Club Sale | It’s done!
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What’s his latest update ? 50/50 I’m guessing ?
That Qatar were feeling a bit more confident after the latest bid but broke Jim still also confident.
What's in a name? Both are shunned, especially in these times.
Feck it. Sound mate.
Worst thread ever... so far, you have to stay optimistic.
Personally I think this run off can only head in one direction now, and that’s Qatar.
I like your style, I have high hopes for the Mbappe thread myself.
Thanks for the advice.
There must be something stopping the Glazers from accepting SJR's bid. If it was what they wanted, they'd have taken it a long time ago, but i do wonder if the threat of lawsuits and the absolute complexity of the deal is putting them off a little. I wonder if they're just seeing Jassims bid as the easy way out, but they want to milk it for quite a bit more before they decide to take it.
I just don't know why they'd keep hanging on if SJR's bid is what they're actually after. So very confusing
I just don't know why they'd keep hanging on if SJR's bid is what they're actually after. So very confusing
This is my suspicion. I suspect Glazers aren't even interested in Ratcliffe's compromised approach, they're just using him as leverage to squeeze more out of the Qataris.
Though it begs the question as to why Ratcliffe is so publicly confident - a bit of PR? Delusion? Or if you really want to go down the conspiracy rabbit hole, could this just be a favour for his mates the Glazer to drive up the price?
You've got to stop acting so confident when you don't know what's going on. That the bids are reported in enterprise value has absolutely nothing to do with Qatar including in their bids what they would do with regards to the existing debt and future infrastructure investments. You're bringing up stuff that's completely irrelevant to what @united_99 is saying, and then go on to pretend that you're gracefully sharing insights.
They’re probably hoping for SJR to capitulate, coming back with a bigger offer, but also the fact that they can possibly hold on for another 3 yrs under Sir Jim’s proposal.
I suggest you take the time to read posts before coming to any conclusions in the future.
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I actually already did and explained people actually do it all the time
He's a rotten businessman.
Its a farce everywhere whats your point.
knowing their nature, the repeated rounds of bidding, the we arent sure we want to sell, the we want to keep a stake, even the attending of cup finals suddenly, the fact it could have been cut and dried a while back leads me to think they are trying to squeeze as much as they can from their richest bidders, the Qataris....
can help but feel the Glazers will get an incredible deal
No one told half truths. The question was do they have them, the answer is yes and you can also check.
Is he publicly confident? I’ve seen as much of him as I have SJ and SJ is an AI constructThis is my suspicion. I suspect Glazers aren't even interested in Ratcliffe's compromised approach, they're just using him as leverage to squeeze more out of the Qataris.
Though it begs the question as to why Ratcliffe is so publicly confident - a bit of PR? Delusion? Or if you really want to go down the conspiracy rabbit hole, could this just be a favour for his mates the Glazer to drive up the price?
Of course they will, that’s what this whole charade is about.
Its what the more reliable media outlets are saying, in fact its pretty much all they're saying - 'quietly confident'.
I wonder if he's tried offering Lazarus some of his millions for a glass of water?
I hear Frankie de Jong is for sale...
It'll be glorious.
I think City winning the CL has changed my mind somewhat on this. Before that, I saw City as plastic and us and other clubs as more real / romantic, with the lack of CL wins for either City or PSG feeding into the idea of that romance.
Now that they've won it, and will continue to win things regularly with no regulation forthcoming to curtail their spending power (i.e. dodgy sponsorships), I'm sort of more leaning into a if you can't beat em, join em mentality. It's the only way to really compete anymore - look at Liverpool - built a better first XI with a fraction of the net spend of City (and with a worse starting point when Klopp took over) - and what do they have to show for it? A CL and a PL yes, but their lack of rotation options up front compared to City meant players like Mane declined early and they finished a point behind City twice who could afford to rotate the cup games.
We could very feasibly be run amazingly well under Ratcliffe and still find us not having the depth to win.
Now that they've won it, and will continue to win things regularly with no regulation forthcoming to curtail their spending power (i.e. dodgy sponsorships), I'm sort of more leaning into a if you can't beat em, join em mentality. It's the only way to really compete anymore - look at Liverpool - built a better first XI with a fraction of the net spend of City (and with a worse starting point when Klopp took over) - and what do they have to show for it? A CL and a PL yes, but their lack of rotation options up front compared to City meant players like Mane declined early and they finished a point behind City twice who could afford to rotate the cup games.
We could very feasibly be run amazingly well under Ratcliffe and still find us not having the depth to win.
I can see us being similar to what we are now under him. Unfortunately we need crazy money to compete with some of these "clubs."
I think thats the key difference - do we want to be a moments club that could have the odd success when the stars align for us during a season, while City pretty much swallow the honours most years, or do we want to be consistent challengers to them? If its the latter then the depressing reality is to match them like for like.
Didnt know rigor mortis lasted that long, no wonder he hasn't handed over the keys
Maybe that's why the last 10 years have been a disaster, these negotiations included. The Glazer spawns have been pulling a Weekend at Bernie's with ol pops Malcolm.
Yeah, he is cold negotiator indeed
Some say he has a great poker face, gives nothing away.
That's not down to City's riches (well yes and no). The main reason for City's dominance is Pep. Pep is a genius manager, he's up there with any in the history of the game in terms of what he can do with a team in terms of peak level, consistency and all that. Klopp is also a great manager, but he's not on Peps level. City and Liverpool both had excellent depth, but Pep is just relentless in league play while Klopp just can't get a team to dominate quite the same.
Of course they only have Pep because of the money, but swap managers and keep the teams the same and Liverpool would've won more league titles during this period.
You can build to compete with them, Qatar or no qatar it is possible. You just have to be smart with purchases, and your manager needs to be a great manager. But it's unlikely you'll dominate a Pep side in league play, it'd be like somebody else dominating a Fergie side in league play... Just wouldn't happen. Individual seasons sure, but not over a longer period.
He could be valuable if you have a ghostbusting business.
How come there's so much talk about Malcolm Glazer? Is he back?
Seemed so promising 24 hours ago
Seemed so promising 24 hours ago
The walking dread.
Yep, back by unpopular demand somehow.
He's part of Michael Knightons consortium which is making a late run to gazump Jim and Jassim.
It’ll be quite difficult to say the least if you are looking to do business with him. We wouldn’t have even got to this stage in the process tbh if he was directly involved in it.
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