I always thought the lad from Robocop who got done with the chemicals (Emile) looked like Wayne Rooney.
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How so? Because I am reading the reports from today and think Ratcliffe is making more astute decisions?
Compared to Goldbridge, who literally makes things up and calls people a prat for pointing out where he's wrong
Meanwhile Rat wants us as an ego trip and some Ineos greenwashing. Meh.
No one serious about being the next custodian of United would offer so much of other peoples money to allow the Glazers to maintain control.
And on Chelsea, his bid was also after their very public deadline, leading to a lot of cynicism at the time that he was only "bidding" to make it known to owners of certain other clubs that he was looking to spend big money on a PL club.
Fine with that. They have to address the fans' concerns eventually.
Not sure what you're eluding to on this, I am not here for a moral argument because we can easily rinse both parties if we wanted to - probably best to focus on the footballing side.
He's not done that though.
Yeah like with FC Nice, 6 different managers in 4 years. he knows what he is doing.
First, the standings after 8 matches don't mean jack shit in a campaign that has 34.
Second, Nice's average finish since INEOS took over is 7th.
Third, FC Lausanne-Sport have been relegated TWICE since INEOS took over.
Don't expect an apology when I see nothing to suggest that SJR is in any way competent in any form of sports ownership, especially if his company gets the full reins on sporting operations. INEOS have been mediocre so far on balance.
I'm grateful to the Caftards sat at home in their skiddies for showing me just how much of an idiot this £30 billion self-made man really is. What a chump!
He'd prefer a big coach with blacked out windows and lot of fridges in the back for Blood products and Asthma medication.
Hi. I was responding to the comment that Nice were in shambles when they clearly aren't right now.
I don't really know why you're bringing other stuff up unrelated to what I was talking about?
Since Ineos took over Nice 4 years ago they have gone through 6 managers, they are currently managed by Francesco Farioli who was little known a 34-year-old Italian who never played football professionally and got his big break in coaching working alongside Roberto De Zerbi at Sassuolo. Nice are currently 2nd in the French league unbeaten and have defeated 1st and 3rd PSG,Monaco away this season.
Of course Ineos has full control of Nice while Ratcliffe and his founding company will only have a stake in United and those leeches the Glazers are still around.
Of course Ineos has full control of Nice while Ratcliffe and his founding company will only have a stake in United and those leeches the Glazers are still around.
Haven't been following this much in recent days. Does Qatar bowing out effectively mean that Sir JR is expected to win ? Or have the Glazers simply decided to keep things as they are now ?
The amount of random profiles that ‘report’ on this is mad. Just because I’ve looked at one United tweet ever I get all these shite accounts.Who the hell are United Empire?
I am agreeing Nice were very turbulent early on, they did a review and made a lot of changes.
The fan sentiment on them was still positive as there was a lot of good groundwork going in - an Athletic article cited fans were optimistic that Ratcliffe is making longer term success more viable. That article came before their current position, sitting unbeaten in the first 8 games and above PSG- who have been underwhelming for over a decade.
works both ways.
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They live in an alternate realityWho the hell are United Empire?
The latest credible reports is that Qatar being out is 100%, and even if Ratcliffe's moves collapses, the glazers can't turn to Qatar their bid again. This is by Ben Jacobs (so credible to some degree I guess).
Sir Jim is expected to win because Glazers have 96% control at the board meeting I think. The agreement was for 25%, with a route to 100% in the future, however Sir Jim will get immediate control on the footballing decisions.
Interesting, thanks.
Oh my gosh.
When the dust and, clearly, emotions for some settle there’s not that much of a controversial story here.
Glazers said we’re open to a sale, this is our valuation and one bidder matched it. He seemingly had to jump through some hoops and pay up but no one else did. Whilst minority isn’t what many wanted, it is still at least strengthening someone other than a Glazer sibling.
Glazers said we’re open to a sale, this is our valuation and one bidder matched it. He seemingly had to jump through some hoops and pay up but no one else did. Whilst minority isn’t what many wanted, it is still at least strengthening someone other than a Glazer sibling.
Their average position in the 5 preceding seasons was 8th.
Lausanne were a yo-yo club before Ineos took them over too.
Owners can have different goals at different clubs. Taking over at the start of 2019/20 season is a rough time, given COVID started half way through. And COVID through a big wrench in everybody's plans for the immediate years that followed, unless you're a sugar daddy owner. But if you operate in a sustainable way, and plan to grow through that, then it has a big impact and delays progress.
You don't know the actual state of play at these clubs before he came, and the changes made after he came, is it?
Here take it from Nice fans - https://theathletic.com/4427920/2023/04/20/jim-ratcliffe-nice-manchester-united/
Going by their logo, they have got a Sith Empire vibeWho the hell are United Empire?
--> Staff will be cut
--> Murtough and Arnold might be dead men walking
--> Board will be restructured to give the INEOS members control to for sporting autonomy
--> Paul Mitchell looks likely - Michael Edwards admired but unclear if he's open for a PL return.
--> Jean-Claude Blanc could be the CEO
From The Athletic:
" Ratcliffe wants control of sporting decisions immediately and is proposing a new structure where INEOS representatives have seats on the board, thus granting definitive influence on such matters. But the exact nature of this arrangement still needs to be worked out. Ratcliffe is not concerned with having oversight on United’s commercial arm straightaway, but he has been negotiating the mechanism for eventually buying the majority of shares and completing a full takeover.
It is anticipated that Ratcliffe would wish to make his own appointments on the football side and plans have been discussed.
Paul Mitchell, who has left his role as Monaco’s sporting director and moved back home to Manchester, is thought to be under consideration. Mitchell established his reputation for recruitment work at Southampton, Tottenham Hotspur and RB Leipzig and has a good relationship with senior INEOS figures. Monaco were top of Ligue 1 when he left after what was regarded as a successful transfer window and the building of a new management setup.
Michael Edwards and Julian Ward, who enjoyed success in helping build Liverpool’s squad under Jurgen Klopp, have been discussed, but it is unclear if either is open to a Premier League return imminently. United held talks with Dan Ashworth before he took up the position as Newcastle United’s sporting director and any approach would now cost significant money in compensation. There is speculation about what any restructuring would mean for football director John Murtough, with Ratcliffe tending to want his own people in positions of power.
Sir Dave Brailsford, the former head of British Cycling and INEOS Grenadiers before becoming Ratcliffe’s director of sport in late 2021, would be expected to head up the sporting operation at United.
The position of Richard Arnold as United’s chief executive would come into doubt should Ratcliffe succeed. Jean-Claude Blanc, the former Paris Saint-Germain chief executive who joined INEOS in February, is a potential candidate to step in. Ratcliffe, who toured Old Trafford and the training ground at Carrington in March, is said to feel that United’s operation can be more streamlined given the club employs more than 1,000 staff members. "
--> Murtough and Arnold might be dead men walking
--> Board will be restructured to give the INEOS members control to for sporting autonomy
--> Paul Mitchell looks likely - Michael Edwards admired but unclear if he's open for a PL return.
--> Jean-Claude Blanc could be the CEO
From The Athletic:
" Ratcliffe wants control of sporting decisions immediately and is proposing a new structure where INEOS representatives have seats on the board, thus granting definitive influence on such matters. But the exact nature of this arrangement still needs to be worked out. Ratcliffe is not concerned with having oversight on United’s commercial arm straightaway, but he has been negotiating the mechanism for eventually buying the majority of shares and completing a full takeover.
It is anticipated that Ratcliffe would wish to make his own appointments on the football side and plans have been discussed.
Paul Mitchell, who has left his role as Monaco’s sporting director and moved back home to Manchester, is thought to be under consideration. Mitchell established his reputation for recruitment work at Southampton, Tottenham Hotspur and RB Leipzig and has a good relationship with senior INEOS figures. Monaco were top of Ligue 1 when he left after what was regarded as a successful transfer window and the building of a new management setup.
Michael Edwards and Julian Ward, who enjoyed success in helping build Liverpool’s squad under Jurgen Klopp, have been discussed, but it is unclear if either is open to a Premier League return imminently. United held talks with Dan Ashworth before he took up the position as Newcastle United’s sporting director and any approach would now cost significant money in compensation. There is speculation about what any restructuring would mean for football director John Murtough, with Ratcliffe tending to want his own people in positions of power.
Sir Dave Brailsford, the former head of British Cycling and INEOS Grenadiers before becoming Ratcliffe’s director of sport in late 2021, would be expected to head up the sporting operation at United.
The position of Richard Arnold as United’s chief executive would come into doubt should Ratcliffe succeed. Jean-Claude Blanc, the former Paris Saint-Germain chief executive who joined INEOS in February, is a potential candidate to step in. Ratcliffe, who toured Old Trafford and the training ground at Carrington in March, is said to feel that United’s operation can be more streamlined given the club employs more than 1,000 staff members. "
So Jim’s bid values the club at $5.2 billion and the Glazers turned down $6.5 billion. Whole deal is crazy, much like the United’s YouTube channel bases reactions. Looking forward to hearing what Sir Jim says if he‘s successful.
All they ever said was they were looking at what options there were, at no time have I seen anything that said they were selling, most of what's been said/printed/published/commented on has been pure conjecture
Seeing reports that Jassim wanted to buy players like Mbappe and Camavinga makes me glad that they’re not coming. It seems like we’d be set for more transfer windows of impossible targets whilst the more sensible club take the top young talents.
You are assuming that the rest of the Glazer's shares will be sold at the same price as the 25%, that will almost certainly not be the case, when all the details are sorted out I suspect that what they will ulimately end up with will be more than $6.5 billion
Ever hear of polyester?
How would one wear petrochemicals??
Can't wait for this shit to be over.. bring on Thursday..
Glad its not Qatar..
Glad its not Qatar..
So you've just ignored every single report that says it's an initial 25% with a pathway to a full takeover later on? Again I ask you people, what is it you want exactly? Qatar didn't want to stump up enough money to change Joel and Avram's minds, nobody else bidded for 100%, and by all accounts it seems that regardless of offers they didn't want to fully leave just yet, which is why Ratcliffe got creative and pulled out what he needed to do in order get his foot in the door and to, eventually, oust the Glazers fully, this is not a 'ruse' for him to take 25%, steal the money and ride off into the sunset. You are indeed having a hissy fit, throwing your toys out of the pram and making up narratives to suit conclusions that you've already made your mind up on.
Just like loads of people in this thread who are crying about Qatar (though it seems you aren't talking about Qatar specifically)
Or.. I know the real value, the aftermarket value, and the hyper value.
It could also be argued… Ratcliffe was forced to overpay for just 25%.
This all sounds quite good
The Glazers are rich too. Making money and being good at running a football club are not the same thing.
This all sounds quite good as well
Seriously? The vast majority of your clothes are derived from petrochemicals.
How would one wear petrochemicals??
How would one wear petrochemicals??
Basically by being a full kit wanker.
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