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The thread title really makes it seem like the INEOS announcement will not be until the new year, shortly after Arnold leaves his role.
I don't think it's personal against him, just that he's obviously not the right man for the job.Seeing a lot of 'good riddance' style takes for Arnold.
From what I have seen he seems a pretty genuine guy and I do get the impression he cares about the club. He's made some feck-ups (mainly Greenwood and some transfers) but I don't really get the animosity.
How is that a debate though? He knows nothing. When he's rehashed public info hel need to give vague statements to continue fishing for gullable subscribers.It’s not the point which is being debated. Rather it’s a little strange that he’s decided to be a bit vague all of a sudden.
Its also the fact he so clearly ended up in the job because of the jobs for the boys approach at the clubI don't think it's personal against him, just that he's obviously not the right man for the job.
It's similar to how Ole Gunnar Solskjær clearly cared about the club but ultimately isn't cut out to manage it!
Im sure he is a nice bloke. It's not good riddance as in we want the club to put a bounty on his head. Just he's not up to the job, we've been a total laughing stock the last few months to the extent its affecting us on field. The club will be better off without him in charge.Seeing a lot of 'good riddance' style takes for Arnold.
From what I have seen he seems a pretty genuine guy and I do get the impression he cares about the club. He's made some feck-ups (mainly Greenwood and some transfers) but I don't really get the animosity.
I mean considering that Blanc works for INEOS (hence the Blanc will definitely be involved even if not CEO himself), has experience as a CEO for major European football clubs, it's not rocket science. Paul Mitchell has been mentioned countless times by many news outlets and until recently was the only one linked to the job which is why he's probably now gone for 60%. He was more sure last week when Mitchell was the only name mentioned....
Both are already INEOS employees so it's obvious they will be involved on some levelWhich is rehashed information from public news. Everyone knows Ratcliffe will bring Blanc and Brailsford. In fact Brailsford was tjpped to have a major part since our first round of bids back 6 months ago. Blanc has been a name mentioned for a long time too.
Will likely be heavily influenced by RatcliffeWho's next then? Cathartic seeing people who have overseen a decade of repeated failure finally get what's coming to them.
It's a good sign but I wouldn't go full cocks out until his new appointments actually bring some success. It's one thing to clear out the deadwood, it's another to actually get the right people in.And so the culling begins. Brighter times ahead at Utd for me. Full faith that SJR will turn our fortunes around and shut up all the haters who wanted Qatar at all costs.
His whole game is to come across as ITK.Both are already INEOS employees so it's obvious they will be involved on some level
And he's even quoting Ornstein himself so TBF he's not making out to be ITK, he's just filtering out the wheat from the chaff
It's just a sign of desperation on the part of the poor fella. Expecting some saviour to roll in and make everything better. If only life is like a Hollywood movie..It's a good sign but I wouldn't go full cocks out until his new appointments actually bring some success. It's one thing to clear out the deadwood, it's another to actually get the right people in.
He doesn't care, he's going to end up with a nice parachute payment which will set him up for retirement nicely.Bet Arnold is massively regretting turning up to meet Ratcliffe in trainers, a v-neck and open collared shirt with no tie the scruffy bastard
Yeah that's fine. People are leveling personal insults at him though (mainly on Twitter).I don't think it's personal against him, just that he's obviously not the right man for the job.
It's similar to how Ole Gunnar Solskjær clearly cared about the club but ultimately isn't cut out to manage it!
I get that. It's just that I have a genuine good feeling about this change at Utd. Based on absolutely nothing of course. I trust SJR to appoint the best in class. It will take time, but he will surprise a lot of people in the end.It's a good sign but I wouldn't go full cocks out until his new appointments actually bring some success. It's one thing to clear out the deadwood, it's another to actually get the right people in.
Get the new people in and immediately sack them so we can get the fresh start feeling again, I say.It's a good sign but I wouldn't go full cocks out until his new appointments actually bring some success. It's one thing to clear out the deadwood, it's another to actually get the right people in.
Sure it is. Sure. Poor fella? Sad. Very sad.It's just a sign of desperation on the part of the poor fella. Expecting some saviour to roll in and make everything better. If only life is like a Hollywood movie..
He’s technically left it now, with Stewart in place in the interim. Statement says he’s helping out during the transition period until the end of December.The thread title really makes it seem like the INEOS announcement will not be until the new year, shortly after Arnold leaves his role.
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100%. It's a positive start, Murtough and Fletcher must be next.The only way ratcliffe earns any respect is if he goes and gets the absolute best available footballing people. We want the best DOF, best CEO, best recruitment/scouting networks. Absolute best in class in a footballing sense of the word. Thats the only way he gets any respect at this point. What he does with the structure of the club is the most important aspect of his takeover imo.
no more sentimentality. No more friends FC or ex United players getting jobs. Proven track records only. Go and raid the best people, test their resolves at current clubs. It’s a massive mess that’s going to take the top people to even begin to put it right.
He’s got to be utterly ruthless at this point.
I’m sure reports at the time had Jassim down for keeping staff and giving all a chance to impress.On the face of it I find it strange that Arnold voted against Ratcliffe. At the time, the overriding feeling was that Qatar were going to through money at the project, hire the best in class across the board, the whole lot. Whereas Ratcliffe was the 'Glazer stooge' etc. On that basis, Arnold was safest under Ratcliffe. Although a few of us thought Ratcliffe would be the more serious about it and would take the steps he is looking like he will do.
Regardless, I do wonder if Jassim was buying his vote/backing with the above in mind. Perhaps promising him a role in some capacity, or even told him he will keep his job. It's the only way it makes sense, unless Arnold was willing to sacrifice himself for what he believed to be the good of the club - which I find incredibly unlikely.
How does Fletcher keep being brought into these conversations? He’s not a DoF. Clearly his stupid job title confuses some. His job is to oversee kids coming through to the first team and so far he’s well.. Garnacho, Mainoo, Gore, Hannibal and given his input into which aren’t gonna make the cut.Interested to see what happens to the Murtough x Fletcher level of the structure now.
No need for thatBye bye Arnold you absolute sack of shit
It’s untenable because Arnold was obviously leaking the Qatar stuff to Murtough and Fletcher and that’s where Rio took his punt which proved to be untrue. The interim is simply a place setter, the end is now in site and Sir Jim will be controlling the sports side. The rumour in the press is that £245m will be broken into two parts.Ok the whole voting angle could well be the 'more to the story' I mentioned. It implies that his position is untenable, as mentioned above.
@Woziak I'm more than happy to give him a chance. I was one of the minority that wanted Ratcliffe over Qatar. Just thought it was interesting as, as you mentioned, it implied that his position was completely untenable even in the short term for whatever reason,
As you say his job title has him unfairly lumped alongside Murtough and Arnold.How does Fletcher keep being brought into these conversations? He’s not a DoF. Clearly his stupid job title confuses some. His job is to oversee kids coming through to the first team and so far he’s well.. Garnacho, Mainoo, Gore, Hannibal and given his input into which aren’t gonna make the cut.
Your first mistake is taking any notice of people's opinions on TwitterYeah that's fine. People are leveling personal insults at him though (mainly on Twitter).
you want to read some of the shit of facebook.Yeah that's fine. People are leveling personal insults at him though (mainly on Twitter).