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The World Economic Forum is this week so it will be interesting to see if there’s any updates by weekend .
I don't think United being there holds relevance. A quick google search shows me that Avram Glazer attended it last year as well

Ducker's piece did say interested parties will start making their intentions public over the coming weeks. If true, that's when the real buzz and concrete updates will likely start

Gut feeling right now is Dubai, but further Americans wouldn't surprise me with them hiring Raine. Hiring Raine feels like a way of targeting the American buyers
 

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Indy Kaila was on about Qatar bidding for Liverpool I wouldn't be surprised if this express article is based off of that.
 

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Classing express gossip news as chatter is a nice way of putting it
Yeah, if you look at what speed this info is spreading — it’s not going fast. Obviously some concerns about the source.
 

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Maybe unrelated but reality is every major country “funds foreign terrorism”.

It’s only when the ones they fund are the ones we don’t like we complain
Maybe it's true, I don't know about the government funding terrorism, don't want to go off topic so let's leave it at that :P
 

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If or rather when it happens,
it'll be a major test for many of us who proclaim not being able to live with a state owning United.

How the feck are you supposed to cut ties with something you're so heavily invested in?
Doesn't look feasible in the slightest.
 

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I don't think United being there holds relevance. A quick google search shows me that Avram Glazer attended it last year as well

Ducker's piece did say interested parties will start making their intentions public over the coming weeks. If true, that's when the real buzz and concrete updates will likely start

Gut feeling right now is Dubai, but further Americans wouldn't surprise me with them hiring Raine. Hiring Raine feels like a way of targeting the American buyers
I mean it does hold relevance. The Glazers were allegedly looking for funding last year and now they are looking to sell. This is exactly the kind of place you go when seeking to showcase to the wealthiest people in the world.
 

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The source is Mohammed Saeed Alkaabi, who appears to have at least some ties to the royal family. Apparently the guy who broke the transfer of Messi to PSG. That being said, he has also reported QSI interest in buying Arsenal sometime ago and Mbappe leaving PSG. Neither of which have obviously come true.
Yeah this is where it effectively came from.

 

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Struggling to think of why they would showcase the club at the World Economic Forum.
The only reason I can think of is they are struggling to sell the club and even that doesn’t make complete sense to me.

Edit: Scratch that. More likely to do with sponsorship.
 

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Make sense for Qatar to go for Liverpool. If it's between the Glazers and United vs FSG and Liverpool, I know where I'd pick to pump money but keep the current way the club is run.

This is also better for us because PSG have not exactly been run great, so leaves the prospect of them selling PSG and ruining Liverpool as probable in the medium to long term
 

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Make sense for Qatar to go for Liverpool. If it's between the Glazers and United vs FSG and Liverpool, I know where I'd pick to pump money but keep the current way the club is run.

This is also better for us because PSG have not exactly been run great, so leaves the prospect of them selling PSG and ruining Liverpool as probable in the medium to long term
I think if one of Liverpool or United get that oil takeover and the other doesn't, they could become formidable and start dominating the league

They both have much more allure than City, PSG or Newcastle so if they can match their pockets too, they'll very likely attract the best talents.
 

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I wonder who's likely to be better owners?

Part owned by Qatari's where PSG might still be their priority but I doubt it would.

Or full ownership from Dubai.

I'll be honest if Newcastle Icty and Liverpool all have Arab owners we are probably gonna need our own to compete.

Or atleast we'll need someone who can go toe to toe with them
 

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I think if one of Liverpool or United get that oil takeover and the other doesn't, they could become formidable and start dominating the league

They both have much more allure than City, PSG or Newcastle so if they can match their pockets too, they'll very likely attract the best talents.
I personally see United getting bought out AND Liverpool getting minority investment as the most likely scenario.

Possibly, long term Qatar buys out FSG to the tune of what we'll go for now.
 

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Struggling to think of why they would showcase the club at the World Economic Forum.
The only reason I can think of is they are struggling to sell the club and even that doesn’t make complete sense to me.

Edit: Scratch that. More likely to do with sponsorship.
I also think it is a branding thing. We are marketing ourselves as being 'on the next level' compared to virtually every other club save for perhaps Barca and Real. "One billion fans". Whos who of the elites will be there, and its not wrong to be seen. At the same time, I am sure that it is hard to stick out there and be noticed. But at the same time, there will of course be some people really interested in football there -- who have tremendously influential positions. Stick some fun ex player there and I am sure they will get some visitors. Even if it doesn't concern your business, which fan of football wouldn't want to walk over and have a chat with like Eric Cantona or someone like that.
 

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I think if one of Liverpool or United get that oil takeover and the other doesn't, the one with oil money would dominate the league over the next 10-20 years.

They both have much more allure than City, PSG or Newcastle so if they can match their pockets too, they'll very likely attract the best talents.
Not 100% sure that they will completely dominate. City and Newcastle won't just go away and the former is extremely well run at this point.
 

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Think it is more to do with getting a new sponsor. I can’t imagine it is about a potential sale. That would look desperate.
You might be right, but I disagree

For starters, I think it'll be the new owners who decide the next shirt sponsorship. That'll be a part of their sales pitch.
 

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I don't see any American investors buying United as the price of the club plus the cost or sorting out Old Trafford makes it a very difficult investment. Especially when competing with the finances of City and Newcastle.

It will have to be a nation state bid. Somebody that can take on City and Newcastle head on.
 

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You might be right, but I disagree

For starters, I think it'll be the new owners who decide the next shirt sponsorship. That'll be a part of their sales pitch.
There is no guarantee the club will be sold. Would be negligent not to look for sponsors.
 

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The trouble is the Glazers have set the price too high really. They need to drop it by 2 billion
 

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Why would you need to do this if you had lots of prospective buyers? Seems to me like they’re struggling to get interest.
Setting up a booth in a trade exhibition, or in this case a temporary shop front in Davos takes months of preparation, and it is not something you can do in a short notice.

Thus I believe the plan to exhibit during WEF was finalized even before they made the announcement that the club was for sale during the World Cup.
 

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The trouble is the Glazers have set the price too high really. They need to drop it by 2 billion
They absolutely do, to cover the stadium they have neglected, whose costs of replacement will be passed onto a new owner. Considering they put feck all in at the start it is the least the greedy wankers can do.
 

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The thing with QSI is, even if they are not the primary buyer of a club, they would probably be a great companion to any consortium and they would surely at least have been approached by most constellation looking to get the club by a team effort. If they zero in on Liverpool, it probably removes some options.

At the same time, we have had some discussions about leaks, were one notion is that this is business done at the next level were leaks don't take place etc. But there will be negotiations going on reading a takeover of the club that will be impacted by the same forces as any big football transfer. Some investors will definitely play out Liverpool vs us, the FSG vs Glazers. And doing that includes leaks. I have in late December/earlier in January said that the total lack of leaks could indicate that the negotiations were still at a very early stage. And I do think we will start to get more of them. Just like an Arsenal fan never will be able to know if rumors of Chelsea being interest in Mudryk are genuine or just an attempt by Shaktar to drive up the price, when the Raine Group or a consortium is discussing with an investor who is asked to take a 20% piece of the pie -- that investor will have an incentive to underline how they have options. When a report comes out, you got to take it at face value to a certain extent, but nothing is written in stone.
 

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Setting up a booth in a trade exhibition, or in this case a temporary shop front in Davos takes months of preparation, and it is not something you can do in a short notice.

Thus I believe the plan to exhibit during WEF was finalized even before they made the announcement that the club was for sale during the World Cup.
Yeah maybe, hope you’re right.
 

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There is no guarantee the club will be sold. Would be negligent not to look for sponsors.
Take a minute to think about it.

I think it would be ridiculous to go to the WEF for the sole purpose of looking for a sponsor when they ideally want to sell the club and the new owner(s) would want to choose the sponsor

The nature of the agreement with TeamViewer is that things will stay as they are until United find a new sponsor. There would be absolutely no point whatsoever in the Glazers looking for a sponsor now when they don't plan to be around for it. If it gets to May and they still haven't sold the club and aren't any closer to it, then they'd maybe do it. But they're still safe as houses with TeamViewer for the foreseeable.
 

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Take a minute to think about it.

I think it would be ridiculous to go to the WEF for the sole purpose of looking for a sponsor when they ideally want to sell the club and the new owner(s) would want to choose the sponsor

The nature of the agreement with TeamViewer is that things will stay as they are until United find a new sponsor. There would be absolutely no point whatsoever in the Glazers looking for a sponsor now when they don't plan to be around for it. If it gets to May and they still haven't sold the club and aren't any closer to it, then they'd maybe do it. But they're still safe as houses with TeamViewer for the foreseeable.
I think we can look at it from the perspective that the Raine Group will instruct the club to take measures that directly might help them find a buyer as well as indirect measures that will help them find a buyer. Raising awareness of the brand, creating goodwill etc, would all be of the 'indirect' kind. The idea is of course not that a buyer should walk by and buy the club. Signing lucrative sponsor deals will help them find a buyer. To an extent, all is connected.
 
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