Club Ownership | INEOS responsible for the football side

Ali Dia

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This!

Imagine if the decision had been made to sack ETH and we did it with no contingency/preparations made? Imagine how dumb that’d make INEOS look?

It’s savage, but that’s football.
As the athletic piece said today. If we weren’t looking around at new managers while the best candidates were all in discussions we’d be negligent. It’s not nice for ETH but that’s football. It’s a constant arms race for the very best talent out there. ETH can have no complaints if he gets sacked after losing this final. If he wins then I will feel for him somewhat as he’s been dealt a shitty hand this season but I’d imagine he’s probably lost most of the dressing room after the shambles of a season and how little he was willing to change to halt the slide.
 

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Your last paragraph says “the people at the club who earn £25k working in the catering/ticketing/stadium tour departments, and they shall be punished for it”.

What Ineos are doing isn’t targeted at those people at all. It’s targeted at the needless bloat that crept in under the watch of Woodward and his banker mates. The offices in London as well as Manchester and the inefficiencies in non-football crucial areas of the club.

It’s easy to say they should just sack all the managers (they have sacked a lot of them) and leave all the workers alone, but that’s too simple and infantile an argument. Changing a broken culture in real life isn’t that simple.

Why not give them the benefit of the doubt, and see what the place is like to work at in 3 years time. Throwing the toys out of the pram now, when they’ve only been in a wet week and have inherited a shitshow doesn’t make any sense at all
And it was a generalisation about departments who earn the lowest having their bonuses and canteen removed/slashed. That's why it was in that part of my post and not in the bit about WFH.
Comprehension skills lacking?

And you are very much generalising from a position of ignorance about the organisation at OT, and essentially labelling unknown numbers of staff members - working people - as 'bloat', whereas I'm someone with personal experience of working in that environment.

I find it ironic that you use the phrase 'throwing your toys out of the pram' for criticising Radcliffe's methods, when that appears to be his actual business plan, after just - as you put it yourself - a wet week.
 

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I envisage a lot of turbulence in early stages of their takeover once aggressive changes start happening and people aren't happy to be on the chopping block.
 

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And it was a generalisation about departments who earn the lowest having their bonuses and canteen removed/slashed. That's why it was in that part of my post and not in the bit about WFH.
Comprehension skills lacking?

And you are very much generalising from a position of ignorance about the organisation at OT, and essentially labelling unknown numbers of staff members - working people - as 'bloat', whereas I'm someone with personal experience of working in that environment.

I find it ironic that you use the phrase 'throwing your toys out of the pram' for criticising Radcliffe's methods, when that appears to be his actual business plan, after just - as you put it yourself - a wet week.
Fair enough if I misread that. I still find the incessant whinging premature and silly.

He has come in and fired pretty much the entire executive director level. They have clearly been the ones held accountable for the state club has been left in.

You have shared your personal experience and explained to us how broken and toxic the working environment is. Can you not see that fixing that isn’t a simple and fairytale fix? It takes difficult and abrasive decisions that will obviously upset some people who have grown comfortable with the status quo.

Give him a year or two and judge him then. If staff are still being mistreated at that stage, then whinge. But give the people who have come in to try and fix what you yourself have said is broken, at least a chance to see what they can do.
 

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The worst possible result for Jim.

I’m sure there was a part of him that wouldn’t have minded us getting twatted to make the inevitable sacking more palatable for the fans.
 

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The worst possible result for Jim.

I’m sure there was a part of him that wouldn’t have minded us getting twatted to make the inevitable sacking more palatable for the fans.
He can just not sack him, though. Unless it's Glazer mandated, of course.
 

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So ETH and another report had mentioned a complete new training ground while a report today and a report from Mike Keegan mentioned that it would a partial rebuild.
 

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What the feck was that about yesterday SJR hugging Pep while treating Ten Hag like a leper and having a face like a smacked arse most of the game?

Its really shitty how they’ve hung Ten Hag out to dry during the run in. I don’t understand why they continue to treat him with such little respect.
 

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What are the repercussions now ourselves and Nice have qualified for the EL?

Can two teams participating in the same competition who have the same shareholders make transfers between one another?

Wondering whether this will end the chase of Todibo if a temporary transfer ban between the two clubs is put in place.
 

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What are the repercussions now ourselves and Nice have qualified for the EL?

Can two teams participating in the same competition who have the same shareholders make transfers between one another?

Wondering whether this will end the chase of Todibo if a temporary transfer ban between the two clubs is put in place.
pretty sure they can but you have to ensure you have different directors running each club or something

however, I'm not sure this has been looked at let alone resolved by Uefa so maybe they'll investigate it

with the red bull clubs they investigated to make sure the decision makers at each club were different
 

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pretty sure they can but you have to ensure you have different directors running each club or something

however, I'm not sure this has been looked at let alone resolved by Uefa so maybe they'll investigate it

with the red bull clubs they investigated to make sure the decision makers at each club were different
That's true, they have transferred players amongst one another haven't they? But when they have done so, have they been in the same UEFA competition?
 

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If the Red Bull teams of Leipzig and Salzburg can compete in consecutive Champions League seasons with no issue, then it’s going to be highly hypocritical to question the INEOS involvement in United and Nice when both are in the Europa League.
 

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If the Red Bull teams of Leipzig and Salzburg can compete in consecutive Champions League seasons with no issue, then it’s going to be highly hypocritical to question the INEOS involvement in United and Nice when both are in the Europa League.
I'm wondering if the two clubs can still conduct transfers from one another, I was hoping we'd sign Todibo this summer.
 

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What the feck was that about yesterday SJR hugging Pep while treating Ten Hag like a leper and having a face like a smacked arse most of the game?

Its really shitty how they’ve hung Ten Hag out to dry during the run in. I don’t understand why they continue to treat him with such little respect.
I noticed that too and was disappointed by his reaction, or rather lack of it.

Radcliffes statement yesterday, thanked the players and staff but didn't specifically mentioned or thank ETH. I thought that was rather shitty and small time. I know you want to sack the man but would it kill you to show some gratitude especially after he won the FA cup?
 

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I noticed that too and was disappointed by his reaction, or rather lack of it.

Radcliffes statement yesterday, thanked the players and staff but didn't specifically mentioned or thank ETH. I thought that was rather shitty and small time. I know you want to sack the man but would it kill you to show some gratitude especially after he won the FA cup?
Yeah I was disappointed by that too. Just seen his statement. Seems deliberate.
 

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Thats Pep making a show. And Dutchies are not known huggers.
By dragging Jim down to him for a hug?! Don’t think so. Granted, they’re just snapshots in moments which can be taken out of proportion. But his expression when shaking Ten Hag’s hand is certainly not one of joint celebration with his manager.
 

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Pictures and angles show different stories. Seems ok to me to be honest.


I wonder if Pep had something to say to SJR which is why he pulled him down for a hug.
 

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Why do the new "partners" seem as much of a clown show as those they've joined? I thought they were supposed to be an upgrade from the clueless grifters that currently own us.
 

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We haven't won anything for at least 24 hours. What are these monkeys doing?
 

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I wonder if Pep had something to say to SJR which is why he pulled him down for a hug.
Probably upto his usual tricks and telling him to keep Ten Hag, much like when he was gushing about Ole when he was losing all the time, or saying that Maguire is fast as feck. He's a troll with a lot of stuff he says but manages to dress it up as sincere half of the time.
 

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Ineos checklist for the summer:

1. What to do with ETH
2. What to do with the guy in Spain and Sancho
3. Playing and admin staff hirings and signings.
4. Stadium and training ground stuff
5. Should we sell rashford
 

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Ineos checklist for the summer:

1. What to do with ETH
2. What to do with the guy in Spain and Sancho
3. Playing and admin staff hirings and signings.
4. Stadium and training ground stuff
5. Should we sell rashford
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