Club Sale | It’s done!
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That overlap episode was utter horse trash.
When it comes to United Apparantly we’re above wanting to be successful and getting back to the pinnacle of the game.
I can’t believe people are pulling the morality card after a World Cup in Qatar everyone gobbled up and City have been lauded for a decade.
Carl Anka specifically taking a moral crusade was quite amusing - I wouldn’t still go to games but I will because it’s my job…so money supersedes morals…
I just don’t know where they are going with all that.
When it comes to United Apparantly we’re above wanting to be successful and getting back to the pinnacle of the game.
I can’t believe people are pulling the morality card after a World Cup in Qatar everyone gobbled up and City have been lauded for a decade.
Carl Anka specifically taking a moral crusade was quite amusing - I wouldn’t still go to games but I will because it’s my job…so money supersedes morals…
I just don’t know where they are going with all that.
We move. Less drama, more healthy investment into the club ASAP!
I don't even know why anyone here is even debating an "if" at this point. The sale is happening...because the Glazers need to sell. I won't go over the logic I posted in previous posts, but they financially cannot keep the club at this point. Its impossible.
Likely the only bidders that are viable and can make the sale work are the Qatari...it's the Qatari folks. Best get used to the idea, because there is zero chance the Glazers will be owning this team in mere months.
Likely the only bidders that are viable and can make the sale work are the Qatari...it's the Qatari folks. Best get used to the idea, because there is zero chance the Glazers will be owning this team in mere months.
The below is pretty shocking and it's more than a few abhorrent messages. And I don't believe a Leopard changes it's spots, especially in Moody's case after getting caught.
Below via Matt Lawton.
'Fkn chinkys. Fk it. There's enough dogs in Cardiff for us all to go around.'
On the arrival of South Korean international Kim Bo-Kyung
'Go on, fat Phil. Nothing like a Jew that sees money slipping through his fingers'
On football agent Phil Smith
'He's a snake, a gay snake. Not to be trusted'
On an official of another club
'Not many white faces amongst that lot but worth considering.'
On a list of potential signings
'I hope she's looking after your needs. I bet you'd love a bounce on her falsies.'
On a player's female agent
A picture entitled Black Monopoly (where every square was a "Go to Jail" square)
Sent to members of Cardiff's staff
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/f...st-homophobic-text-messages-time-Cardiff.html
Also Malky Mackay doesn't have any relevance to the conversation in question. And he's also a piece of crap and I'd be just as scathing of Ratcliffe if he had hired Mackay.
I don't believe anyone taking a moral high ground would hire Iain Moody as a recruitment specialist. But I can see people who separate moral values from sporting performance, hiring a controversial figure like Moody. But the funny thing is, Moody isn't even known to excell on the Sporting side of a football club and it was no suprise that Ratcliffe bringing him in to oversee the summer transfer of 2022, caused more problems than he solved. Because he (Moody) was signing players that were at odds with the way Favre wanted to play, hence Favre was furious with how things were developing on the recruitment front.
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I’ve read that article before I posted because I wasn’t sure at that point who Moody was. That’s 6 messages and it seems unclear to me who was sending what out of the two idiots.
Whether he was a success or not, your initial post was about Ratcliffe hiring Moody after his racist and homophonic background and was intended to discredit him personally - interesting that you didn’t say INEOS but SJR specifically. But you’ve made my point for me here - it’s a purely business decision. I don’t think it discredits SJR or INeOS as much as you want it to.
The club can quite comfortably run itself.. what we don’t is the debt interest payments and the dividends coming out every year. We don’t need state fund to pump £100m’s into the club unlike the likes of Newcastle and City as we have the revenue to do it ourselves.. but like Neville said where are you going to find someone who has £5bn in pocket change knocking about to buy a toy (with no debt) who isn’t the likes of Qatar, China or the Saudis.. never going to happen.
I couldn’t care less who buys the club.. just want The Glazers to feck off at this point.
I couldn’t care less who buys the club.. just want The Glazers to feck off at this point.
Was I supposed to credit Ratcliffe for hiring a racist, homophobe who also never excelled when it came to sporting performance? And Ratcliffe is the face of INEOS and the major shareholder in the company. So yes, Ratcliffe and not his company is the bone of contention.
I agree, it was a purely business decision by Ratcliffe. Not a very good one from a football perspective. But what I'm trying to highlight here is that Ratcliffe cares about the bottom line and not whether a individual he hires, upholds moral values. The same as a lot of football fans who want the best for their football clubs and don't want to mix politics with the sport they love.
State owned indefinitely the wrong way to go then
The horse has already bolted in that regard well over a decade ago. And those clubs and their fans are quite happy with how the sporting performance has developed at their clubs. Those fans don't mix politics with football.State owned indefinitely the wrong way to go then
But they are not as shocking as jailing people for having gay sex, right?
They are not, as a matter of fact.
Brexit Jimbo is a tax dodging Little Englander, likely rather racist (in an old school grandpa way, not actual rope wielding KKK way) polluting capitalist, but on the moral and competitive integrity scale he is still infinitely preferable to the Qatari regime. And I’m saying this as a foreign fan who would probably be the least valued in his worldview, with his ‘bring Manchester back to Manchester United’ slogan.
Being gay is wrong according to people who follow Christianity, Judaism and Islam. I've known that since I was very young and it doesn't come as a surprise to me. The Glazers are Jewish, and could well be practicing the Jewish faith, which prohibits homosexuality. I don't have any issues with them following their faith. But none of the above applies under British law.
Unlikely. Whoever buys us.
Did anybody order the casual slander? Libel? Anybody, no?
No even just jailed, but infact maximum sentence is death by stoning. But hey, they are just following their religion. It’s all gravy.
Love is love. All red, all equal - the only message the club should be associated with.
Birds of a feather and all that.Did anybody order the casual slander? Libel? Anybody, no?
I’m quite comfortable calling out someone who backs and is a beneficiary of a political party/governent known for being racist, and who hired known racist to work for him, as a racist.
Just because he’s a better choice than the Qatari doesn’t mean he’s a savory character.
Are you an ostrich?
They are all as bad as each other. I guess we’re all just as racist for voting for them.
Also racist by association? That’s a new one.
You could elaborate and tell me how Man City's owners have caused a divide within their fan base.Are you an ostrich?
The Glazers can be criticized for many things but i really find this post very disingenuous.
The post isn't criticising the Glazers.
Come on man, you are one of the best United posters on the site. You're better than this.
I'm sorry, I will now depart this thread and conversation.
If you willingly associate yourself with people known for their racism, then obviously it’s not a deal breaker to you. There’s a name for that, whether you like it or not, I believe MLK once commented on that.
If you vote for the Tories, especially after the Windrush scandal, then yeah, you just have to own it. But we are already off topic of this thread.
The larger point remains, all of the options for takeover are just different shades of shit, morally speaking, and regardless of your preference, there’s no point sugarcoating them. I don’t have an issue with posters who want Qatar, even though I think it’s wrong, as long as they don’t get themselves in a twist trying to pretend that it’s not state-backed, just as I don’t condone people trying to talk up INEOS and Ratcliffe as something they are not, even though they are my choice between the two.
Sucks for the people that live over there though
I think the first sentence in your post is a massive simplification, but i think you know this.
You are trying to equate Jews and Christians being against gays (Christians recently changed their mind on that) with being gay being a punishable crime in Qatar.
Shame the tweets only thread hasn’t caught on
Then again there’s bollock all happening
Then again there’s bollock all happening
Apparently, he didn’t.
This will be my last post on this subject, like I mentioned in my previous post. I can take up any response via PM.
I'm not trying to equate anything, and I never said Jews, Christians or Muslims were against gays. But rather the teachings of all three faiths is what each individual from within those faith groups, follows.
And the person who is trying to buy United (Sheikh Jassim) has probably nothing to do with the laws in the country. There's a lot of things that are still very vague surrounding the person in question, which I'm sure we'll know more about in the coming weeks and months. But at this point, there's no evidence that Sheikh Jassim plays any role in how Qatar is governed.
Yes.
It can be wrapped up really fast, and easily before the summer transfer window.
Basically:
-As of today, the Qataris or Ineos could have bought Glazers shares in 48hrs
-The buyer would need to pass the PL directors and owners test, 2-4 weeks
After this point, you can’t start all work streams, with the stadium, clearing the debt etc — but it is a “done deal”. We know that we would get an owner that would back us.
I can't believe that there are still people take SJR bid seriously. This is the same person that submitted Chelsea bid after the deadline day.
He had also made more promises on the Chelsea bid than Man Utd bid.
As of now, the Qatari one looks properly planned with financial backing.
Until some new bidders come in with more attractive plans and commitments spell out, it's Qatari all the way.
We only want the best for the club.
He had also made more promises on the Chelsea bid than Man Utd bid.
As of now, the Qatari one looks properly planned with financial backing.
Until some new bidders come in with more attractive plans and commitments spell out, it's Qatari all the way.
We only want the best for the club.
This is a nonsense argument though. Has he bought Nice to try and topple PSG? I don't think he has. He's clearly not thrown money at it so that's clearly not his main goal there. It's a totally different situation.
Just a matter of time. Should be wrapped up before the window. Fecking slow process though
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