Thank you. At last, some much needed common sense.
Could they void the PL due to the Coronavirus? | No | Resuming June 17th
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Thank you. At last, some much needed common sense.
It's embarrassing small time behavior! The desperation to stop Liverpool knows no bounds!
I have been dreading the day Liverpool win the league (I have some unbearable LFC supporting mates plus not so great experiences as an away fan there) but I can't think of anyway that they don't deserve to be crowned champions. If the points advantage were single figures or even upto 15 I would be inclined to say it they probably shouldn't get it but 25 is too much, I'd be incandescent if Chelsea got denied a title in similar circumstances. They are the equivalent of 6-0 up in a CL final with five minutes to go, in those circumstances a team would almost certainly be given the trophy if it was abandoned at that point.
Top 4 is different because it's so close, had this been 2008 where the title race was close but the top 4 was a lockdown (unfortunate choice of words) I'd say we can't award the title but top 4 should be a shoe in.
Top 4 is different because it's so close, had this been 2008 where the title race was close but the top 4 was a lockdown (unfortunate choice of words) I'd say we can't award the title but top 4 should be a shoe in.
You're right that the people gathered in a mass crowd face a higher risk of contracting the virus but they are there of their own accord. People employed in the football industry have to be there because the job demands it. Fans make the choice to attend games, they are not demanded to be there, like the players are. So Rooney has a valid point.
Yeah, you obviously didn't have logic classes in school. Those two examples explain why Liverpool should not get a title. And both can be used against your argument.
If all clubs play all 38 games and you finished first then you are clear champion and nobody can't deny that. It is fully legit way.
When you mathematically secure first place, you are again champion but only in theory. It is hard to make it legit and award you that title because league is not finished (problem with other clubs who fight for CL, El, relegation etc...).
Awarding title to Liverpool now (despite huge lead) is only based on assumption. So if you get title i know that you Liverpool fans will not care about that but it will always be remembered as a gifted title. At least for other clubs fans.
No they wouldn't.
Swedish National Hockey League abandoned the season today. No winner. None coming up or dropping down.
Might be something for PL? No medal for Liverpool
Might be something for PL? No medal for Liverpool
Spurs without question
Spread out PL, CL and FA Cup from August till mid November, then European Cup from the holiday period until early February.
Then either call it quits until next August or do a blitz season without domestic cups or CL and everyone plays each other only once. Or 4 groups of 5 teams with two-legged semis and a final at Wembley - the opportunities are endless!
I like the idea not to have a 20/21 season though. Liverpool FC, Premier League Champions 2019-2021.
Then either call it quits until next August or do a blitz season without domestic cups or CL and everyone plays each other only once. Or 4 groups of 5 teams with two-legged semis and a final at Wembley - the opportunities are endless!
I like the idea not to have a 20/21 season though. Liverpool FC, Premier League Champions 2019-2021.
You seem worried. The possibility of Liverpool losing out on the title this year is a very real one and you're not coping well.
And you're wrong about the desperation part as many of us made our peace with Liverpool winning it months ago.
Look I’m inclined to agree that Liverpool are almost assuredly champions. For them to lose is mathematically possible but would require a nigh on miracle.
However the issue lies in that this is an entire league; and a sport at large. Yes Liverpool may be comfortably champions, but what about 3rd/4th place? What about 16/17/18? What about basically every other position on the Premier League table, what about the Championship, what about the national leagues and so on and so forth.
You simply can’t just end the season here. This is more than just about Liverpool. Nor can you just award them the title and deal with everyone else separately.
Things either have to be declared null and void in a worst case scenario or hopefully simply completed at a later date if possible which would be the preferred option.
There is no easy option, there is no right option. This is an incredibly complex social and economic issue and there will he holes in every single solution proposed.
However the issue lies in that this is an entire league; and a sport at large. Yes Liverpool may be comfortably champions, but what about 3rd/4th place? What about 16/17/18? What about basically every other position on the Premier League table, what about the Championship, what about the national leagues and so on and so forth.
You simply can’t just end the season here. This is more than just about Liverpool. Nor can you just award them the title and deal with everyone else separately.
Things either have to be declared null and void in a worst case scenario or hopefully simply completed at a later date if possible which would be the preferred option.
There is no easy option, there is no right option. This is an incredibly complex social and economic issue and there will he holes in every single solution proposed.
It's the Liverpool fans that seem desperate oddly enough.
Anyway, football is fecking meaningless right now.
Bloody hope so. Not having Mason’s season and us dicking on City three times being wiped.
All joking aside, it really is.
How about -
Liverpool = title (all jokes aside, this is clear)
City and Leicester = CL
Play-offs for final CL place = Chelsea vs Sheffield United, Man United vs Wolves both 2 legs, final at Wembley. Winner goes into CL, 3 losers go into EL.
Championship 1st, 2nd & 3rd vs PL 20th, 19th & 18th in one off games at Wembley to determine promotion relegation, so Leeds vs Norwich, West Brom vs Aston Villa & Fulham vs Bournemouth.
Liverpool = title (all jokes aside, this is clear)
City and Leicester = CL
Play-offs for final CL place = Chelsea vs Sheffield United, Man United vs Wolves both 2 legs, final at Wembley. Winner goes into CL, 3 losers go into EL.
Championship 1st, 2nd & 3rd vs PL 20th, 19th & 18th in one off games at Wembley to determine promotion relegation, so Leeds vs Norwich, West Brom vs Aston Villa & Fulham vs Bournemouth.
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Exactly. So it's pretty daft to complain about football being "unfair" when injured players come back from injury
You only get tested (up to now anyway) if you have 1) shown symptoms or 2) have come in direct contact with someone who has had the virus. Your MD likely would have fallen into the latter. The Athletic even reported it themselves that clubs couldn't get their own players tested unless they fell in one of those categories. You can't just jump the queue.
Self testing kits are on their way but they are first going to go to healthcare professionals who have bigger risk of getting the virus, and can screen their patients (GPs/Pharmacists/Dentists) before going out to everyone.
I was thinking about it but why should Spurs and Arsenal accept that? Or Villa and Bournemouth?
I think Villa and Bournemouth would accept one off games against weaker sides to preserve their PL status, rather than playing several superior sides, yes. Leeds and West Brom are getting fecked far worse in this scenario than Villa, Bournemouth and Norwich to be honest.
Arsenal and Spurs would be fuming, but they are where they are in the table for a reason, and I can't think of any other way that wouldn't massively disrupt next season.
Villa and Arsenal have even game in hand. Plus Chelsea has at this moment secured CL spot.
But yeah, there is no fair solution for everybody at this moment
I get the point but very unfair on Leeds who are pretty much there.
Fairer to have an expanded league next year with more relegation slots
Wiping everything (even player stats, if the season is void surely the stats to do with the season is also void)... that sounds so infinity war/end game like!
Need a gif of Spiderman with a Liverpool top saying "I don't feel so good" and disappearing away
Need a gif of Spiderman with a Liverpool top saying "I don't feel so good" and disappearing away
No you don’t.
also your crap analogy doesn’t even work - see the writers strike and the fact that series got cancelled, some shows didn’t complete the filming and released incomplete series, and then started afresh when the strike was over.
Wayne Rooney just commented on it on BBC and he's bang on in regards to the actions of the government and the footballing authorities with regards to the game.
Or being 3 Níl up with 11 minutes to play against a crap Palace team.
I thought it was very unsporting of everyone to count that as a draw in the end after Liverpool were clearly the better team and deserved the win.
Alright. I wish you all the best.
RAWK trashing on him saying he earns millions and should have retired 6 years ago if he has a problem
Such a bunch of deluded cnuts... the man is talking on behalf of all footballers FFS.
A friend of mines Uncle is a PL shareholder & he has said privatley there will be no more football in England this year.
Exactly. So it's pretty daft to complain about football being "unfair" when injured players come back from injury
You only get tested (up to now anyway) if you have 1) shown symptoms or 2) have come in direct contact with someone who has had the virus. Your MD likely would have fallen into the latter. The Athletic even reported it themselves that clubs couldn't get their own players tested unless they fell in one of those categories. You can't just jump the queue.
Self testing kits are on their way but they are first going to go to healthcare professionals who have bigger risk of getting the virus, and can screen their patients (GPs/Pharmacists/Dentists) before going out to everyone.
What are you on about, if we played them today they would be without Son and Kane, also a drumming for LP? Now we play them after 2 1/2 weeks extra training (if they are training) with injured players back. That is a unforeseen advantage, hell they could fly to Brazil for some warm weather training.
I just told you, people with money are getting tested privately - I've never seen a footballer for Utd or City sat in A&E in MRI on match day, they all have private doctors. Do you really think a 80 million pound investment would be calling 111?
Findings of loss in lung capacity following recovery could really mess up infected players' cardios in the short run. On the other hand some of these players already play full games despite doing a ton of lung damaging things in their free time. It's not the same as the average Joe losing breath after climbing a flight of stairs. Regardless Rooney is right, they too need to be protected. The risk is too big
Wiping everything (even player stats, if the season is void surely the stats to do with the season is also void)... that sounds so infinity war/end game like!
Need a gif of Spiderman with a Liverpool top saying "I don't feel so good" and disappearing away
of course individual stats remain, as do the games that have taken place. They have been played, and the records are kept.
just the competitions end without a winner, exception being Man City and the league Cup.
which for city fans, could be amusing in decades to come, in what year did city win the only trophy in England!
Suspending the PL will not happen. I;ve been listening to the radio, TV, reading news articles etc and almost all of them are talking about how this would be unfair of poor old pool. There will be far too much pressure on the FA (or whoever is in charge of the PL) from the media to suspend this season. The most likely scenario will be that the season will be allowed to be played out in the summer months, have a 2 week break then start the next season. Darling old liverpool will not be prevented from lifting the PL trophy.
Is there a link available? I can't find anything on google about it
games get rearranged all the time.
such a poor argument you have here. In theory if the Utd/ spurs match was played in 8 weeks time, then Utd would have Pogba and Rashford back as well - both currently injured.
You void the season and then have next season without any European football. You lower the risk of the virus being spread by keeping it domestic for a season and you take out the whole qualifies for the champions league’
City is CL banned though.
That is not the issue here. The issue is the safety of footballers, fans, and the general population!
Liverpool's fecking "title" should be last on the agenda.
play the rest of the season In the summer, and then clubs have completely different teams. Utd for example have Matic and Oghalo out of contract, and might sign Sancho, Kane - And god knows who else. It doesn’t add up playing the season so late.
what about clubs in the lower leagues whocan’t tie players to long contracts and routinely have 10-12 first team squad players out of contract each summer. How does that work?
you cant just extend players contracts unilaterally for 3/4/5/6 months there will be lawsuits galore.
It’s a massive hit to clubs who rely on European money, but might just the most sensible and fairest thing to do.
Hate to break it to you, but yes, pandemics do cause huge problems. The season does not have to be resumed, especially not irregardless of how long it takes. What sort of bizarre logic is that?
Regarding your box set analogy, so I really need to explain to you why that isn't the same thing at all?
Football in this country doesn't revolve around Liverpool, as much their fans seem to struggle with that, and a bizarre amount on here seem to as well, the end result will be what's best for the majority and not just them.