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Mason Mount been caught playing 5 a side with other footballers when he should be in isolation because he’s part of the Chelsea squad. Twat.
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Pool's executive I guess?
It could be Ed, pushing for the possibility of Champions League.Tweet
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Pool's executive I guess?
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I agree there needs to be a contingency in place - especially since the virus is very likely to return in the near future - so long as it's created based on the players' health, rather than what's 'fair' in terms of who qualifies for what, then it's all good. The players' well-being must take precedence above all else, no exceptions.If the rationale applies that it's not fair to freeze the season as the final standings at this stage, then it's based on the premise that the team didn't sign up to play 30 rather than 38 league games before the competition started. Changing the format of next season allows all teams to sign up in full knowledge of the format before it begins.
Irrespective of what happens with this season, the next campaign may need to be shortened regardless. Whether that's down to complete this season, the pandemic delaying the start of next season, or the virus surging back in the winter, we will need to think about changing the format to put in some contingency.
It might be a violation of personal freedom or existing laws, but special laws need to be put out by courts to stop people in quarantine from roaming around spreading the virus to vulnerable people.Tweet
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Quite enjoyed that, hopefully Sky Sports launch an M1 channel
inspiring stuff. Reminds me of 99
I think it would feel more just because you could state from the start of the season that you are following a particular set of regulations rather than scrapping one with 10 matches left.This whole shortening of next season to complete the current one doesn't sit right with me.
Why is this season more of a priority than the following one or any others thereafter?
All very sensible and what most people with the actual interest of the game are arguing. Only the a handful of clubs for selfish interests would not agree. The only part I disagree with is the no EL/CL. That is too much of a money spinner for the top clubs and UEFA. A much more likely scenario is that we start it again next season with the same groups as this. I reckon this will happen as a number of teams that are in it still, Napoli, Atleti, Lyon, Rangers, Wolves and Wolfsburg can argue that cancelling it this year would be unfair on them as they have got this far and they may not re-qualify next year if the leagues are frozen as is because we cannot go past June because of contracts/fitness etc.If you break it down into chunks it’s easier to see that finishing the season is the worst option there is.
1. will games resume in April? Extremely unlikely. It’s going to be a number of months as a minimum where you can’t play football.
2. if it goes past 30 June, players contracts expire. This again, is where you need to look past Liverpool. League 1 and league 2 teams can’t afford to offer players 3-5 year contracts, and routinely will have 10-12 players out of contract at the end of the season, along with 4-5 loan players. It’s completely impractical for them to play the remainder of the matches in July, August and beyond.
3. You therefore have to have a transfer window, and this will need to apply to all clubs.
4. if you restarted the league in July/ August. Utd. Could have signed Kane, Sancho etc. Makes a mockery of the competition. Multiply that by every club.
5. You would then need another transfer window between seasons. Look at a team like Aston Villa for example, they will male vastly different transfer decisions based on whether they get relegated or stay up. You can’t just roll one season into the next.
6. players need a break. A proper break, self isolation is not a break.
7. of therefore the season can’t be finished by the end of June (or if you could finish it in July, you cajole get round some of these issues), then it needs to finish. It won’t restart, it will be abandoned.
8. you then have a transfer window, hopefully with a proposed start date dependent on the virus for the start of the new season.
9. the CL and Europa league will be scrapped next season. Pre qualifying was proposed to start in August which clearly won’t happen. You wouldn’t be able to work out who qualifies in any case. Would spurs and arsenal qualify because of their league standing in 19/20! That would be a joke.
10. 20/21 will likely start later on any case so no champions league or Europe league games will ease the fixture congestion. Much better than scrapping domestic cup competitions. Football is much more than the top clubs.
11. Upshot is. 19/20 will be abandoned. No winners, no promotion, no relegation. 20/21 starts with the same teams in each league as 19/20 at some point later this calendar year and no european competition on 20/21. Will resume the season after.
This was actually very entertaining
Is marble racing the new horse racing?This was actually very entertaining
Makes sense, even if it fecks up future seasons. We can deal with that when it comes. Now the priority should be to finish the season.Tweet
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More relevant at the moment is the question of whether and to what degree not voiding the 1918-1919 season during the crucial early months of the Spanish Influenza outbreak of 1918 (which eventually went on to claim multiple millions of lives, globally) contributed the rapid, wide spread of the disease. How many lives might the urge to get football up and running after WWI in order to foster the feeling that life was 'back to normal' have cost?People trying to use the cancellation of football because of the outbreak of world war as some kind of precedent has to be the most idiotic comparison to date.
Season 1914-15 was completed.
Season 1939-40 was cancelled after 3 games.
I think they will bring it back to actually aid further isolation.Strangely optimistic about football coming back soonish for some reason.
Yes, we're looking at a scenario where the Scottish Premiership has secured an extra CL spot for next year, which could be worth around 50% of their revenue for the season, based on such impressive showings in the current year. Writing off the progress made in the coefficients could be the subject of a legal challenge given the loss of income on the table.All very sensible and what most people with the actual interest of the game are arguing. Only the a handful of clubs for selfish interests would not agree. The only part I disagree with is the no EL/CL. That is too much of a money spinner for the top clubs and UEFA. A much more likely scenario is that we start it again next season with the same groups as this. I reckon this will happen as a number of teams that are in it still, Napoli, Atleti, Lyon, Rangers, Wolves and Wolfsburg can argue that cancelling it this year would be unfair on them as they have got this far and they may not re-qualify next year if the leagues are frozen as is because we cannot go past June because of contracts/fitness etc.
It was oddly pleasingThis was actually very entertaining
That is true but the important issue is not should football be played now or whilst even a small risk still exists (the answer is obviously no) but when it is safe to resume should this season be completed before another begins.More relevant at the moment is the question of whether and to what degree not voiding the 1918-1919 season during the crucial early months of the Spanish Influenza outbreak of 1918 (which eventually went on to claim multiple millions of lives, globally) contributed the rapid, wide spread of the disease. How many lives might the urge to get football up and running after WWI in order to foster the feeling that life was 'back to normal' have cost?
Really? Isn't Bruno the new Cantona?Dunno what you dippers are worried about you will probably walk it again next season
I watched Sunday Supplement yesterday (that's what it's came to ha) and it was utterly embarrassing how they wouldn't say anything bad about Liverpool.Oh goodness me, that cnut of a girl sitting as guest on skysports news right now just called the vice chairman of West Ham United "Self Service" and "Self centered" for calling the season null and void. She is adamant that season must be completed, must be completed blah blah blah .........
But when Skysports presenter asked the question what about players being isolation, they will not be conditioned, trained, fit enough, no pre-season games... that girl had no answer and was just coming up with utter crap.
They’re part of the Scouse Media Mafia - our tentacles reach deep into all parts of the game.I watched Sunday Supplement yesterday (that's what it's came to ha) and it was utterly embarrassing how they wouldn't say anything bad about Liverpool.
We'll just be reaching the peak number of infections in mid/late June and the entire country will be in complete lockdown, so there definitely won't be any football taking place.I think this season will play out, personally. Between the pressure from the broadcasters and the potential ramifications for clubs if they void the season, i'm pretty certain they'll play it out in May/June or something. Be very surprised if they completely cancel it.
I'm sure you're aware of the fact that it's only Liverpool fans and ex-players who care about the current season getting completed.That is true but the important issue is not should football be played now or whilst even a small risk still exists (the answer is no) but when it is safe to resume should this season be completed before another begins.
I don't think that's the important issue. The important issue revolves around how necessary is it to carry around a 'cryogenically frozen' incomplete season to reanimate at some point, and for how long that could be done, given that that point will in any case forever be seen as occurring in the aftermath of a worldwide health crisis. The 2019-20 season is now going to carry a taint by association; if it was to be brought back to life several months or a year on from now, it wouldn't be quite the same as deciding to delay the start of a cup final after a number of attending fans have been crushed to death in the lead-up to the kick-off, rather than rightly cancelling the match out of simple respect (I'm looking at you, 1985 European Cup Final), but the dilemma involved is broadly similar: you're being asked to ethically measure relative importance. Sometimes football is required to show that it knows its place in the grander scheme. Voiding and starting over would be one of the best ways.That is true but the important issue is not should football be played now or whilst even a small risk still exists (the answer is obviously no) but when it is safe to resume should this season be completed before another begins.
How can they give the title before they have officially won it outright?They should give Liverpool the title now so that we can all focus on the virus and then when that’s hopefully sorted we can see what’s the best solution. To void the season with Liverpool the only club in Europe with a domestic title or to finish the leagues and cups.
But give Liverpool the title cause that is the most important thing at the moment. Like Dalglish said, it would be out of orded to neglect Liverpool just because there’s a virus that’s deadly for a lot of people across the world.
How can they give the title before they have officially won it outright?