Club Sale | It’s done!
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Good. Hopefully, John Murtough isn't far behind Richard Arnold. I'm more interested in that.
Ok the whole voting angle could well be the 'more to the story' I mentioned. It implies that his position is untenable, as mentioned above.
@Woziak I'm more than happy to give him a chance. I was one of the minority that wanted Ratcliffe over Qatar. Just thought it was interesting as, as you mentioned, it implied that his position was completely untenable even in the short term for whatever reason,
I can imagine a Norman Osborne style meltdown at the meeting he was told, “ do you know how much I sacrificed!”
These guys are such chancers. It sounds like this deal is practically done, and I expect many of the details/hires are pretty much nailed on. Yet they're still talking about 'favourite' for the CEO position etc. If they had info then they should know exactly who it will be by now.
Couldn't agree more. We need a proper director of football not somebody synonymous with the failure of the last decade getting promoted.
They have said Blanc multiple times tbf
Arnold replaced with a guy that's been with the Glazers at the club since 2006 after Arnold had previously rejected Ratcliffe's offer in favour of Jassim consortiums offer as the CEO has a board seat. If you want all yes men on the board prior to a major vote then you got one.
Unsurprising. Quickest way for Ratcliffe to earn some fan goodwill is to remove the failures operating above the manager.
I mentioned Blanc in March and I'm not in the know.
Fixed that for you
Not the point
You know it to be true.
After the Greenwood fiasco, Arnold was never going to recover in my eyes. He clearly wanted to bring him back and only a backlash scared him into changing that decision, it wasn't because he wanted to do the right thing. Before that I thought he was decent, and better than Woodward in that he seemed to try to put a structure in place and leave people to their jobs. Ultimately it turned out not to be a good structure/right people so a fresh start with the new ownership makes complete sense. Also he's a Glazer appointment and the less of those, the better.
Interested to see what happens to the Murtough x Fletcher level of the structure now.
Gone give it time
People want blood.
In 6 months time the newly appointed guys will be called shite and unproven with no real track record and so on
It’s just another major glazer decision which leaves them with final say and holding the purse strings/club in debt/ownership uncertainty long term. It’s going to be bad for the club unless somehow Jim is a sporting savant and can do what no manager post Fergie has been able to do. At least he has his own money and stake. They are the most unlucky/inept of all the money grabbing goblins. Hopefully they are at the least one step closer to finally fully fecking off at some point in the medium term and leaving us with owners that care/know about football and can afford us without saddling us with even more debt
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It’s a pretty big thing for someone who owns 25% of something to immediately come in and remove the CEO. You’d think he’d have to get the Glazer’s approval. Who knows, maybe he has?
Murtough will presumably go too. Fletcher's role is minimal, he identifies academy players for promotion within. He will be safe I'd assume unless there's a big upheaval in the immediate.
You realise that Fergie worked under the Glazers too?
JM to follow hopefully
My bad, then.
He wasn't appointed by them. Remember "no value in the market"? Ferguson was impacted by Glazers in the later seasons.
Good news. Arnold is both incompetant and an absolute tool. Glad to see the back of him.
True, but some of us have worked for United during Arnold's time at the club and know for a fact he's a shitehawk.
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The only way ratcliffe earns any respect is if he goes and gets the absolute best available footballing people. We want the best DOF, best CEO, best recruitment/scouting networks. Absolute best in class in a footballing sense of the word. Thats the only way he gets any respect at this point. What he does with the structure of the club is the most important aspect of his takeover imo.
no more sentimentality. No more friends FC or ex United players getting jobs. Proven track records only. Go and raid the best people, test their resolves at current clubs. It’s a massive mess that’s going to take the top people to even begin to put it right.
He’s got to be utterly ruthless at this point.
no more sentimentality. No more friends FC or ex United players getting jobs. Proven track records only. Go and raid the best people, test their resolves at current clubs. It’s a massive mess that’s going to take the top people to even begin to put it right.
He’s got to be utterly ruthless at this point.
Sounds like he’s going to get them to be fair.
It’s what we need. Who’s he supposedly after? I heard Paul Mitchell being mentioned a fair bit? Who else?
Why don't they say it will be him then? Instead they're toeing the same line as every journalist.
Don’t know I find that weird too.
It's inevitable
Bet Arnold is massively regretting turning up to meet Ratcliffe in trainers, a v-neck and open collared shirt with no tie the scruffy bastard
Personally I just don't believe them. I followed, in the loosest sense of the word, Muppetiers when it first got mentioned on here a few years ago. They were wrong on practically everything, it was actually mind boggling to me how so many people were hanging on their every word for the following transfer window, and the one after that etc. They got practically nothing right and yet people still believed it.
I'm reliably informed of soiled undies as well
Which is rehashed information from public news. Everyone knows Ratcliffe will bring Blanc and Brailsford. In fact Brailsford was tjpped to have a major part since our first round of bids back 6 months ago. Blanc has been a name mentioned for a long time too.He’s been pretty certain over the last few days in the discord
For me an excitement over change of personnel at the very top of the club structure is tempered by the fact that it's still the Glazers sitting on top of the pyramid
Remains to be seen how this split between the commercial and sporting parts of the club will work in practice. The only thing that can be said really is that those arsehole nepo babies have properly pulled a blinder here. Best case scenario for them.
Remains to be seen how this split between the commercial and sporting parts of the club will work in practice. The only thing that can be said really is that those arsehole nepo babies have properly pulled a blinder here. Best case scenario for them.
On the face of it I find it strange that Arnold voted against Ratcliffe. At the time, the overriding feeling was that Qatar were going to through money at the project, hire the best in class across the board, the whole lot. Whereas Ratcliffe was the 'Glazer stooge' etc. On that basis, Arnold was safest under Ratcliffe. Although a few of us thought Ratcliffe would be the more serious about it and would take the steps he is looking like he will do.
Regardless, I do wonder if Jassim was buying his vote/backing with the above in mind. Perhaps promising him a role in some capacity, or even told him he will keep his job. It's the only way it makes sense, unless Arnold was willing to sacrifice himself for what he believed to be the good of the club - which I find incredibly unlikely.
Regardless, I do wonder if Jassim was buying his vote/backing with the above in mind. Perhaps promising him a role in some capacity, or even told him he will keep his job. It's the only way it makes sense, unless Arnold was willing to sacrifice himself for what he believed to be the good of the club - which I find incredibly unlikely.
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It’s not the point which is being debated. Rather it’s a little strange that he’s decided to be a bit vague all of a sudden.
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