Real is run by smart people they didn't even suffer to much when Ronaldo or Benzema left, nevermind Casemiro.
We on the other hand...
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Season Average Rating
- Appearances
- 28
- Goals
- 5
- Assists
- 4
- Yellow cards
- 9
- Red cards
- 1
We on the other hand...
He was great last season.
This season he has been absolute dogshit.
We really need to stop bringing in players on their last legs.
This season he has been absolute dogshit.
We really need to stop bringing in players on their last legs.
Let's not go overboard about how good was last season. He had a decent spell October to March but he's been poor outside that.
i hope he leaves this summer. What worries me, beside his poor form, is the huge paycheck. It’s a position we still need to strengthen and his good days are clearly behind him
Casemiro was more than decent last season, but what's relevant now is his precipitous decline. It's a genuine concern and not merely a bout of poor form.
His legs are gone and he can't stay fit. His passing is getting more sloppy, what is there to like?
Still our best long passer from deep which is needed for counter attacking and thats all we're good at. Still wins the ball more than any other player at the club
The problem is that while you arent wrong, despite that we have several other midfielders who are worse and need to leave before him
Is this a particularly outstanding skillset he has or are our midfield options just horrendous at it?
We are clearly lacking a midfielder who can set the tempo with high level passing ability. The fact is that the players who play "number 8" and "number 6" for us there is only one player who is worth keeping and that is Mainoo. Picking a couple of specific aspects of play and saying Casemiro is the best of a bad bunch at them is not enough.
The sad thing is that he seems to have deteriorated even worse than Matic.
Both of them had very similar first seasons where they were good for half of it and poor for the other half. In all the following seasons Matic was poor most of the time, but each season he generally had a two month period where he was still good. Casemiro doesn't even seem to be having that.
In fairness, this midfield setup is horrendous. Matic would have looked half-dead in it too.
And it boggles the mind that a professional outfit has been so oblivious to something so elementary that it is hardcoded into computers games and simulations.
Sheer incompetence to have him run around all-action during an age when physical decline in such roles is underway.
Matic was a far better signing
People have a very skewed perception of how long most players are at their peak, just because some players are still elite doesn't mean that's the norm.
Players who are still genuinely in their prime playing at their peak level well into their 30s are still the exception I think.
Players who are considered to have great longevity tend to get credit for being good considering how old they are, rather than actually still being genuinely elite. Or you have players who were the best in the world at their peak but drop down to just being "good" or "decent" players in their 30s.
A combative midfielder who needs to win the ball and track runners seriously declining at 32 years of age should not be a shock to anyone. It was a short-sighted signing. Matic was even younger when he fell off a cliff. You can't just assume these players will be in their prime until they're 35.
I'm questioning the level of decline being solely down to that. Every aspect of his game has been so much worse this season.
I don't think that's explained by a physical decline due to age.
I think people are forgetting about how Carlos thought Cas was becoming a bit too relaxed in Madrid.
We can talk about if he peaked or how good he was last season for us and why not this season, etc. If you understand why Carolos sold him to us, then the answer is pretty clear at this point and why we need to stop signing these types of players from successful teams.
We can talk about if he peaked or how good he was last season for us and why not this season, etc. If you understand why Carolos sold him to us, then the answer is pretty clear at this point and why we need to stop signing these types of players from successful teams.
Madrid had no say in the matter as it was Casemiro who wanted to leave and not the other way round. United should have been more attentive I agree with. His league form was way off but he was still playing well in the CL. His decline hasn't come as a surprise.
You do know that Madrid usually sells players only when they want to sell? In other words, when they think they have better players to take over the one that they are letting leave. This is basically the case with Case as well.
In this case they weren’t prepared to guarantee him game time I think. Let’s be real, he wasn’t leaving to ‘try the PL’ or anything like that, it was because younger guys were coming into the team in his position and he knew he would start to lose minutes. At his age you then get big money and a 4/5 year deal dangled infront of you and it’s an easy decision.
He was really good last year overall but we ran him into the ground.
A huge waste of money. A professional recruitment department doesn't fall for Madrid selling an old man at the end of his career. It's just negligence. Doesn't matter what fans think or thought, they are supposed to be professional people and to do something that backfires this badly within less than a year when it was foreseeable is poor. This isn't reversible or unlucky, this is buying an old player that plays like an old player within 1 year.
We don't help matters playing a completely open game and midfield. It's not like he's working in a solid structure. We're asking him to be the structure. Maybe he could 5 years ago but not now. The only way he can play PL football is in a decent side with a 3 man central midfield that has other solid players with legs.
We don't help matters playing a completely open game and midfield. It's not like he's working in a solid structure. We're asking him to be the structure. Maybe he could 5 years ago but not now. The only way he can play PL football is in a decent side with a 3 man central midfield that has other solid players with legs.
I actually rather he was injured just so ten hag doesn't start him tomorrow. After seeing that Brentford performance I don't think he cares anymore. It's sad because he was a warrior as a player, weve just caught a tail end. He nosedived within a season.
Why?
If we play compact, he is still useful..
If we play like we do now with big holes, he will be useless
If we play like we do now with big holes, he will be useless
The way we’ve used him from the very beginning has been irresponsible but on the ball and off the ball.
We’ve put him in a position that pretty much exposes all of his flaws. He’s still class and shows bits of technique, passing or tackles/ interceptions that he did at his peak but he’s barely able to have a stable 90min performance nowadays.
We’ve put him in a position that pretty much exposes all of his flaws. He’s still class and shows bits of technique, passing or tackles/ interceptions that he did at his peak but he’s barely able to have a stable 90min performance nowadays.
Out injured means McTominay starting instead in midfield which is worse than a non caring Casemiro.
It's actually not. McTominay was a good asset in the middle vs Liverpool in the FA Cup.
He wasn't great but I don't think he is that bad. Most players' performance have been regressing this season and his is no less than the others. It is probably comes down to the manager's tactic of leaving large space between him and the forward lines, or him having to play with several players who can't keep the balls and help with the defence.
Cheaper, far lower wages, and actually useful for more than a few months.
Man Utd 2:2 Liverpool
New
He doesn't know how to clear
Poor game but great old school tackle at the end
He struggles to do even basic 5 yard passes to teammates.
1/10
Dont know what is more pathetic. His performances and the his gone legs, or that ETH doesn't take him out.
Dont know what is more pathetic. His performances and the his gone legs, or that ETH doesn't take him out.
Shocking. A tiny comic relief alien is controlling him now.
Bit sad watching him being so slow. Was one of my favourite players to watch for Madrid
He’s just in MLS mode. Except we paid 60m for it
Absolutely brutal, no wonder teams have the freedom of the park against us, he plays like a 50 year old.
Just shocking, hard to find the words.
Erik is an idiot for playing him
Erik is an idiot for playing him
Hes so fecking rubbish. Giving the ball away constantly, rash clearances, and slow as feck
Done, can't pass, can't run, can mark. Just washed.
Well, that was a bit embarrassing.
Shocking performance today. Looked like he can't be arsed too. He needs to go.
An absolute clown. Clearly doesn’t give a feck. Strolls around the pitch, laughing and joking and picks up £350k a week for the privilege.
The fan club he has on here is bizzare.
The fan club he has on here is bizzare.