Including debt?
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
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"Sheikh Jassim's bid is undisclosed". So no one actually knows how big it is? All numbers are just speculation?
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"Sheikh Jassim's bid is undisclosed". So no one actually knows how big it is? All numbers are just speculation?
Yes sorry.
If Ratcliffe can't eliminate the debt, build a new stadium and compete with City in the transfer market then we can forget about the PL unless they can invent some new major income stream. The club will not be worth more 3-5 years time.
I can’t see that being the case, if they’ve been in contact with Raine and/or Glazers then it’s utterly pointless, and they wouldn’t bother.
So if you wanted to buy something that’s worth 10 grand would you offer 12 just because you have the money?
No you’d offer 8 and try to bring the price down.
They would have given us money to buy a striker in the winter if they would care, they don't care.
So the current deals are
SJR .. @~6b valuation.. buys out the glazers' 69% for ~4.2b.. or buys out 50% for ~3b and leaves the Glazers with ~20% stake.
Jassim - 100% @ around 5b.. so the Glazers get ~3.5b
Its between 4.2b / 3b+20% of the club vs. 3.5b
SJR has it in the bag.. Jassim was here for the press coverage.. guy has no money / his dad wont give him what he wants.
SJR .. @~6b valuation.. buys out the glazers' 69% for ~4.2b.. or buys out 50% for ~3b and leaves the Glazers with ~20% stake.
Jassim - 100% @ around 5b.. so the Glazers get ~3.5b
Its between 4.2b / 3b+20% of the club vs. 3.5b
SJR has it in the bag.. Jassim was here for the press coverage.. guy has no money / his dad wont give him what he wants.
I’m not going to pretend like I know anything about M&A but feck me the reporting on this from football journalists has been utterly shocking.
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Hopefully this gets accepted. The men’s & women’s team deserves the best. We deserve a stadium to compete with the Bernebou when it’s completely revamped and all the other top stadiums.
This is the moment where United either catches up or gets left behind. If Jim Ratcliffe and INEOS had any intention of clearing debt, developing the stadium/training ground etc they’d have said it by now.
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I doubt it but even if it's true, they
could've felt that way before we started to limp along. They're taking the cash and Jim needs to pull his finger out.
I doubt it but even if it's true, they
could've felt that way before we started to limp along. They're taking the cash and Jim needs to pull his finger out.
Lex Luger says your tshirts are too tight billy.
I think it was also to help structure a deal that can be financially attractive. He can't afford to compete with Jassim on financial terms unless it's spread out.
There is no value to the Glazers staying if they are to be forced out in 2-4 years anyway, with no real say in that time.
5.5 bill sat in the bank will work out more over 4 years than 6 billion from Jim. Reckon there will be all kinds of creative incentives too like inroads to take the NFL teams to that part of the country or some shite.
Yeah it’s been all over the shop
Fantastic
I don't see SJR shifting his bid. He doesn't need to.
Into the end game now.
Into the end game now.
And an offer for 49% being Joel's lapdog
They’ve upped the bid by over 500m. If that’s true.
Yeah, this is one of the accounts you trust.
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These braindead Twitter ITKs are just 18 year old kids with a few thousand followers feeding bullshit to other kids. Literally all of them change their stories up every single day and then delete old tweets or something to cover up for it.
No one's in the mud, valuation is still lower than Ratcliffe who has multiple offers...so it's more than likely he can just give a 69% offer for the same valuation as his 51% offer.
It would be over if your figures were at all realistic
But SJ is clearing the debt and offering a £1bn fund for the club and surrounding area so he’s putting more money in.
£5.5bn + Debt of close to a BN if I remember correctly (700m ish?) and £1Bn fund = £7.2BN
If SJR has a bid for all 69%, why would he offer a second bid in which two Glazers can stay and pay them more money?
Make it make sense.
Make it make sense.
I am shocked - I tell you shocked - to learn that this is all a big game to squeeze more juice from the Qataris.
He also says it includes the debt and investment in the club + community. That would mean less $ going to the Glazers. Of course Ben Jacobs says otherwise
In the mud son.Yeah, this is one of the accounts you trust.
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These braindead Twitter ITKs are just 18 year old kids with a few thousand followers feeding bullshit to other kids. Literally all of them change their stories up every single day and then delete old tweets or something to cover up for it.
No one's in the mud, valuation is still lower than Ratcliffe who has multiple offers...so it's more than likely he can just give a 69% offer for the same valuation as his 51% offer.
1 billion for the debt which the glazers don't care about
so only 4.5 bil
derisory offer from the Qatari joker
Because neither Joel not Avram actually want to sell. The second bid allows them to stay on as part owners of the club but gives all control to SJR
Looks that way.
What makes you so optimistic boss?Qatar FC. Tonight we feast
I swear every "improved" offer from them is always exactly the same, at least according to the media.
Definitely looks like it’s going to Jassim. Let’s just hope they hurry the paperwork through.
You claimed the Glazers were in Doha what...2 weeks ago? Keep lapping up 18 year old kids' tweets that they make up in 10 minutes while taking a shit at home. Insane how gullible people can be.
Keegan himself, Qatar's chosen mouthpiece has reported that this 4th bid is still lower than Ratcliffe's 3rd bid.
Would the Glazers care? SJ can promise to invest 10b in the first year, but if he is offering the Glazers much less than SJR, it wont be accepted.
Surely they go with the bid that gives them more money
If your figures were correct possibly so, but you are just guessing like the rest of us and making numbers up to fit your theory.
So, if Jassim's offer is £5.5bn for 100% what is Ratcliffe meant to be offering for 69%?
Another couple of weeks for the vague ‘glazers are about make an announcement soon’ tweets
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