Of the two options which has got a better record on Human Rights?
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And that bears relevance to the Venn Diagram how?
Oh was Brexit about human rights was it?
No need to conflate things mate.
I don't think there's any correlation between voting Leave and preferring Sir Jim over Qatar. I'd argue the opposite and that Brexit voters are more likely to favour a Qatar ownership based on not caring about the consequences and just wanting the option with the most money to spend.
The only thing the two arguments have in common is that both are a case of weighing up the least worst option.
What?Just wondering out of curiosity, how many of the anti-Qatar folks wouldn't give a toss about this stuff if they were not buying United. How many of them who see a pretty woman, first thing they say is 'Oh I certainly would' or 'I couldn't care less about the woman's football team. Why are we wasting money on the women's team when that would buy us a strikerWomen are stupid, women driversThe other way round, hope people read all this and not just the first bit, drive cars that eat up petrol, travel here there and everywhere on planes for business, throw litter on the floor, leave dog crap lying around, rather than cleaning it up. That is just bad for the environment, it is a danger to young children as bacteria in it can cause blindness. How many recycle properly. Whatever side of the argument, we will all likely be hypocrits.
cool, it would be interesting to see a Venn Diagram neverthelessI support turning off everyone’s interweb until this is done & dusted!
So being sexually attracted to a woman and being uninterested in women's football is comparable to Qatar's oppression of women? You must be trolling.Just wondering out of curiosity, how many of the anti-Qatar folks wouldn't give a toss about this stuff if they were not buying United. How many of them who see a pretty woman, first thing they say is 'Oh I certainly would' or 'I couldn't care less about the woman's football team. Why are we wasting money on the women's team when that would buy us a strikerWomen are stupid, women drivers
Sounds like a made up argument he's created in his head, divorced from reality just so he can continue to justify his support of the Qatari state even though somewhere deep down he knows it's unjustifiable.
I feel that Ratcliffe will feel right at home with the Glazers. Maybe they can ask Woodward to return so he could help Brailsford and Bob Ratcliffe plan for the future
Some argued back then that they wanted Brexit as it would allow non EU migrants to come in as opposed to just EU migrants. In reality they wanted no one
Women's rights in Malta, the monarchy, BREXIT
Anything related to the takeover in this thread?
Anything related to the takeover in this thread?
Maybe, but it is worse than they were before INEOS.
Between 15/16 and 18/19 (the 4 seasons prior to INEOS) Nice averaged 62,7 pts per season.
From 19/20 until now ( the 4 seasons with INEOS) Nice has an average of 55,6 pts per season.
They kind of quickly destroyed the team that got them 66 points last year (21/22). And their captain is explaining publically that they are badly managed, changing too many players with no logical plan or strategy...
Nope
I have some really weird kinks, okay? I admit it. I'm not proud of it.
Personally I'm not silent. I'm an active pain in the hole for lots of people who wish I would stfu.
It's not simplistic at all.
I like a good boycott.
I also believe really strongly in human rights and workers rights. You seem to think arbitrary lines on maps trump this. That's simplistic to my world view.
And I do also like holding elected reps to account.
Societies change in time, not always for the better. It's why we bother with international laws.
So you disagreed with the boycott on South Africa?
The devil you know at this point…in light of SJR’s failures at Nice, I’m starting to think we’d be better off with the glazers pulling out and staying w the club.
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What are the odds they are going to sell before next season starts? Feckers.
An so the head of this vast club network would be Malaga.
Makes sense. All the sense.
Not quite.
I respect your views, however South Africa was different. South Africa was subject to boycotts from the world community at large and most nations.
The South African issue was nothing like Qatar. The UK Government had placed sanctions against South Africa, the UK government has encouraged Qatari investment. Sports teams were banned from travelling to South Africa, we have just held a World Cup in Qatar.
Leeches want their 6 billion - no other reason for this delay.
This has been a dog's breakfast from the start. Nobody in the media knows anything about the sale. If information is leaked, it can be taken as breaking the law as a public company is for sale. Rumours appear daily to sell papers and advertising space on YouTube. Only Sir Jim and the Qataries know what is happening and even they may not know the full story. So chill out, it will be sold when it's sold. Sir Jim's offer looks the most tempting for the greedy Glazers if details of his offer are true. Any sale will be announced on the NYSE before anywhere else.
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Understand Sheikh Jassim is not considering West Ham if unsuccessful in buying Manchester United. Nine Two Foundation haven't made any approach or even discussed West Ham internally.
The opposite of this would be true. The Venn diagram would show the Brexit voters as pro-Qatar - the same people that want to keep politics out of sport, that opposed black players taking the knee, that don't care who own United as long as they get a transfer rush. The framing of people being opposed to Qatar as racists is just a bad faith argument.
So buying a club, telling the fans that you we will challenge for the league, but instead go backwards is perfectly fine? Imagine doing the same thing with united and when they fail you say it is "perfectly fine"
.So a Qatari messes up owning Malaga, now the state comes in to fix it instead?
Why has that changed from reddit to redcafe?
I’m sorry this isn’t football related mods, but I can’t let that go unchallenged.
It has been said over and over again that the majority of people who prefer Jim do so for non footballing reasons, namely abuses of human rights in Qatar. Being British is nothing to do with it. I hate everything to do with a Union Jack and voted remain, but would prefer Ineos.
Why do you think that those with a social conscience would have wanted Brexit to happen? I would say that if anything, it would be the other way around. Leaving aside all of the trade stuff, most remainers knew that Brexit would likely lead to loss of workers rights etc due to the dropping of EU laws. This is the exact thing that is causing people to speak negatively against Qatar.
People that don't want to sell the club's soul to a murderous, human rights abusing regime are Brexit voters.
I'm not even from the UK but that's hilarious from you.
Oh Malcy, to think what could have been.
But, but Jassim and his foundation are completely independent from the Qatari state right?
Right?
I said this about 200 pages ago, maybe more
I just don't want Qatar to own us simple as that we don't need state backing.
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