitable, it's just that there wasn't a threshold that was the main problem.
You unfortunately don't get to decide the meaning of words you don't like.
They are coward by definition.
In the strategic world of politics. Calling someone a coward in this situation just doesn't cut it.You unfortunately don't get to decide the meaning of words you don't like.
They are coward by definition.
Corbyns been a vocal opponent of the EU for decades. His views were well established until he became the very thing he claimed to hate, career politician doing and saying anything to get the vote.“Corbyn and Miliband are as much to blame for Brexit as David Cameron” is a spectacularly galaxy brain take.
And people still wonder why the left won’t just simply lie down like good dogs and accept the natural order of sensible centrism.
The government is without question impotent, not incompetent, it hasn't been given the opportunity to demonstrate its incompetence.In the strategic world of politics. Calling someone a coward in this situation just doesn't cut it.
You're either extremely naive or trying to deflect from the current government's incompetence.
Sod the appetite. There is an appetite for a referendum on capital punishment but we are a representative democracy for a reason.I think there was a growing appetite for a referendum, and I think it would have become an inevitably at some point.
What is unforgivable is putting no safeguards on the result. The fact we are changing the very constitutional fabric of our country on a majority of 3.8% is insane. There should have been a requirement of a super majority.
I'm with you, I'm against referendums because the large majority of the electorate are idiots.Sod the appetite. There is an appetite for a referendum on capital punishment but we are a representative democracy for a reason.
It is impotent because it is incompetent and has been for a long time.The government is without question impotent, not incompetent, it hasn't been given the opportunity to demonstrate its incompetence.
The opposition are cowards. They have been given the opportunity to demonstrate this.
Are you drunk?You unfortunately don't get to decide the meaning of words you don't like.
They are coward by definition.
You have to either be a complete moron or utterly deluded arrogant shitbag for facebanging a pig not to be the stupidest thing you have ever doneWho would have thought putting his old fella in a pig's mouth would be the second stupidest thing he would be publically known for?
What utter shit! Do you seriously believe walking into a ge now, potentially taking power and having to start cleaning up the utter shitshow that scum like may Johnson and mogg have led us into is sensible? Why don't labour just bend over and grease up in the house of commons like good little Etonian first years while they are at it?You unfortunately don't get to decide the meaning of words you don't like.
They are coward by definition.
I believe these clowns have had 3 years and have achieved the sum total of nothing.You have to either be a complete moron or utterly deluded arrogant shitbag for facebanging a pig not to be the stupidest thing you have ever done
What utter shit! Do you seriously believe walking into a ge now, potentially taking power and having to start cleaning up the utter shitshow that scum like may Johnson and mogg have led us into is sensible? Why don't labour just bend over and grease up in the house of commons like good little Etonian first years while they are at it?
The government is both incompetent and impotent. They're intrinsically linked.The government is without question impotent, not incompetent, it hasn't been given the opportunity to demonstrate its incompetence.
The opposition are cowards. They have been given the opportunity to demonstrate this.
Well yes, because any changes will be expensive to implement and idiots use the ballot to protest the government.Why would there need to be a threshold?
Sounds to me like you would have preferred an vote weighted heavily in favour of the status quo.
This current government hasn't had the chance to do anything to demonstrate its incompetence.It is impotent because it is incompetent and has been for a long time.
And your repeated schoolyard taunt of cowardice is ludicrous. An opposition isn't cowardly for not falling for an obvious trap.
Successive governments I'd argue, not just Tories. Immigration was the major issue at that time and a lot of people blamed New Labour for that for their decisions in the mid 2000s.Well yes, because any changes will be expensive to implement and idiots use the ballot to protest the government.
You will deny it because you're obviously a leaver but a lot of people voted to leave in protest of the Tories.
Of course people used it as a protest vote. That doesn't change anything anymore than those who voted for the status quo because they feared change.Well yes, because any changes will be expensive to implement and idiots use the ballot to protest the government.
You will deny it because you're obviously a leaver but a lot of people voted to leave in protest of the Tories.
Edited as wasn't clear that I meant 'one of those people' as in will deny anything to do with brexit, rather than one of the idiots who voted to protest the Tories
Wow.Of course people used it as a protest vote. That doesn't change anything anymore than those who voted for the status quo because they feared change.
History is full of these types of voters.
They could demonstrate some competence by negotiating this Brexit deal they’ve been telling voters would be such a piece of piss to do since 2016.This current government hasn't had the chance to do anything to demonstrate its incompetence.
I have no doubt it will be incompetent, given the chance, but as yet it's done nothing.
It's hands are tied, it's powerless.
As a country we effectively have no leadership at this point. How is anyone happy about that. All because it might prevent us leaving in October rather than January.