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There is a difference between Ratcliffe saying it directly to the journos and Jassim's PR company leaking things into the press.

Deniablity.

Also, I don't see Ratcliffe's purpose in doing this interview right after the very high-profile meeting last week. If anything Ratcliffe and his team should be busy getting down to crunching out numbers to make the deal work.
Besides the hi-vis meeting, it is odd that he brought his two other partners into the meeting last week -- it seems like he has to convenience them of the potential of the project.
At this stage of the process, when you need to give a first official firm bid, you need the domain knowledge folks (financial and legal) involved who can do the due diligence and analyse to eventually come out with a bid. Not the C-suite folks who aren't the number crunchers.

Thus the cynicism.
My God people are so desperate to hate on the INEOS bid they are now calling out why all three owners were there :houllier:
 

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Its $6bln
To be fair, it's been £6bn since the start according to shitty tabloids. But the broadsheets (Times, Guardian - not sure on Telegraph) seem to avoid mentioning any valuation at all. Basically like a transfer window where no one knows a fecking thing and it's all speculation.

Probably think $6bn should do it, will come down to how it's structured and how greedy the Glazers are ('very' being merely a starting point).

https://www.cityam.com/why-manchest...-asking-price-despite-cristiano-ronaldo-exit/

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/manchester-united-sale-price-glazers-29253275

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/f...chester United,the club, according to reports.
 

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Its £6B they want, so its still far off.
Of course they want £6B. They’re not going to say “oh we would take anything, make us an offer.”

It’s typical negotiations. The buying party starts low, the selling company starts high.
 

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Really? Because most reports have repeatedly said it’s 6 billion pounds they’re looking for not dollars.
True it's abit off, but hopefully the Glazers will think this is the best offer we'll get and compromise. Wishful thinking but you never know.
Its been completely bungled by the UK media and now they have thrown Euros into the mix to confuse things further.
Raine is handling the sale and the Glazers are American further to this, the shares on the NYSE are dollar shares.

They price for United is $6bln, pounds and euros dont come into it unless some conversion is going on.

$6bln
£4.9bln
Euro 5.6bln

Its just hyperbole to list it as the highest possible in terms of what they are asking for so £6bln, which we have seen all over the press even as high as £7/8 and similarly to list the lowest possible amount from the bids so $4.5bln. Which is all nonsense.

$6bln - starting and lowest acceptable bid.
 

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To be fair, it's been £6bn since the start according to shitty tabloids. But the broadsheets (Times, Guardian - not sure on Telegraph) seem to avoid mentioning any valuation at all. Basically like a transfer window where no one knows a fecking thing and it's all speculation.

Probably think $6bn should do it, will come down to how it's structured and how greedy the Glazers are ('very' being merely a starting point).

https://www.cityam.com/why-manchest...-asking-price-despite-cristiano-ronaldo-exit/

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/manchester-united-sale-price-glazers-29253275

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-11767827/The-Glazers-not-budge-6billion-asking-price-Manchester-United.html#:~:text=Prospective buyers of Manchester United,the club, according to reports.
Is it a British or American billion? An African or European swallow?
 

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There is a difference between Ratcliffe saying it directly to the journos and Jassim's PR company leaking things into the press.

Deniablity.

Also, I don't see Ratcliffe's purpose in doing this interview right after the very high-profile meeting last week. If anything Ratcliffe and his team should be busy getting down to crunching out numbers to make the deal work.
Besides the hi-vis meeting, it is odd that he brought his two other partners into the meeting last week -- it seems like he has to convenience them of the potential of the project.
At this stage of the process, when you need to give a first official firm bid, you need the domain knowledge folks (financial and legal) involved who can do the due diligence and analyse to eventually come out with a bid. Not the C-suite folks who aren't the number crunchers.

Thus the cynicism.
They both have a significant financial interest in both INEOS and this deal. Of course they would be present.
Plus, who wouldn’t want a tour of OT and Carrington. They are football fans too.
You think Sir Jim summoned them at gun point?! :lol:
 

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According to sky is £6b
Sky don't know whether they need a shit or a haircut. And we expect them to know the difference between £$€¥

its how they do things. We sell someone on £ they report it with the same figure but in € whereas when we buy someone in € they report it in £. Sometimes, they do it multiple times, inflating the figure each time. That how we spend £100m on Antony
 

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They both have a significant financial interest in both INEOS and this deal. Of course they would be present.
Plus, who wouldn’t want a tour of OT and Carrington. They are football fans too.
You think Sir Jim summoned them at gun point?! :lol:
It won't be Jim & his partners doing the number crunching & legal due diligence esp in such a short turnaround. C-suite guys don't do that. Their team does that.
 

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It won't be Jim & his partners doing the number crunching & legal due diligence esp in such a short turnaround. C-suite guys don't do that. Their team does that.
Yes, but INEOS is a private company so ultimately it’s their money on the line. I’d want to know what I was getting into before the deal personally - seeming so do the INEOS trio.
 

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Some people think Ratcliffe is a chancer that doesn't have the money so to them anything he says will be seen as negative. If he's bullish about the bid: he's just trying to save face, attempts to play hard ball on the bid: he's backing out.
 

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Yes, but INEOS is a private company so ultimately it’s their money on the line. I’d want to know what I was getting into before the deal personally - seeming so do the INEOS trio.
You have to assume he is a serious, smart guy. And not that its ''a private company'' and he can do whatever he wants with his money.

That should have been done at stage 1 when they were going through their indicative offer. Not when you need to kick the tires and look at the legal, and financial obligations, revenue projection and its future value etc.

7 days turnaround is extremely fast to do this deal with all that preliminary DD that's required.

Not sure I would commit in reality $8-10 billion into this project this quickly.
 
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Stop being infantile. Its nothing to do with 'hate' -- it's an operational issue.
It’s the three owners of a company all going to an an extremely high profile meeting regarding the possibility of acquiring one of the biggest sports brands in the World.

But sure, you can find that strange if you like and pretend it has nothing to do with your negative bias to all thing INEOS.
 

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It’s the three owners of a company all going to an an extremely high profile meeting regarding the possibility of acquiring one of the biggest sports brands in the World.

But sure, you can find that strange if you like and pretend it has nothing to do with your negative bias to all thing INEOS.
see above.
 

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I’ve seen it, it’s nonsense. Of course the 3 owners would all want to be present.
There’s nothing even remotely strange with those three all wanting to be heavily involved and at that meeting.
I’d have to agree. It would be more strange to not want to be there. I imagine this whole process is quite exciting for them.
 
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