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I think the most interesting part of all these pieces is nobody seems to have a scooby how much this guy or his dad are actually worth - but the initial press reporting about him being some unknown is bollocks - he’s clearly very influential in financial circles.
From reading the piece posted above from FT, the insinuation is that his father has ridiculous amounts of money.
 

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I think the most interesting part of all these pieces is nobody seems to have a scooby how much this guy or his dad are actually worth - but the initial press reporting about him being some unknown is bollocks - he’s clearly very influential in financial circles.
His dad is known and influential. He's not unknown, but he seems like he's hardly influential. This isn't the profile of someone influential:

Sheikh Jassim bin Hamad al-Thani was just 28 when he joined the board of Credit Suisse in 2010, tasked with representing Qatari interests after investors from the Gulf emirate poured billions into the Swiss bank.

He arrived at the Zurich-based lender with a low profile, and after seven years with a seat at the top table, left with one.

“The only recollection I have is that he was rather a quiet man,” said one former fellow director, while another person who often attended meetings added: “I don’t recall him speaking at all.”


Big swinging dick of finance indeed :rolleyes:
 

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When I come in this thread I see posts about Mancunians supposedly not wanting the Qatari bid. When I open my door all Mancunians do is tell me how excited they are at the prospect. Something isn’t adding up.
 

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He wants the United job.
Been the case since he entered coaching but he's behind Carrick in the queue at this point.

The job hopefully won't be available for many many years though.

Think he'll end up managing Everton before he ever gets a chance with us.
 

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When I come in this thread I see posts about Mancunians supposedly not wanting the Qatari bid. When I open my door all Mancunians do is tell me how excited they are at the prospect. Something isn’t adding up.
All I am hearing is excitement around Qatar. Gym, business networks and those environments where football chatter is the norm. There's a massive difference between online hysteria and what's transitioning in reality. I do appreciate the voicing of valid concerns but there's too much exaggeration going on.
 

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His dad is known and influential. He's not unknown, but he seems like he's hardly influential. This isn't the profile of someone influential:

Sheikh Jassim bin Hamad al-Thani was just 28 when he joined the board of Credit Suisse in 2010, tasked with representing Qatari interests after investors from the Gulf emirate poured billions into the Swiss bank.

He arrived at the Zurich-based lender with a low profile, and after seven years with a seat at the top table, left with one.

“The only recollection I have is that he was rather a quiet man,” said one former fellow director, while another person who often attended meetings added: “I don’t recall him speaking at all.”


Big swinging dick of finance indeed :rolleyes:
That’s true - his influence likely all comes from his father.
 

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Interesting piece, fascinating to get some insight into the man from people who know him. Would be good to hear him speak mind, and confirm that it’s his dads fund and not state funding that is paying for his bid.
I think him and Jim need to go on mastermind - specialist topic Manchester United. Let’s put these supposed fans to the test!
 

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I don't hate the Glazers near as much as others but that is a particularly funny quote coming from someone who declared he wanted to leave for City due to our lack of ambition in the transfer market.
 

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Interesting read. The push is surely that this is an independent id by Jassim.
If true, does this mean that all of the advocates for a state takeover of United (because that's apparently the only way to compete with City and Newcastle long term) are no longer backing Jassim's bid?

While Jassim's father is a very wealthy man (net worth generally estimated between £1.3bn and £2bn), Jassim is one of fifteen children and has no significant net worth of his own, so it seems that even with his father's backing, a Jassim-led United will have no chance of matching the spending power of City/Newcastle/PSG. Does this not worry the Mbappe fans? Jim Ratcliffe is significantly wealthier than Jassim or his father, but will seemingly need to add debt to Ineos's balance sheet to help finance the United takeover.
 

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If true, does this mean that all of the advocates for a state takeover of United (because that's apparently the only way to compete with City and Newcastle long term) are no longer backing Jassim's bid?

While Jassim's father is a very wealthy man (net worth generally estimated between £1.3bn and £2bn), Jassim is one of fifteen children and has no significant net worth of his own, so it seems that even with his father's backing, a Jassim-led United will have no chance of matching the spending power of City/Newcastle/PSG. Does this not worry the Mbappe fans? Jim Ratcliffe is significantly wealthier than Jassim or his father, but will seemingly need to add debt to Ineos's balance sheet to help finance the United takeover.
I can't comment on others, however, Jassim getting rid of all debts and building the infrastructure needed, we can only spend what is within ffp regulations on signings, etc, anyway. So, I'm not too sure what it matters how wealthy he is?!

An owner cannot spend his/her own money on transfers.
 

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I think the most interesting part of all these pieces is nobody seems to have a scooby how much this guy or his dad are actually worth - but the initial press reporting about him being some unknown is bollocks - he’s clearly very influential in financial circles.
It's pretty standard for all of the Middle eastern royal family members. Musk/Bezos/etc. get widely publicized for being "richest men on earth" but it's well known that some of these oil families blow those guys out of the water.
 

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If true, does this mean that all of the advocates for a state takeover of United (because that's apparently the only way to compete with City and Newcastle long term) are no longer backing Jassim's bid?

While Jassim's father is a very wealthy man (net worth generally estimated between £1.3bn and £2bn), Jassim is one of fifteen children and has no significant net worth of his own, so it seems that even with his father's backing, a Jassim-led United will have no chance of matching the spending power of City/Newcastle/PSG. Does this not worry the Mbappe fans? Jim Ratcliffe is significantly wealthier than Jassim or his father, but will seemingly need to add debt to Ineos's balance sheet to help finance the United takeover.
Boy that sure is a lot of assumptions from you and that totally serious post you made.
 

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It's pretty standard for all of the Middle eastern royal family members. Musk/Bezos/etc. get widely publicized for being "richest men on earth" but it's well known that some of these oil families blow those guys out of the water.
I wouldn’t be shocked if the Saudis were given their own currency mint and literally print money.
 

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“The only recollection I have is that he was rather a quiet man,” said one former fellow director, while another person who often attended meetings added: “I don’t recall him speaking at all.”

Big swinging dick of finance indeed :rolleyes:
You don't get it! At that age (28), representative of the familys investment, I would have done the same thing. Keep quiet, listen and learn.
At least he knew what he didn't know rather than blabbering out like some rich kid!

Quite mature of him in fact.
 

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When I come in this thread I see posts about Mancunians supposedly not wanting the Qatari bid. When I open my door all Mancunians do is tell me how excited they are at the prospect. Something isn’t adding up.
It’s common, human nature. Giving a crowd of people, it’s only a few willing to speak the loudest.
 

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The puff is strong with this article. Sounds like it was written by a teenage fangirl. Some interesting bits but mostly trying to push the agenda it's a private bid which I don't believe.

Yeah, he can feck off. He's been speaking well after his retirement but stuff like this reminds me why I don't want ex-players anywhere near the club.
 

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Let me tell you, then: Abu Dhabi, like Qatar, is ruled by a family based dictatorship which have built up wealth on the back of huge oil findings and a kafala system of exploiting and deceiving migrant workers devoid of citicen rights. Free speech and free press is banned by the City owners. Well aware of the short perspective of oil richness, they have started a diversification process aimed at transforming their money into other forms of wealth without having to relinquish power, give inhabitantsrights as citizens or stop persecuting and torturing their own people for political reasons. To succeed in that, they deemmit necessary to simultaneously invest in varius Western and international projects, and to make their oppressing dictatorship more palatable and attractive as business partners, they are investing in sports to make some people get used to them, others to defend them. This ploy has been used by most dictatorships since the early days of Rome, it’s not really very unusual as PR stunts for oppressors. Abu Dhabi has in fact been so succesfull with this project that now even people who hated them intensely for all sorts of reason, willuse them as a beacon for how Man United should be used similarily. Do you now see more of what political gain they get?

I’m sure you do not really believe they just do it for the fun and banter.
You seem sharp. Do you think that while derailing it is likely impossible for fans with the present conditions (low class consciousness and learned helplessness, even after Murdoch), focusing on a key ethical demand or 2 in exchange for a non-boycott or whatever leverage can be organized is probably unlikely, but a more achievable ambition for the fans in here looking to organized in response to it?

That's my thinking, but I haven't really engaged a ton with this, it's too depressing to think about United in the same way I have to think about doing anti-poverty organizing, would rather think about football.
 

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Let me tell you, then: Abu Dhabi, like Qatar, is ruled by a family based dictatorship which have built up wealth on the back of huge oil findings and a kafala system of exploiting and deceiving migrant workers devoid of citicen rights. Free speech and free press is banned by the City owners. Well aware of the short perspective of oil richness, they have started a diversification process aimed at transforming their money into other forms of wealth without having to relinquish power, give inhabitantsrights as citizens or stop persecuting and torturing their own people for political reasons. To succeed in that, they deemmit necessary to simultaneously invest in varius Western and international projects, and to make their oppressing dictatorship more palatable and attractive as business partners, they are investing in sports to make some people get used to them, others to defend them. This ploy has been used by most dictatorships since the early days of Rome, it’s not really very unusual as PR stunts for oppressors. Abu Dhabi has in fact been so succesfull with this project that now even people who hated them intensely for all sorts of reason, willuse them as a beacon for how Man United should be used similarily. Do you now see more of what political gain they get?

I’m sure you do not really believe they just do it for the fun and banter.
Who do you think established those countries and gave free rein to the tribes they installed as rulers?
 
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