Bundesliga 19/20

Dick Dastardly

New Member
Newbie
Joined
Sep 10, 2019
Messages
73
Supports
Wrexham
To me this is a very average game between 2 average teams.
 

Dec9003

Correctly predicted Portugal to win Euro 2016
Joined
Jul 31, 2015
Messages
5,364
Brainless defending for the penalty, do they have VAR to see if it was offside?

EDIT: They do, given offside.
 

Dick Dastardly

New Member
Newbie
Joined
Sep 10, 2019
Messages
73
Supports
Wrexham
I don’t see TIMO,Werner as a superstar, would probadly do ok in the Championshi.
 

Amar__

Incredibly Nasty Man
Joined
Sep 2, 2010
Messages
18,562
Location
Sarajevo
Supports
MK Dons
Müller with an embarassing dive. Commentators on Serbian Eurosport going wild :lol:
 

Paul_Scholes18

Full Member
Joined
Sep 13, 2014
Messages
5,842
Haven't watched much Bundeliga. Soon as I watch it is 0-0. Although Leipzig missed some insane chances and Bayern had a few.
Werners miss was insane. Even Lingard would have scored that one.
 

GhastlyHun

Full Member
Joined
Dec 19, 2015
Messages
9,157
Location
Bavaria
Supports
Bayern München
Helps us more than them.
As often of late, our performance dropped in the second half. That's something we need to improve to see this season out with any silverware.
 
Last edited:

hasanejaz88

Full Member
Joined
Dec 3, 2017
Messages
2,189
Location
Munich
Supports
Germany
This is why I can never be fully confident in Werner in big games, I always get a feeling he doesn't perform well under pressure.

But then again, he scored twice against Dortmund and multiple in the UCL so I might be overexagerating based on today. But still, I just have that small doubt (similar to Lewandowski).
 

Enigma_87

You know who
Joined
Aug 7, 2008
Messages
24,078
This is why I can never be fully confident in Werner in big games, I always get a feeling he doesn't perform well under pressure.

But then again, he scored twice against Dortmund and multiple in the UCL so I might be overexagerating based on today. But still, I just have that small doubt (similar to Lewandowski).
Watched the game and aye, he was pretty poor. Some unbelievable misses.

RB have a friendly fixture list till the end of the season. Had they won today they could've been the favorites. Had the better chances too.
 

hasanejaz88

Full Member
Joined
Dec 3, 2017
Messages
2,189
Location
Munich
Supports
Germany
Watched the game and aye, he was pretty poor. Some unbelievable misses.

RB have a friendly fixture list till the end of the season. Had they won today they could've been the favorites. Had the better chances too.
I missed some minutes in the second half but what was the second big miss? I can only remember the one where Nkunku played a pass and he was wide open.
 

Enigma_87

You know who
Joined
Aug 7, 2008
Messages
24,078
I missed some minutes in the second half but what was the second big miss? I can only remember the one where Nkunku played a pass and he was wide open.
Can recall some very good chances today - some not 100% chances but apart from the one that you mentioned there was one when Neuer didn't calculate going off his line and Werner was one on one against him, beat him only to kick it straight to Alaba.

If he lifted his head and cut it back he could've found a team mate wide open at the penalty spot with no keeper on goal.

It was right in the beginning of the second half.
 

Annihilate Now!

...or later, I'm not fussy
Scout
Joined
Nov 4, 2010
Messages
36,483
Location
W.Yorks
That Dortmund Bayer game was class.

Between that, the Milan game, the Barca game and PSG vs. Lyon there were some crackers over Europe this weekend,
 

ColoRed

New Member
Newbie
Joined
Sep 7, 2011
Messages
393
Location
Ruhrpott
Supports
Cologne / Manchester
would be nice to see Hertha in the 2nd bundesliga next season :smirk:
 

kaiser1

New Member
Newbie
Joined
Mar 26, 2018
Messages
355
Supports
Bayern Munich
He spent money on their winter transfers like no one else in Europe and he resigned. If next coach does not want the same set of players then what happens
 

do.ob

Full Member
Joined
Jun 19, 2010
Messages
7,187
Location
Germany
Klinsmann has resigned as Hertha coach after ten weeks.
Also worth mentioning that he announced this himself via facebook, citing trust issues with the management. The same management he's now supposed to supervise from his post on the board.

He spent money on their winter transfers like no one else in Europe and he resigned. If next coach does not want the same set of players then what happens
I mean Hertha have really turned themselves into even more of a meme, but to be fair his contract was only running until the summer (according to Bild he basically resigned, because the management wasn't willing to give him an extension at this point), so one would expect that those transfers won't have been tailored to Klinsmann's ideas anyway.
 

Acrobat7

Full Member
Joined
May 13, 2013
Messages
1,325
Even this doesn’t make Hertha interesting. Wolfsburg has more flair then them.
 

uamini

Full Member
Joined
Jun 7, 2013
Messages
233
Location
Berlin
I don't recall a coach ever making a more egoistical move than what Klinsmann just did.

He gets hired, immediately antagonizes a bunch of long-term personnel, gets rid of some servicable players and replaces them with expensive new signings..and a few weeks later he figures this is not what he wants to do? At the very least he could have finished the season and not quit right in the middle of aguably the most important stretch of the season. Hertha is currently playing all the bottom-dwellers in a row (Mainz, Paderborn, Köln, Düsseldorf, Bremen) and they were already off to a bad start before this disruption.

What kind of coach quits over facebook without informing his club first? I suppose we won't see him coach a German team ever again.
 

do.ob

Full Member
Joined
Jun 19, 2010
Messages
7,187
Location
Germany
I don't recall a coach ever making a more egoistical move than what Klinsmann just did.

He gets hired, immediately antagonizes a bunch of long-term personnel, gets rid of some servicable players and replaces them with expensive new signings..and a few weeks later he figures this is not what he wants to do? At the very least he could have finished the season and not quit right in the middle of aguably the most important stretch of the season. Hertha is currently playing all the bottom-dwellers in a row (Mainz, Paderborn, Köln, Düsseldorf, Bremen) and they were already off to a bad start before this disruption.

What kind of coach quits over facebook without informing his club first? I suppose we won't see him coach a German team ever again.
It's not the biggest surprise in the world. Most/all these recent additions don't care one bit about the club. All the clubs who have more money than sense experience this, just look at Hamburg or Wolfsburg.
 

FootballHQ

Full Member
Joined
Nov 17, 2017
Messages
9,780
Supports
Aston Villa
Klinsmann is still living off the 2006 world cup isn't he?

Failed at Bayern a few years after and then so much hype when US appointed him. He did o.k in 2014 World cup but then US generally get to last 16 when they make world cups now (Bruce Arena and Bob Bradley also did it) and now jacks in Berlin even after the board got Piatek for him.

Strange guy.
 

do.ob

Full Member
Joined
Jun 19, 2010
Messages
7,187
Location
Germany
Klinsmann is still living off the 2006 world cup isn't he?

Failed at Bayern a few years after and then so much hype when US appointed him. He did o.k in 2014 World cup but then US generally get to last 16 when they make world cups now (Bruce Arena and Bob Bradley also did it) and now jacks in Berlin even after the board got Piatek for him.

Strange guy.
I think as far as coaching credibility goes his time at Bayern neutralized anything he gained from the 06 WC and he never got sole credit for that either as it was mostly seen as him doing the talking/motivating and Löw doing the tactics. I don't think people in Germany really care what happens in US football either.

I think the most favourable image of him is/was that of a reformer, someone who updates processes and structures to the 21st century and initially he was only coaching as an interim solution in Berlin, because they had to replace their coach mid season.
Hertha also have the problem that they are utterly irrelevant to most football fans. No one cares what Preetz has to say, most people probably don't even know who Gegenbauer is, Klinsmann on the other hand brings a lot of media attention with him, I reckon they also saw him as a suitable face for the club.
 

do.ob

Full Member
Joined
Jun 19, 2010
Messages
7,187
Location
Germany

At this point it might be best to just exclude Schalke from the league, before they can do further damage.
 

Atze-Peng

Dortmund Fan
Joined
Nov 8, 2011
Messages
451

At this point it might be best to just exclude Schalke from the league, before they can do further damage.
I can't find the picture anymore, but Schalke used to have "The Golden Years" as a heading on their website ... regarding their successful during the time of the NSDAP.
 

do.ob

Full Member
Joined
Jun 19, 2010
Messages
7,187
Location
Germany
I can't find the picture anymore, but Schalke used to have "The Golden Years" as a heading on their website ... regarding their successful during the time of the NSDAP.
I don't think that has much to do with whatever stupid jokes their social media department comes up. Neither would I call Schalke a right wing club, I don't think think the club stood by Tönnies for ideological reasons and a lot of fans see him as a disgrace. That being said I've been often surprised how they tend to conveniently forget the historical and political context of their "golden years".
 

do.ob

Full Member
Joined
Jun 19, 2010
Messages
7,187
Location
Germany


Dortmund:Frankfurt kicking off in an hour.
Should be an interesting match (no fullbacks in Bundsliga after all ;)). Dortmund with Hazard for Brandt (injured) which will probably hurt the creative output of the team quite a bit and Piszczek for Akanji (abyssmal) compared to the Leverkusen match. Hakimi/Piszczek vs Kostic could be an interesting matchup (and by that I mean comical). I think it's time Favre tries someone else, be it can or Balerdi. Neither can be worse.
Also not sure if Frankfurt will actually line up in a 4231 shape. Kostic and especially Chandler are more wingbacks than attacking wingers, but I haven't watched them enough lately to give a better prediction.