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Cristiano Ronaldo
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He doesn't need to know, nor do you. I don't want to take the bait for another useless discussion.
except we dont have him
I see you're using the royal "we" for Sepp Blatter.
Can't believe people take an individual award this seriously. I liked it better when it was nondescript and in the convention hall of some Swiss hotel. What an absolute parody of itself it's become.
I wonder how long it will be before we see another player as exciting as Ronaldo or Messi with the same if not better output? Neymar could arguably put up big numbers but he'll never be as good as those two. United scouts better be looking!
With Messi I wouldn't be surprised if there was never another comparable. I am surprised there aren't more like Cristiano Ronaldo though, considering how far he's come through hard work.
Bale is probably the closest thing to him at the moment and achieved through hard work. I wonder if he was the star man how many goals he could get.
Never said he didn't deserve it - nor that I don't enjoy watching him play football... both of these things are totally independent to thinking that he can be a bit self-obsessed / arrogant at times, but then a lot of great players aren't? He was obviously incredibly happy with himself to win it, and why shouldn't he be aye... but you know, he could be a little less obsessed with winning it, but meh, who cares.
The bit in bold makes me laugh though - it's a cliche that's rolled out everytime, but really... its complete nonsense. Do you have intimate knowledge of every footballer in the world? Never mind every athlete!? I mean, there will be footballers who work just as hard as Ronnie, and me, your, or anyone else won't have a clue because it's impossible to know about everyone....and that's just in football, in terms of athletes in generally? Well you catch my drift.
Are you Taylor Swift?
Ronaldo does that all the time as well though. They both do, because they both know how much money they make for their clubs. Ronaldo has done it countless times with "I love Manchester...who knows where I'll go" bullshit, United fans and the press lap it up every time. It's pretty much become his catchphrase! They both love to play politics and get what they want. I don't blame either for it though as football is a relatively short career so might as well make the most of your marketability whilst you can.
Ronaldo comes across as a massive tit though at times, just so smug about himself it's painful to watch at times.
It's so fitting. You know that the Real Madrid circus world resembles 'Pierce & Pierce' behind closed doors.
Hopefully we'll see a United player back in contention for this award within the next 5 years. Seeing our own fans celebrating a Real Madrid player winning it is just too pathetic.
I kind of want to dislike him more than I do. Was watching that documentary last night and had very mixed emotions. They kept cutting from slo mo clips of him celebrating goals for United (warm, fuzzy feelings) to similar clips in a Madrid shirt (profound irritation).
Ultimately, you've got to have massive respect for him as a footballer. Which should outweigh all the metrosexual stylings and obsession with individual glory in the context of a team sport. Plus the very little you learn about him as a person is generally positive.
I end up having to dig quite deep in my bottomless well of bitterness to feel annoyed about how he whined his way out of United and is playing for one of the clubs I most despise. Luckily, that well of bitterness is - as I said - bottomless.
Ultimately, you've got to have massive respect for him as a footballer. Which should outweigh all the metrosexual stylings and obsession with individual glory in the context of a team sport. Plus the very little you learn about him as a person is generally positive.
I end up having to dig quite deep in my bottomless well of bitterness to feel annoyed about how he whined his way out of United and is playing for one of the clubs I most despise. Luckily, that well of bitterness is - as I said - bottomless.
Haters gon' hate...this thread has taken a very 2007 turn.
It's nice, talking about feelings and all, but you summed it up better with this...
He's managed to become the best player in the world without being the most naturally talented. Unbelievable work ethic.
Makes you wish you spent 100% of your life playing football as a kid.
Makes you wish you spent 100% of your life playing football as a kid.
Always thought the negativity to him was a bit bizarre, although a great way to get noticed on forums.
Be careful, you'll be susceptible to The Bends coming back up from that depth.
Not as bizarre as the idea that people would create artificial opinions to get noticed on forums. Really?
I find is obsessive fans far more annoying that the player himself
His popularity with some Utd fans appears to have grown since his departure. Its crackers
My point was that negativity and cynicism is an easy way to get noticed on the net, and the CAF is no different. The web is full of anonymous trolls who are generally negative because they feel they can get away with it by hiding behind the anonymity of a profile. The silliness regarding Ronaldo is just an extension of that. That's not to say there are some comparably silly views by his muppet fanboys.
I find it a bit annoying as well. Both sides are just annoying because they play off of one another's views and lower the standard of debate.
I had a laugh at that part too
Messi came out at the Gala saying that Ronaldo is one of the greatest players in the sports history and that he deserves all the recognition he gets. What a cnut that little argie is huh
They're just two different subjective opinions though, aren't they?
I don't think either are reacting to one another's views as you say - rather, they're just reacting to Ronaldo himself.
Both facets are true, Ronaldo is statistically very impressive, he's also a less gifted player than Messi, he also works very hard on his game, he's also arrogant and selfish as a player. He did very well at Man Utd for a couple of seasons, he also quite tastelessly manoeuvred a move away to an (at the time) inferior team.
It's up to the hardwiring of the individual which of these truths they lean toward, but neither is wrong or right.
They're definitely reacting to one another's opinions. If there weren't as many "Ronaldo haterz" there wouldn't be as many people defending him. Conversely, if there weren't as many fanboyz, there wouldn't be people in fabricating things to criticize him with.
If it's his fault maybe we should just get rid of him?
Fair enough. Trolls gonna troll. Surely you can understand why a footballer like Ronaldo will divide opinion, though? No matter which club you support any footballer who is so wrapped up in personal glory is going to attract some critics. As far as some United fans are concerned, it's also irritating to see a protege of the club spend his best years somewhere else, having basically forced his way out of the club. It's very unusual and bound to cause some resentment. Add to the mix the ongoing fervour with which a different minority of United fans still worship him and you've got the perfect story for a footballer who will raise the hackles of fans at the club he once played for.
Congratulations to him.
Been watching football a long time and never seen a fanbase gush like a starry eyed obsessed ex every week like some of the United fans do with Ronaldo
So true.
I remember a comment about Ronaldo 'scoring for us' at Anfield.... for Madrid.
Perhaps it's because he's improved as a player. We'll always have an affiliation with Ronaldo, for most of us he's the best player we've seen play for Manchester United. He's a legend, and someone I'll always admire. Not sure why that's an issue.
Just to fan the flames. I agree with Stoichkov, had it not been for his rivals injuries/off the field troubles and his club in turmoil, Ronaldo would probably be trailing 6-1 right now.
God, haha!
What about: Had Guardiola been tired of Barcelona already after one year instead of four years and thus Barca would have been in decline much earlier, Messi would be trailing 6-1?
Fact is that it is as it is, everything else is pure speculation.
I mean, this is like saying had it not been for Ronaldo's hat-trick versus Sweden and two Champions League final goals, Messi would probably be leading 6-1 right now.
Is that a moral 6-1?
That was easy
some of you remind me of this guy
some of you remind me of this guy
It doesn't matter who won because Messi will be remembered as a better player.
I don't like it when people say Messi is natural and Ronaldo produced. As if that makes is achievements less impressive, it's quite the opposite. Besides, where would Messi be without the growth hormones that he needed? To me, that is producing too.
Did Gerrard win the Alternative one?
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