I wonder if crowds will be brought back gradually.
For example, after a while (I've fully made peace with the rest of this season is BCD) start with one person (or family) every 6 or so seats then slowly build from there.
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For example, after a while (I've fully made peace with the rest of this season is BCD) start with one person (or family) every 6 or so seats then slowly build from there.
It's possible but I personally don't think it's meaningful. The point of social distancing is to avoid gathering and keep people apart.
In your suggestion, although seats are left empty between fans during the game, it's unavoidable that they would be crowded before and after the game. It's impossible to keep them apart when they enter or leave the stadium, or when they travel to the stadium on the tube. 10% of Old Trafford attendance is still 7000+, so there's actually no much different between a full crowd or a diminished crowd.
Cyprus is considering an interesting rule change when the championship reopens there: to allow 5 substitutions per game (2 in the first half, 3 in the second).
I think it's a brilliant idea - players will be out of form and injury-prone, this way teams can protect players better (esp. if there are more games) and also give more playing time to more players, letting everybody catch-up quicker.
Honestly, if they try to pack too many games in short period of time, I'd even consider 7 subs per game. In addition to protecting the players, I think it will actually be interesting to watch how this alters tactics. Who knows - maybe we like it enough to keep the rule, even next season.
P.S. obviously it will give some advantage to teams like City since they have a lot of capable subs, but - oh well.
I think it's a brilliant idea - players will be out of form and injury-prone, this way teams can protect players better (esp. if there are more games) and also give more playing time to more players, letting everybody catch-up quicker.
Honestly, if they try to pack too many games in short period of time, I'd even consider 7 subs per game. In addition to protecting the players, I think it will actually be interesting to watch how this alters tactics. Who knows - maybe we like it enough to keep the rule, even next season.
P.S. obviously it will give some advantage to teams like City since they have a lot of capable subs, but - oh well.
7 subs per game!
there is nothing wrong with thinking creatively and flexibly so that we can get out of this crisis. However, I think changing the number of subs 3/4 through the season would make a mockery of the games that are left, and just turn them into pre season games or international friendlies - it would render games pointless and would be a very poor spectacle.
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I'm very likely playing dumb here, but what might this do that can be meaningful? Limit any risk of spread to one location keeping all players in North London for the period of their fixtures?
Yes, but if they are talking about 3 games per week, for 3-4 or more weeks, with out of form players - something extraordinary seems necessary
It could be based on linear thinking of NHS resources. e.g. 15 nhs staff at one time point. rather than 15 * x games at the say time point. assuming the same 15 continue for multiple matches.
If so, they forget lag is time, location issues, measure of match time is largely equal, not forgetting increased costs etc etc.
Makes the game feel even more soulless with a much bigger empty stadium?
As far as I can see the only meaningful thing it would achieve would be to provide income to the FA.
Using Wembley to host four games per day sounds silly. The pitch would be destroyed. Also don't see how using St Georges to hold all PL clubs to avoid traveling helps matters? It just causes a huge amount of people to be in one place.
London is the most affected area in the UK too.
Germany plans things out. We just wait for the inevitable to happen then panic.
No fans = soulless football.
Don't necessarily disagree with any of that, but each solution that they're gonna propose to finish the season will have obvious downsides. There won't be any scenario where everyone goes "ah yeah, that's a good idea and seems reasonable" because it would've been suggested long ago otherwise if it existed imo.
I think we will see restrictions lifted by mid May, then soccer behind closed doors for a few weeks in a mad rush to end the season.
I think everyone realises for this to work it will have to be world cup style.
For that every team has their own base and hotel so isolated from general public (well that's what England always try to do). 7 games in four weeks plus a friendly or two just before the tournament starts so fits in with same timeline for the summer given most teams have 9 games left to play (think the FA cup will be scrapped for this season).
I assume St Georges Park has a few hotels on site given the money they spent so can see that being an option for us, Wolves and Sheffield United. That is three fixtures that still have to be played.
It's not ideal. I'd still prefer to play the BCD games on the home grounds just to get some sort of semi normality feel back.
Seems they're banking on middle of May restart date for training. Another lockdown is near certainty but that will elapse by that date.
It's likely to be for half of next season aswell if that starts on time.
It wouldn't be fair to make City play behind close doors (if they weren't already banned that is).
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I really hope they don't play competitive matches until at least a decent number of fans can attend.
I don't think I've ever actually watched a BCD match. Seems like it would be quite weird.
Didn't you see United's last game?
It is, you have to remind yourself it's not a training match.
Since they ruined the lower league cup by letting premier teams have their u21s in it most fans boycot it. Meaning most games in it are along the lines of bcd. They look utterly dreadful and almost testimonial or friendly material.
A long period of this sort of football is close to a waste of time for anything but tidying up the loose ends. Itd be one thing finishing up a season like that, but to purposely start a season on that premise seems pointless.
How do most of the clubs deal with getting no gate income? Outside the premier league that is still a huge amount of their income.
Nope, I did not
they don’t.
At the moment they're getting payments that they were due in the future. So they can cope if this is a few months thing.
But if there's no 2020/21 or worse still the BCD thing, then it'll take huge FA bailouts.
If there's a choice between BCD football and no football for an absurd amount of time, then taking the first option is the only sensible course of action.
Nah man, the doom and gloom seemingly only applies to United.
No way!
https://www.football-italia.net/152094/report-serie-end-august
Looks like league may end in August. Serie A are definitely looking to push the schedule of returning to training on May 4th (Italy government extended restrictions until May 3rd so assumption is that training can resume after that), with the season resuming on May 30th.
Brescia have stated they will not play any more games. It probably won't much difference given they will get relegated, but I wonder if any other teams will follow that pattern, or if Brescia will even follow through on it. If they do, I'm guessing each of their opponents will get a 3-0 win against them.
Looks like league may end in August. Serie A are definitely looking to push the schedule of returning to training on May 4th (Italy government extended restrictions until May 3rd so assumption is that training can resume after that), with the season resuming on May 30th.
Brescia have stated they will not play any more games. It probably won't much difference given they will get relegated, but I wonder if any other teams will follow that pattern, or if Brescia will even follow through on it. If they do, I'm guessing each of their opponents will get a 3-0 win against them.
BCD still means half the stadium will be filled with other cnuts. It'll be like a giant bowl of bat soup fs.
At least the Scousers would get to play at Wembley.
Yeah, I mean if it’s bcd. I’m assuming there must be about 400 games across all leagues at efl level?
I doubt they could provide enough cash? I would guess to get anywhere near You would be talking about 100k to 200k per game?
Might arguably make more sense not to play at efl level. It would cost more to put games on at that level than just giving clubs the cash to stay alive.
That's probably a bit high even as an average.
Sunderland might be way more but most league one and two clubs way less.
Accrington get gates of about 1500. Even if that was £20 each that's only 30k
I didnt look at the bottom attendances. Accrington stanley get about 3000 average.
total attendance across the 3 leagues last year was about 16 million. So I am guessing we are talking 4m missing on attendance at an average of 20 quid a ticket.
Just read a bit on Germany. Seems they're already testing the squads back in training every 2-3 days. Talk some players are donating their blood to University research groups for wider social pay off.
240 people in total for BCD games, starting on May 9th. Problem is lack of contact training so some clubs pushing for later date for restart.
240 people in total for BCD games, starting on May 9th. Problem is lack of contact training so some clubs pushing for later date for restart.