You’ve left once you can leave a 2nd time I guess if it happens
Club Sale | It’s done!
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We've seen this year how broke we are - scrambling for a desperate loan move for a striker in January and ending up with Burnley failure Weghorst and in the summer having to be creative towards the end with loan deals again.
This surely will only get progressively worse each window? I worry about what the squad might look like in a couple of years.
This surely will only get progressively worse each window? I worry about what the squad might look like in a couple of years.
No people aren’t queuing up at this price because of the huge debt and couple of billion that needs to be pumped into the club, even more if you really want to maximise all the area around the ground etc. They won’t be queuing up in 2 years at that price either let alone 10bn, it’s just not worth it.
They were lucky to get a bid from a state this time around, there is a good chance they don’t get that again. The club is and has always been a shambles in terms of leadership, ambition and recruitment since SAF left (he papered over it). But they always had cash to fall back on, they don’t have it now. Imagine if they have to sack ETH, they don’t have funds to start again and pay him off.
By all accounts they should sell and I thought they would but there is this nagging feeling that whatever they get offered won’t be enough and they’ll have to be 100% certain there isn’t a new revenue stream on the horizon.
Congratulations mate - get some rest today though.I have a nine month baby girl I was up with all night as we are trying to sleep train her. I don’t think I’ve touched any alcohol for weeks now
I'm not really talking about United in a vacuum. The whole of football is reprehensible these days. Calling United a "club" is just incorrect at this point. Its a business and functions like one and the owners take money out if it like a business.
Oil money just adds more disgust into it.
Manchester United winning a title next year will not be what it used to be.
It'll mean the business was able to spend more money . Where it comes from who the feck knows.
It's a money circus
I think… I can remember what being rested feels like.
Lets not kid ourselves and think this is a new thing. Footballs been spiralling out of control for decades, the majority of our trophies under Sir Alex was partly due to the amount of money we spent. All you have to do is look at the all time spending charts and you'll see that.
We're still spending a butt ton of money too, it's just we've spent it very badly over the past 5-6 seasons.
If football clubs were solely businesses then we wouldn’t have a bid of £5bn on the table.
I would love to believe that, but we have to be honest with ourselves and in many ways they already are. Obviously we have history, but so do Forest and they're a small club these days. As our fanbase dwindles and City continue to win everything, getting more and more media coverage and glamour, they will inevitably outgrow a club which by then will only have age on our side.
In time, on current trajectory, City will end up with more money, more glory, more trophies, more fans and more media coverage. In which way will they be smaller? Obviously it'll take years but the way they're being allowed to hoover up talent and trophies without worrying about little things like cheating, it won't be that long in the grand scheme of things.
Ha ok, another decade of this nonsense that United is pulling. Lets see what happens.
Not having what?
You opposed the Glazers in 2005 because why? I guess it is because they wanted to load debt on the club and thus harm the clubs ability to compete at the top level.
And now you oppose the Qatar take over because why? It certainly isn't because they're going to harm the football club the way the Glazers have over the last 18 years.
You need a reality check, there is no benevolent benefactor with £6bn burning a hole in their pocket with no ulterior motive. It's cnutish hedgefunds who are hoping to break the collective PL bargaining and sell TV rights individually, cnutish billionaires who are looking for the same (or an ego trip or to greenwash etc etc) or states who are looking to diversify their economies for a future without oil and gas. That's it, there are no other options.
Yup. The sad thing is, United have become a massive meme in recent years - which is brutal in the social media era.
So still nothing from any of the usual suspects that you would expect to be all over this story.
10bn
What planet are these leeches living on. It would be almost twice what the record is a for sports team
What planet are these leeches living on. It would be almost twice what the record is a for sports team
This thread title has got to stop being tweaked when nothing has happened. Nearly stopped my heart until I checked why. 
It’s very easy to get activity from our fan base. It’s a good reason our name is used in every article even if it’s not about us at all.
This article is at best speculative and made to get clicks and views.
Even if he hasn't done anything wrong, he or his dad wouldn't be billionaires if they weren't royals.
Also, what are the chances they have different views on their country's human rights issues? What are the chances they oppose anything that's wrong with their penal code?
And all these hypotheticals can only be asked if it really isn't a state bid, which is unlikely.
Yep we may as well have a transfer ban with our budget likely to keep dropping
I don't disagree. United were a behemoth of financial power but it was organic at the beginning due to how the club was built by the men that built it.
It's hard to know how to feel about the whole thing these days. Selling up to some other soulless corporate entity isn't the panacea that will solve all woes on the pitch and Selling to middle Eastern oil money isn't ideal either
It's a mess.
I try to stick to the 90s mins of a game and ignore the circus.
The FA and the Government stepped in and forced the Russian to sell Chelsea, and yes we know why.
Now surely with all this debt can’t a case be made against the Glazers as unsuitable owners?
Any other business would go into administration with this amount of debt, Jesus we needed to do some very smart business to get Amrabat for this season on loan with an option to buy at the end of the loan, I never thought the day would come when United were in such a poor state.
For gods sake the best thing that can happen now is a survey on OT which shows the same sought of weak concrete as in all these schools that need closing down, that WILL feck the yank cnuts.
Now surely with all this debt can’t a case be made against the Glazers as unsuitable owners?
Any other business would go into administration with this amount of debt, Jesus we needed to do some very smart business to get Amrabat for this season on loan with an option to buy at the end of the loan, I never thought the day would come when United were in such a poor state.
For gods sake the best thing that can happen now is a survey on OT which shows the same sought of weak concrete as in all these schools that need closing down, that WILL feck the yank cnuts.
Anyone else reported this yet? Seen it mentioned by places like metro etc all linking back to the Daily Fail. If it was in all real, surely the bidders would have spoken now as the NDAs would be worthless?
Yep. It’s going to be a bumpy ride for sure!
I strongly agree with what Gary Neville say about Glazers. If you look into the financial report, the club needs cash to operate and further investment to maintain the competitive level with their epl rivals. Major investment needs to be secured even if full sale is not an option.
if the glazers do nothing at all, I seriously doubt their ability to run any business properly.
if the glazers do nothing at all, I seriously doubt their ability to run any business properly.
It's from the Sun for now so don't believe it.
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The loan deals for players rather than outright purchase was to stay with in FFP. Fact. We have still spent heavily this window.
So basically Raine and those close to the process who actually do have a clue about what's going on have no idea about this new news. Daily Mail click bait? Who'd have thought it
They aren't business people, they're idiots
Lots of people on this forum fell for it. You’d think they’d at least verify the source before losing their shit but nope.
So back here in 2025
Again, I don't think you'll find I said that the glazers not selling was great news. Can you quote me?
It's not like it's only states that could afford us. We all know there's not a chance we go for 10bn, state funded or not.
Did anyone expect anything different? They just dropped £200m over the summer to fund transfers. They weren’t leaving. CNUTS!
last week we were told senior execs warned the glazers not to keep shares at the club due to fanbacklash. The media would be screwed without this club to write about
They dropped nothing. The club spent its own money/ extended credit. It in no way affected their asking price. Whoever buys the club gets the debt and repercussions.
Why do people think these are competent business people? Their father made their money. They inherited everything. Nobody should trust their judgement or ability to think rationally. They're the ones that really put our club into the state it is. This downward spiral hadn't happened while their dad was still in charge.
I think we will never get rid of them. They will not put any money into this club and continue to bleed the club dry as per usual. They are so greedy that they will not sell and try to hike up the price some more even if they do receive offers (as we have clearly seen with this process). The protests against them have been useless - they barely even know about it in their mansions in the US.
In the meantime, we will continue to struggle to get players in and baulk at even fairly low fees. Even if someone eventually does buy us, it will take a lot of investment and many years to dig us out of the pit these leeches will bury us in. It's a sad state of affairs, but it is reality.
In the meantime, we will continue to struggle to get players in and baulk at even fairly low fees. Even if someone eventually does buy us, it will take a lot of investment and many years to dig us out of the pit these leeches will bury us in. It's a sad state of affairs, but it is reality.
They dropped feck all, never have done
When you read the report the delay comes across as logical.
Expansion of the FIFA World Club Cup, (Glazers are assuming United will qualify), which would result in greater TV revenue, and (possibly) a bigger fan base, the figure of £10bn in 2025 is meant to reflect that.
Do these figures really matter to a buyer who has money overflowing from a bottomless, after all why would a very rich man want to buy United in the first place.
The last transfer window has shown that the Saudi's are prepared to pay anything for what they see as a toy.
Expansion of the FIFA World Club Cup, (Glazers are assuming United will qualify), which would result in greater TV revenue, and (possibly) a bigger fan base, the figure of £10bn in 2025 is meant to reflect that.
Do these figures really matter to a buyer who has money overflowing from a bottomless, after all why would a very rich man want to buy United in the first place.
The last transfer window has shown that the Saudi's are prepared to pay anything for what they see as a toy.
They have proven their incompetence in previous business's, their shopping mall real estate business in the states collapsed even before online shopping took it's toll. They own the Tampa Bay team, reports vary on how well they are doing financially and on the pitch.
Yes Malcolm made the money, without using a lot of his own, he bought up places in much the same way as he bought United.
Games going ahead at all will be in doubt if they don't feck off after all this. It will be that Liverpool game over and over again until we are ordered to play behind closed doors.
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