Nobody knows. At this stage it's possible the Glazers don't even know.So are they selling?
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The Athletic must be trolling, if some people on here are to be taken seriously.
The growth of the belief is coming from HarryP and his tribe. It continues to grow.Do the Athletic say anything specific?
"There is a growing belief" is vague language
They've been well behind others throughout every stage of the takeover talk haven't they, like you said.Name one stop they’ve broken before anybody else. All they’re saying is all of this is still possible
Posts that feel sexualThe growth of the belief is coming from HarryP and his tribe. It continues to grow.
Harry Plant.HarryP is probably a Glazer plant isn't he? I refuse to believe that actual Glazer supporters exist (excluding opposition fans)
This has not been a universally good thing for Manchester, the city council has made financially catastrophic decisions and the privatisation of our city is quite openly criticised, in particular, the finances involved with the Manchester City Discount Land Grab. They're right to point out the Labour malaise which Manchester has fallen into. Their reaction to Tory cuts has been to generate money like they were Tories, asset-stripping the city to the highest (although not always) bidder. I'm not in favour of state ownership from anywhere, but I think this is a separate issue from MCC's lust for selling off its silverware. United are currently foreign-owned, so this is nothing new, but its a shame we don't have politicians capable of asking difficult questions. When City was bought, MCC was complicit in the whole thing, Sir Richard Leese is an adopted City fan (from Coventry) and Howard Bernstein had long been a fan who retired soon after the deal to work for City's new owners - nothing to see here. It's a shame that a baby-kisser like Burnham isn't saying anything, but then again, he never does.
United's share price seems to have an inversely proportional relationship to belief that the Glazers will remain. United's share price is down 8.7% in the past 5 days, so you might say that belief that the Glazers will remain has increased by a similar percentage.Do the Athletic say anything specific?
"There is a growing belief" is vague language
HarryP is probably a Glazer plant isn't he? I refuse to believe that actual Glazer supporters exist (excluding opposition fans)
Can we refer to him as a mole instead?Harry Plant.
Exactly. Why would the Glazers want all of the hassle of running United which needs millions in new investment and infrastructure? Their passion is obviously NFL in the Florida sun.Yeah but why? When they can run all the way to the bank.
Naive fallacy if I've ever seen one.Good tweet by Kieran. Demonstrates that stadium improvements pay for themselves. Bear in mind that would apply to INEOS too (On their books of course)
The Internet in a nutshell!Two clueless folk talking nonsense to each other.
A footballer and an economist, talking about football economics. And then there’s you.Two clueless folk talking nonsense to each other.
Stop this endless bashing of our captain.Harry Plant.
He claims he does have sources!I've listened. What exactly am I missing here? He's a fan, like you and I. He has zero sources or connections to the club. And he still lives with his mum.
An economist who is naive enough to believe that any Investment firm wouldn't first get Glazers sibling selling them their shares to amend the Share structures voting rights, absolutely deserves to be laughed at .A footballer and an economist, talking about football economics. And then there’s you.
Only problem with Kieran summary is the loan is activated day one the money is transferred into Man united Account so our Debt becomes £1.4bn (2 loans, 1 for £600m and the other for £800m, one interest payment £25m the other £34m or £59m per year to service our now increased debt) which means we need to make profit of £60m to stay in businessGood tweet by Kieran. Demonstrates that stadium improvements pay for themselves. Bear in mind that would apply to INEOS too (On their books of course)
We made £110m from matchday income last year, where is he getting the extra £80-100m from?Good tweet by Kieran. Demonstrates that stadium improvements pay for themselves. Bear in mind that would apply to INEOS too (On their books of course)
Violence I'd imagine. Probably the only option left at that point.If the Glazers stay, what do you think the actual fans's response at Manchester would be? They did protest before, didn't seem to change anything.
if this was South America they could have been assaulted/shot by nowViolence I'd imagine. Probably the only option left at that point.
Need Gold Trafford & the Manc Red Devil to return to the forum and sell the debt is good theory once again. Like they did after the hostile takeover.I read a lot that United's debt level is fine. Obviously, to me, it doesn't sound fine at all and it sounds like the Glazer's only way out is more debt, lots more debt. For someone who understands this world more than me, just how much more debt can United take on before it becomes not fine anymore?
A footballer and an economist who have no idea what is being proposed, accepted or rejected in a 6b deal.. and there’s me. Who doesn’t know either.A footballer and an economist, talking about football economics. And then there’s you.
Lets just put it as CNN would say 'Fiery but peaceful'If the Glazers stay, what do you think the actual fans's response at Manchester would be? They did protest before, didn't seem to change anything.
You can't borrow at 4% right now in the UK though, can you? 10-year Gilts are trading at 3.84%. No idea what the credit rating is on presumably a secured loan for construction, but the spread would be at least 100 bps if not 200+ bps.
2-3 years back, reddevil subreddit (on reddit) had this daily conversation post which allowed so called ITK to come and post. Obviously all of them were fake and it became so bad that some of the users started doxxing these ITK’s. Then this was banned from that subreddit and few users banded together and formed the “Muppetiers” on reddit, taking the same ITK users. They had to close their subreddit 2-3 times because of user backlash because most of their so called inside information turned out to be false.He claims he does have sources!
Seriously though, I don't believe he has sources or connections, and maybe he lives with his mum, but he is asking questions over these last weeks that I haven't seen answered yet. Like how minority investment would work realistically. After taking minority - how would they pay off their cnut siblings, fund the necessary capital investment, transfer market (to keep Utd competitive) and also keep the value of the club growing significantly? They can't put a loan onto United to pay all of that, on top of the existing debt surely. And they won't pay it themselves.
What’s worrying however is the new rumoured £2.6bn to buy them out that’s a £5.7bn offer In full so we SJR or SJ to bid more simple!Your scenerio isthe reason why Jassi is confident. If keyboard warriors can figure it out...
I don't deny it. I don't know, but even if he lied about absolutely everything, is a Liverpool fan and lives with his mum.. He's still asked questions around the feasibility of Partial Investment that I haven't seen answered.2-3 years back, reddevil subreddit (on reddit) had this daily conversation post which allowed so called ITK to come and post. Obviously all of them were fake and it became so bad that some of the users started doxxing these ITK’s. Then this was banned from that subreddit and few users banded together and formed the “Muppetiers” on reddit, taking the same ITK users. They had to close their subreddit 2-3 times because of user backlash because most of their so called inside information turned out to be false.
So yeah these people are clueless and just digest news that we all have access to, and then post something cryptic. If it turns out true, they will claim they knew about it, if it doesn’t, then they wont bother bringing it up. They have recently became smarter in how they post so that there is no backlash in case they are wrong.