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Chris Smalling 2019-20 Performances

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  1. Aug 29, 2019

    A-man Full Member

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    I agree many write about Smalling in an unfair way and also with a very disrespectful tone. And the lumping together with Jones is totally unnecessary. Personally I see Smalling as very capable player, but wrong type for the team. If Lindelof, Tuanzebe and Maguire is the way to go, only the future can tell, but I can see how they have features that Smalling doesn't have. Goes both ways of course.

    Maybe you don't think about it yourself, but you come out as someone who hates Lindelof. You have been posting absurd amounts about one lost aerial. Something that happens in every game and in this case everybody who have played the game blame Maguire. And no matter whose fault, you come out way over the top when it comes to Lindelof, with emotions that at least can be mistaken for hate. Could be a reaction because you feel Smalling is not appreciated enough, I don't know.
  2. Aug 30, 2019

    KrasHammerhand New Member

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    I will miss him, he was far from perfect but always felt he put in his best effort. I also realize that it is need for us to move on.
  3. Aug 30, 2019

    Ekeke Full Member

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    I've posted more than a few times about it yes as anyone would if something they pointed out ahead of time and people said they were wrong happened. Again, accountability. When you're wrong like I may end up being about Lindelof if he becomes a great CB, and when you're right like when I suggest he's not that good a defender and he has a bad game and his mistake leads to a goal.

    People who can't come up with a good argument as to why something is wrong will often resort to saying someone "hates" someone else. I've been called a "hater" of many players. Hargreaves, Berbatov, Fellaini, Lindelof the ones that I can remember.

    Never hated a United player. Sometimes hated how they were used by management.
  4. Aug 30, 2019

    Andycoleno9 Full Member

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    Wait, that Smalling vs Lindelof is still a thing? Bloody hell, some of you are really stubborn bastards:)
  5. Aug 30, 2019

    Foxbatt Full Member

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    I am not his biggest fan either and I think he is our 3rd CB but to let him go right now is a stupid idea I think. It is a good move to Smalling if he gets established with Roma. He will get more experienced in playing in a different league and probably would become a better defender in Italy.
  6. Aug 30, 2019

    Martialfc New Member

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    I feel like I’m the black sheep here. I have never really had a problem with Smalling. I’d go as far to say that out of our current CB’s he’s number two in my eyes behind Maguire. I genuinely think he’s better than Lindelof. I agree Smalling isn’t the best with the ball at his feet but he’s still a solid CB. I feel like the hate he gets is unjustified and unfair we have far worse players in our squad and it’s a mistake to let him go.
  7. Aug 30, 2019

    Ultimate Grib Full Member

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    He’s going to be 30 soon, that’s as much value as someone my age now practicing and learning algebra or smth equally ridiculous :lol:

    The Smallimg apologists thinking he will walk into the Roma team, be first choice and take Serie A, a predominantly defensive league, by storm are heavily deluded but we are in the Smalling thread, so that’s a given :houllier:
  8. Aug 30, 2019

    criticalanalysis Full Member

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    Really? One of the most cliche but inherently true things said by anyone, who plays the game is 'don't let the ball bounce'. You simply do not lose a header/ball, you are facing, seeing all the way, coming from that high angle 70 yards away. The thing is, he has history of it. He did it last season against Brighton too. Funnily enough, Smalling was literally 5 yards next to him for that 'cover' and yet we still conceded because of it.

    It's a fundamental failing. You cannot excuse or deflect that.
  9. Aug 30, 2019

    Andersonson New Member

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    Been here since the longest. Always got stick by our fans, even though he hasnt done anything wrong as a person. I rate him as a player and his personality. We need better, but fans rating Fosu-Mensah, Jones and Bailly over him are clueless.

    If he goes to Roma its because his good. Not a bad club at all. Jones, Bailly or Rojo aint good enough for Roma. We leave the worst behind.

    Anyways, good luck to him
  10. Aug 30, 2019

    A-man Full Member

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    Anybody can miss a header and everybody does. But the other defenders must cover simple as that. I have seen this commented by several players and they all come to that conclusion. One example from Maguire former team mate Simpson:

    “I know what you’re saying about him trying to play offside at the start but I think once that’s gone up in the air I think it’s just a basic rule.

    “If somebody’s going up to win it it’s just a basic rule that you cover either sider, whether it’s [Aaron] Wan-Bissaka and Harry.”
    https://www.express.co.uk/sport/foo...arry-Maguire-Crystal-Palace-Manchester-United
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    A-man Full Member

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    Ok. But if you often come out a different way than intended, it could be because when you write about those players (Lindelof for example) you do that in a
    very contemptuous way.
  12. Aug 30, 2019

    romufc Full Member

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    Fair enough but the fact remains that Lindelof and Maguire are first choice. We have too many CB's and there is no interest in Jones.

    What gets me is that we rejected Rojo leaving to Everton but sending Smalling on Loan?
  13. Aug 30, 2019

    jackal&hyde Full Member

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    He's not good at it but Rojo has some versatility playing both CD and LB. Shaw gets injured, as he did..., we have a 34 year old converted winger as backup; having another option there, no matter how mediocre, is important IMO.
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    kiristao Full Member

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    The only reason I see for keeping Jones and moving Smalling is that Jones is better on the ball. If he can stay injury free (and that's a big if), I think he will be 4th choice behind Tunazabe
  15. Aug 30, 2019

    Bastian Full Member

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    Good luck Chris.
  16. Aug 30, 2019

    stubie Full Member

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    More deadwood out of the club so can't complain at all

    I have my doubts over Ole but at least he is getting rid of players who have long outstayed their welcome
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    Virgil Full Member

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    Agreed. Whether right or wrong its history now. Chris has gone. Wish him well and thank him for his contribution. Harping on as to whether Smalling or Lindelöf is the better player is totally pointless. It is evident that Ole is attempting to follow the City and Pool model of being able to play out from the back. In the last couple of years from what has happened in the PL it sure looks as if it is the way to go. Only time will tell whether he is right or wrong. The problem is that currently he does not have the midfield players to link/support defence and attack. Assuming he survives it may be possible to address that issue in January even if as SAF always reckoned there was no value to be had in that transfer window.
  18. Aug 30, 2019

    John Johnson New Member

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    He's shit. I'm happy we got rid of him. Jones next please
  19. Aug 30, 2019

    marktan Full Member

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    I'll miss him. Been one of our better more consistent spots post fergie. Extremely solid defending, just let down by having no ball playing ability. Hope he does well.
  20. Aug 30, 2019

    Sylar Full Member

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    Im happy for him and hope he does well at Roma.

    But ive been reading a lot about how this could end up being a mistake. The only way its a mistake is if letting him go is the difference between getting 4th and not getting 4th. I dont see how it will be though given the number of seasons weve had him post Fergie as our top choice and have ended up outside of 4th.
  21. Aug 30, 2019

    Lee565 Full Member

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    Dont know what it says about the club that smalling was not content being a rotation player considering he never had an issue in the past with the same role.
  22. Aug 30, 2019

    LVGSdive New Member

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    He was incredible when we had LVG and very good under Sir Alex.

    Good luck Smallinho.
  23. Aug 30, 2019

    Amar__ Incredibly Nasty Man

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    Just goes the show the difference in mentality between him and Jones/Rojo who are rotation option for years and couldn't care less about not playing regulary, it's all about picking their money and enjoying United's facilities. Just another proof that people should never include and compare him with those, especially because he was actually far better and more reliable player for us than any of those ever were.

    Anyway, good luck, I hope he will do well there.
  24. Aug 30, 2019

    Based Adnan New Member

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    What makes you think this was Smalling's doing? He played a very limited role in pre season and we all know we want to play out of the back.
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    Lee565 Full Member

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    I get the idea of wanting to play out of the back but he was still around 3rd or 4th choice and with the Europa league to contend with as well it's not like he wouldn't have got about 20-30 games this season for us
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    siw2007 Full Member

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    Smalling is a very good defender, he has shown over the years that he is good at winning aerial duels as well as reading the game, tackling and out muscling, also is a strong goal threat. Not a world class defender by any means, he always has errors or a few stinkers in a season in him, obviously finds it difficult against the likes of Aguero, Salah etc like most defenders in the league do.

    His main weakness is that he is just no good with the ball at his feet, either fumbling it about or just not passing out well which is why he has lost his place in the team. If he can settle in Rome then he will probably be a good player for Roma.

    Best of luck to him, hope he is successful there.
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    Ultimate Grib Full Member

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    Can we finally shut this thread :drool:
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    roseguy64 Full Member

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    He could easily come back this season if there's a CB crisis and a recall option in his loan.
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    dwd Saturday Night Spies

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    Unlikely, has that ever happened before?
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    Stadjer Full Member

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    Hope he does well. Still prefer and trust him more to defend a lead than Rojo/Jones/Bailly
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    roseguy64 Full Member

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    Never has
  32. Aug 30, 2019

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    Is the recall option confirmed?
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    roseguy64 Full Member

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    Nope. Just that they're paying his wages, no buy option and there's a fee.
  34. Aug 30, 2019

    Dve New Member

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    i regarded Smalling as backup for Maguire. For all his lacks, Smalling is dominant in the air.

    If he was a better passer, he would have been a good center back.
  35. Aug 31, 2019

    tentan Full Member

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    Again United mess up. The wrong centreback left, it shouldve been Jones or Rojo.
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    Majima Full Member

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    He was rock-solid along with Blind for a period of time under LVG. Back when he was Smalldini. Good times :D.

    Thank you for the FA cup & Europa League final wins.

    Good luck to him in Rome. Hope he enjoys the culture.
  37. Aug 31, 2019

    RooneyLegend Full Member

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    This club is run by clowns. Theres no way anyone sensible would let him go without trying him and Maguire together.
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    Still think he's the third best defender at the club but hopefully Tuanzebe can step in. Good luck Mike.
  39. Aug 31, 2019

    criticalanalysis Full Member

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    Of course anybody can miss a header but that's like saying you're fine with your striker missing a chance from within the 6 yard box. Except it's not just one header or one chance.



    4 mins in.

    He has history for it but you're just accepting indecisiveness and mediocrity.

    You talk about cover. Look at Smalling covering there 2 yards away from him. We still conceded. He has history of it and for you continue to defend him then claim others are hating, who has the bias here.
  40. Aug 31, 2019

    Foxbatt Full Member

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    Why not? He may have better IQ than you? Being close to 30 is nothing important if a player is fit. Giggs played much longer and in Italy they know how to defend.