Striker10
"Ronaldo and trophies > Manchester United football
- Joined
- Sep 21, 2004
- Messages
- 18,857
I'll take your points one by one. Lucky meWith all due respect that doesn't fly. Phizza asked to move. In a bid to go to a place that would get him a world cup ticket in the England team. IIRC. Thus you really can't compare his situation to Gibson's in any shape or form.
Well your assumptions are baseless. To put it mildly.
He will get games. The season is long. Besides Hargreaves return will make it easier for him to get games. For a fit Hargreaves will mean more rotation in a midfield in which the only untouchable is Fletcher ATM.
Rather I'm sorry to disappoint you. You've never been Fletcher or O'shea. The two players I was referring to as former scape goat an the favorite easy targets of the cafe until recently.
No one is saying his irreplaceable. We are just saying talk of those seemingly more natural talents in the reserves suddenly forcing him out in the near future is silly. Just like talk that he isn't good enough when SAF is clearly saying other wise. The same stuff was said about Fletcher. Yet Gibson is a more consistent player than Fletcher was at his age.
People forget that Reserve level for a midfielder is not even close to EPL level. The likes of Petrucci, James, Eikrem have some way to go before the even get to Gibson's current level, in the first team squad. Just remember Possebon. Who looked truly special at times in the reserves. Yet he is finding it tricky to step up from that level, just like Gibson initially did. Yet I have no doubt he has more talent than even Gibson.
Bottom line Young midfielders have to learn loads of things before they are ready for first team action proper at senior level. They also mature later than most other positions unless they are uber special ala a Fabregas. Anyone really expecting so much more from Gibson at his current age with the type of competition he faces to get first team football, is simply not realistic.
1) I can twist that point just as well as you. Say in a year Gibson wants regular football. What are you going to do? Listen, he has to be playing and we're nearly in Janurary. Do you think he has the managers trust to play in any game aside from the fa cup and dead rubber games after jan?
2) My assumptions are about as without foundation as you telling me he'll play plenty of games...I do believe. Before you take the micky, you might want to think about what your writing as you'll end up sounding silly.
3) how will the return of hargreaves make it easy for him to get games? Regardless, your making an assumption once more he'll 1) get fit 2) play a number of games and 3) stay fit.
4) Fletchers merited games but that's because of what he does on the pitch. As for O'shea he's loyal and a good defender, but he don't block enough crosses for me. That said he's scored important goals down the years.
5) Everyone knows what Sir Alex says......it's called management. You have to keep a happy ship. Somehow.
6) Gibsons more consistant then fletcher was? Atleast Fletcher was playing. Even last season Gibson was a fringe player. When Fletcher was 22, he played a lot of games on the wing which effected his performance level.
7) Gibson has a year or two if he wants to be a first teamer because of the development of others (my opinion). We don't owe anyone a career. That said It's up to him isn't it? No one lives for the past, Gibsons got a big chance tonight. He has to take it and if he takes it? Who'll be crying? no one...
8) Possebon played well within himself, but it's clear the injury was a big moment in his development. He's still 2 years younger then Gibson though.
9) Yes Gibson has more experience in that he's played a few more cup games and went on loan. Now he must produce and his levels will be looked at. Why? Because not everyone improves and right now he is not good enough to play week in week out which is what he should want.
10) age has nothing to do with anything. If he don't have it in him to be better, then that's his problem. Did Anderson worry? No...Did rafael? no...Gibsons big enough, he needs to prove himself.
11) This is in terms of being a first teamer, NOT a squad player. The problem I have with Gibson is while Fletcher has a great engine, sometimes you wonder if Gibson even has one.