I wasn't talking about any Madrid fans and I don't think you're ungrateful at all. It's just that these things at Madrid don't work like they do everywhere else. Just found it funny how similar those threads were.
Personally i think the Galacticidio, Raul and Iker are still too fresh in our minds. We went 30 years without winning the EC, then most recently 6 years going out in the R16. Now we're constantly thinking of the future because we're afraid of that happening again.
Plus, with Cristiano there was always a bit of a strange connection, because he's always been as big or bigger than the club, globally, in terms of image. So it was hard to identify him with the club, the way Raul or Iker did. That's why you have two kind of madridistas in regards to Cristiano: those like Roncero who latched onto Cristiano's global image as a mean to further aggrandize Madrid(and those people are fanatical over Cristiano. Worse than you or
@Cal? ) and those -like me, i think
@carvajal and
@Vato too- who always appreciated him as a footballer, loved what he did for the club, but were never able to fully identify him with the club. Hence, we probably never loved him the way we loved Raul or Iker or El Buitre, and possibly even Zidane or Redondo(the last two names apply to me personally, dunno about the madridismo at large
)
And then of course there's the morons, but every large group of people has those